Aurelius

As far as explanations go, you will have to determine once you have read all the epilogues if you consider them sufficient or not. The same goes for anybody else taking an interest of course. What the 'general gaming population' thinks is anybody's guess. Bear in mind though, they may not necessarily agree with you. Or with me, for that matter.

Sure. Just to clarify: I consider that "the general gaming population" are the neutral ones. Probably each character has about 20% fans, 20% haters and 60% of the gamers don't feel very strongly about the cahracter either way(very simplified and generalized percentages). I for one don't love Edwin but I don't hate him either. This I believe makes my part of the 60%, thus part of the "general gaming population".

Oh, and regarding one of your previous comments that I only just noticed, I really hope you weren't calling me 'illogical' because I happen to want to do things my way, and see things differently than you do. I would have to regard that as an insult, you see. I believe that by now I have made my opinions perfectly clear regarding Elminster for anybody who reads this thread from beginning to end, and I have no particular desire of having to repeat myself.

It bears repeating: It is the author's prerogative to write whatever he or she pleases, and do accept or reject criticism. In this case I have said more than once that I will do as I please with Elminster, and I will not repeat myself one more time.

I didn't say you were illogical. I only stated that logic no longer played a part in the debate, since you had already decided what to do and any argument, however structured, will not change your mind. The whole thing would have degenerated into " I want to do it!" "You mustn't do it!" type of arguments. I really don't get it why you want to trash elm so much, but I only have one suggestion: if you refuse to accept any arguments pointing to the fact that edwin defeating elminster is a bit exaggerated, why not lock the topic? it would spare us all a lot of trouble and you would not have to waste time replying to posts.

It's the same old problem. If you want to make this mod only for edwin lovers, great. if you aim it at the general gaming population you should have a good explanation as to how was edwin able to defeat elminster.

That's all. Over and out

Lol, I don't know who gave you that information, but I don't think he/she is right. During the Avatar trilogy Midninght is Kelemvor's garl. And she didn't need Elminster to become a godess, Ao himself appears and elevates both her and Cyric to the rank of deity. I think people got confused by the fact that there are actually two Mystra. The current one is NG, and believes magic should be use to do good and protect, the old one was LN (and Helm's lover btw) and believed that magic should be used by anybody for any purpose.

As to Edwin, I definetly see Midnight/Mystra taking his magic away. It would be perfectly in accordance to her beliefs on the use of magic. While evil spellcasters are accepted, they are not allowed to get out of hand.

Elminster was the long time lover of Mystra, who gifted him those horribly inflated stats....In medical terms, elephantiasys

WHICH Mystra? The LN one, that was killed by Helm during the Time of Troubles? Or the NG one, that was known as Midnight before ascending and taking over Mystra's portfolio and name? I doubt he was Midnight's lover, since by that time he was already one of the Chosen.

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P.S I must confess my only literary view of Elminster comes from the 'Avatar" series, but for the life of me I don't remember Midnight having sex with El. Is there some other book that says differently?

Erm, ya, there is.

Which one? Does this happen before or after Midnight's ascension? (I know, I have a dirty little mind, but I"m curious )