So far Bane has made a comeback, and Myrkul has enough essence stored up somewhere other than an astral plane repository . I don't see why Bhaal couldn't have misled Melissan to trick her into letting her be possessed by him (and her spirit "eternally" tormented and trapped in her body) by trying to take over his essence. Think about it, if you are pumped with enough water, you essentially become water / explode. And water isn't even Sentient.
Much as a I hate Solar, bringing Helm into it will be far worse. The way I see it is this
- you can't kill Melissan cuz she is maybe, 80% God (ie 80% Bhaal) at the time you fight her
- Gods can only be killed by other Gods
- Solar is just a pretty fucked up way of ending something that we muscled into on the first place. Helm would just add a deeper dimension of "yo, godling, you suck so I'm here as the big daddy to clean up this shit"
Why we cannot kill Melissan is because she always makes a stupid move with her weapon to knock us all off and jump into the essences, which is pretty lame, she cannot even contain the essences within properly so she is %80 god and with time the percentage decreases.
Bhaal will not retain his full power when we are battling, and <CHARNAME> is almost godlike anyway, that is the only explanation of lesser the bhaalspawn the more powerful the remaining ones become. Bhaal will be powerful, but <CHARNAME> is also powerful.
I did not think of Helm in that manner, Helm will just show up 2 times. 1. He will explain Melissan's intentions (just explain, otherwise if You did not finish the game before it would be totally meaningless surprise to see Melissan there). And after we actually kill Bhaal, where he will just ask us what to do. he will not have any power over the situation, so he will not be the big daddy.
That said, I'm probably one of the laziest modders out there in terms of how to implement something. FYI we can use as reference a few things, namely that there is are 2 other Gods that manifests as Avatars in the game, one being lumpy ugly Rillifane, the other being Cyric. I would much rather go with Cyric over Rillifane. Even if Bhaal is dribbling big sword fellow (aka same avatar as Sarevok in Ascension) that would still be coherent. Of course Ravager is also a must have, but probably not as an introductory gloating.
So.. that solves 2 of the potentially hairiest problems
- no Avatar change
- no plot change
Giving Cyric's image to Bhaal would be ultra ironic , then we are left with Cambion image vs Big sword guy. I personally find Cambion image cool, because they are big and intimidating and they also have big swords.
The only last bit of interest is where does he spawn in, what are his powers, etc etc? Being a lazy prick, introducing him as Melissan is weakened and dipping herself back in Bhaal juices (literally), would just have her as the vessel of his rebirth. I would take plenty of satisfaction knowing that she exploded into chunks of flesh, replaced by him, or that he simply took over her body. The change is cosmetic, Bhaal shows up, and also putting to rest the remaining 2-3 siblings of yours (come on, he wants the essence right?)
He does a brief exposition claiming that he expected her betrayal all along, and thanks you (mockingly, the usual) for facilitating his return. He isn't fully himself yet though, thanks to you, so kindly fall over and die.
Abilities, I would like him to be a mage but that wouldn't fit. It would be more poetic if he summons up a few spellcasters while he goes Ravager + Bone Blade + lots of things all over. Or well, something else, so that it doesn't become an anticlimactic rip-off of ToB work. Perhaps an adaptation of Irenicus' final fight for Tactics?
So.. how do you kill a God? if Cyric's ascension is anything to go by, +5 +6 +7 weapons don't cut it. Well simple enough, you have to literally use your own essence of Bhaal and colaesce it into a weapon, ala Godsbane (for those lore pple). Of course, it should simply be named something else cool, maybe not have many cool abilities. And in the end, Bhaal has to be struck by Godsbane to die.
That's it, no more patronising ~Enough playing, boys and girls!~ from Solar.
Minimal (yawn) work.
Thoughts?
I would agree with the idea that Bhaal uses Melissan and possesses her, but please not in her image . I was thinking (given how naive Bhaal is, he is always surprised at something and rages) he would offer You another choice, he can thank you for your help (not very fitting for Bhaal I agree but...) in the downfall of Melissan and kindly ask for your essence promising you a totally awesome mortal life, and rage when we disagree, (now this is so fitting for the good old naive Bhaal).
He can have looots of hit points and turn to ravager when he is desperate, I do not think Cyric's ascension is comparable to <CHARNAME> ,since <CHARNAME> is already godlike, I do not know about Cyric but he was a mortal when he slayed Bhaal right, just because Bhaal has more essences he will be powerful but still <CHARNAME> is not Your regular adventurer.