Hey everybody, nice to be back, despite the fate of the series I still don't mind coming back here talking with the fans...
Anyhow by now we all know that KotOR III is cancelled, officially The Force Unleashed took its place. While it really sucks I still hold out hope that perhaps one day LucasArts may unearth and release it anyhow...a lot of games got cancelled in the 90's by Lucas but we're eventually released into some-such product. I hope they follow suit...just not with TOR lol
For those that haven't seen it (because it passed me by) Lead Designer of KotOR II Chris Avellone revealed some interesting facts about what they were planning on doing with KotOR III given the opportunity. Apparently the 'real Sith' as Kreia referred to were Naga Sadow survivors from his empire, as you can tell from my avatar he was a pretty evil, Sith bad-ass http://starwars.wiki...wiki/Naga_Sadow basically manipulating events behind the scenes 'interfering with key events to cause echoes through the Force and leave it ripe for invasion ? hopefully without a shot even being fired' on an even bigger scale than Sidious did in the movies with of course Revan (being a tactical badd-ass) catching on to this underlying threat. That's where he went and why. Also rumored planets to be included were Coruscant, Mandalore, Rodia, Taloraan...it's all here-
http://www.kotaku.co...chris-avellone/ (Last question of interview)
http://starwars.wiki.../wiki/KOTOR_III
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Naresha
So it looks like we probably weren't going to be shot into the Unknown Regions with Revan or the Exile, likely a new character following the breadcrumbs maybe?! Ah, at this point the speculation is endless. It's too bad George couldn't lay down a few million to finish it that would've seen him make double his investment back...no, he needed those new pair of Ewok slippers and had to fire off a whole department of people lol
Despite what's happened (being an ameteur writer) that surprise, surprise has had a few things actually published I've been encouraged to write a sequel to KotOR II, I'm working on a few other articles and books right now but I just have to do this for my own sanity, everytime I see something on TOR it just really pisses me off lol, at least this way I can stop wondering and move on... If anyone is interested I'll happily pass it along to you, don't worry you can tell me if it sucks lol, I welcome the criticism, it's the only way you know in writing if something is good or not...so far I've gotten some good feedback on it from some very good writers I know
So discuss and be gutchecked about what never was lmao x)
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If KotOR III was made...
23 December 2009 - 05:09 PM
Touching...
15 August 2009 - 12:22 PM
Not sure if this is permitted here, if not well...sorry, just go ahead and shut topic down if so.
I've only found a few KotOR videos on the web I'd consider good, just plain tributes or some such...most are God awful but for some reason I felt like sharing this here. I guess it conveys my depression of no KotOR III.
For future use feel free to share your KotOR tributes and such.
I've only found a few KotOR videos on the web I'd consider good, just plain tributes or some such...most are God awful but for some reason I felt like sharing this here. I guess it conveys my depression of no KotOR III.
For future use feel free to share your KotOR tributes and such.
KotOR III possible storyline???
09 August 2009 - 12:29 PM
I posted this in another topic but it got no response, I think this warrants its own topic for everybody to discuss.
So with TOR official (it being a thousand years or however long) into the future with the real Sith finally returning at what time should the story of KotOR III take place at? And once permitting that how? Any ideas? Keep in mind Bioware has said they'll be mentions and decendants of old characters but everyone (including Revan) will not be involved in the TOR. I'd like to hear a fresh prospective from people...
Here's a few possibilities I think:
1- A new character is created, say a fresh-faced passionate Padawan full of young exuberence being trained under one of the lost Jedi...a: some threat arises in the known galaxy (say a crime lord or some such bad guy from the vacuum of both wars) and he faces it with the other lost Jedi with Revan and the Exile returning from Unknown space towards the end. b: one day he leaves his Master before his training is complete (this would setup the pitfall of light/dark side) and goes to look for Revan and the Exile while the rest of the Republic/Mandalorians lie in wait, after several cross planetary clues he finds both Jedi and the story resumes from there. (Not much detail here but something like this could write itself)
(I get into more detail here but I'm a writer on the side, so sue me...sorta my personal fantasy of a perfect way to tie in the trilogy)
2- You resume your role as either the Exile or Revan (choosing before you begin the game), a: the Exile finds Revan in a dismal state having been defeated and enslaved by the true Sith for some time, as the Exile you free Revan and the two set out to destroy the Sith empire before they are ready to rally their forces for invasion. You run into an unstoppable Sith :mainbadguy-DarthWhatever: that originally defeated Revan, even with the combined power of the two strong Jedi they are no match for him and his forces. Dejected they escape the Unknown Regions with all hope lost...then we cut to a vision or Force ghost of Kreia, she informs them that hope is not lost but there is a way to defeat the Sith Lord but they must jouney back to Malachor V which has been miraculously restored through the Force...there, they return to the Trayus Core where Kreia awaits to inform that in order for them to suceed they must both fight one another to the death.
It is only by this way that one of them will be strong enough to confront the :mainSithbadguy: and defeat his rising empire(it would have to be Malachor V alone for the transferance of power to work). Reluctantly they agree knowing it to be the only way or the Sith will succeed. So as the player you make your choice and one of them eventually slays the other in an awe inspiring battle...for cannon I was thinking the Exile should kill Revan, I know no one is more powerful and every loves Reven but it's sorta be a passing of the torch as Master-Apprentice, plus the Exile has the advantage of the void in the Force that Revan does not...a tear jerking cinamatic with Revan dying in the Exiles arms or vice versa as the planet begins to break apart once again. The Exile escapes as the world returns to its former destroyed state, eventually he rallies the Republic under Carth, the Jedi under Bastila and the Mandalorians under Canderous.
They set out to the Unknown Regions after the rising Sith empire, a great battle ensues on the true Sith homeworld from the ground, in the air and between the Exile and the :mainSith:...in an epic duel the Exile with the new found strength is able to kill :theSithbadguy: and with his death his forces are stunted loosing the power of their Master, they are easily routed by the Republic and Mandalorians. The trilogy ends with Kreias redemtion for saving the galaxy returning to the light :herforceghostappears: or she is seen transformed into one. Then the Exile and the surviving members of the Republic celebrate finally, fully victorious as the Exile overlooks the cheering members of both armies from a higher level with the sun setting on the credits with the Republic entering a 200 year era of peace and prosperity. The End...but after the credits a lone Sith (either :mainSithbadguys: Apprentice or just plain Sith) is shown crawling from the wreckage after the battle swearing his vengeance upon the Republic and the Jedi, he leaves with a splintered force to a hidden world in the Unknown Regions where they could never be found, allowing their forces time to rebuilt unchecked. This is where TOR timeline would come in.
Obviously not getting into the specifics like varying party members or for a change (being the only two in Unknown Space) none at all. And we could switch up the dark/light storylines, of course on Dark Malachor survived...instead of the Exile finding Revan, the light Revan returns to assume control challenging a dark Exile...so on, so forth with everything falling into overall plot place.
You could spin it a hundred ways but I feel one of these ideas could be a winner, what do you think? I got probably a million plot ideas lol...and of course post your ideas as well.
So with TOR official (it being a thousand years or however long) into the future with the real Sith finally returning at what time should the story of KotOR III take place at? And once permitting that how? Any ideas? Keep in mind Bioware has said they'll be mentions and decendants of old characters but everyone (including Revan) will not be involved in the TOR. I'd like to hear a fresh prospective from people...
Here's a few possibilities I think:
1- A new character is created, say a fresh-faced passionate Padawan full of young exuberence being trained under one of the lost Jedi...a: some threat arises in the known galaxy (say a crime lord or some such bad guy from the vacuum of both wars) and he faces it with the other lost Jedi with Revan and the Exile returning from Unknown space towards the end. b: one day he leaves his Master before his training is complete (this would setup the pitfall of light/dark side) and goes to look for Revan and the Exile while the rest of the Republic/Mandalorians lie in wait, after several cross planetary clues he finds both Jedi and the story resumes from there. (Not much detail here but something like this could write itself)
(I get into more detail here but I'm a writer on the side, so sue me...sorta my personal fantasy of a perfect way to tie in the trilogy)
2- You resume your role as either the Exile or Revan (choosing before you begin the game), a: the Exile finds Revan in a dismal state having been defeated and enslaved by the true Sith for some time, as the Exile you free Revan and the two set out to destroy the Sith empire before they are ready to rally their forces for invasion. You run into an unstoppable Sith :mainbadguy-DarthWhatever: that originally defeated Revan, even with the combined power of the two strong Jedi they are no match for him and his forces. Dejected they escape the Unknown Regions with all hope lost...then we cut to a vision or Force ghost of Kreia, she informs them that hope is not lost but there is a way to defeat the Sith Lord but they must jouney back to Malachor V which has been miraculously restored through the Force...there, they return to the Trayus Core where Kreia awaits to inform that in order for them to suceed they must both fight one another to the death.
It is only by this way that one of them will be strong enough to confront the :mainSithbadguy: and defeat his rising empire(it would have to be Malachor V alone for the transferance of power to work). Reluctantly they agree knowing it to be the only way or the Sith will succeed. So as the player you make your choice and one of them eventually slays the other in an awe inspiring battle...for cannon I was thinking the Exile should kill Revan, I know no one is more powerful and every loves Reven but it's sorta be a passing of the torch as Master-Apprentice, plus the Exile has the advantage of the void in the Force that Revan does not...a tear jerking cinamatic with Revan dying in the Exiles arms or vice versa as the planet begins to break apart once again. The Exile escapes as the world returns to its former destroyed state, eventually he rallies the Republic under Carth, the Jedi under Bastila and the Mandalorians under Canderous.
They set out to the Unknown Regions after the rising Sith empire, a great battle ensues on the true Sith homeworld from the ground, in the air and between the Exile and the :mainSith:...in an epic duel the Exile with the new found strength is able to kill :theSithbadguy: and with his death his forces are stunted loosing the power of their Master, they are easily routed by the Republic and Mandalorians. The trilogy ends with Kreias redemtion for saving the galaxy returning to the light :herforceghostappears: or she is seen transformed into one. Then the Exile and the surviving members of the Republic celebrate finally, fully victorious as the Exile overlooks the cheering members of both armies from a higher level with the sun setting on the credits with the Republic entering a 200 year era of peace and prosperity. The End...but after the credits a lone Sith (either :mainSithbadguys: Apprentice or just plain Sith) is shown crawling from the wreckage after the battle swearing his vengeance upon the Republic and the Jedi, he leaves with a splintered force to a hidden world in the Unknown Regions where they could never be found, allowing their forces time to rebuilt unchecked. This is where TOR timeline would come in.
Obviously not getting into the specifics like varying party members or for a change (being the only two in Unknown Space) none at all. And we could switch up the dark/light storylines, of course on Dark Malachor survived...instead of the Exile finding Revan, the light Revan returns to assume control challenging a dark Exile...so on, so forth with everything falling into overall plot place.
You could spin it a hundred ways but I feel one of these ideas could be a winner, what do you think? I got probably a million plot ideas lol...and of course post your ideas as well.
A glimmer of hope for KotOR III
07 August 2009 - 11:10 AM
I'm sure you're all aware of my disgust with Lucas and Bioware over the major botching of the franchise, I've been to the well and back debated with (no offense if you are one) PC fanboys all over the web (including the TOR site itself) who've done their best to team up and crush me but atlas I'm still here and still mightly ticked off...well maybe not as much after getting everything off my chest. I mean lets be real for a moment how can kids actually be looking forward to this, they didn't even finish the bloody trilogy! To compare it'd be like making Halo2 then putting out Halo Wars in Halo3's place, wouldn't they think it might piss alot of people off lol. And I've seen the content, trailers everything and to tell you the truth it looks God awful, they can dress it up at E3 and get Lance Hendriksen in all his voiceover glory but the bottom line is it looks terrible so far...did you see the main bad guy, I mean please, Revan, hell even Malak would mop the floor with him in the character department.
Anyways, there's an article with Feargus Urquhart (Head of Obsidian) and he said they still wants to make KotOR III but really the ball is in LucasArts court. Here's the links, no b.s.
http://www.gamebansh...usurquhart2.php
http://kotor3.net/20...-1/#comment-712
Unless a miracle happens I have an idea how it'll go, in a year or so TOR will be released making lots of money, money money...cause its obviously what George wants to keep his empire going lol! Anyway they'll mull over it and nonetheless turn it down and get started on the money hustling sequel to TOR striking the final blow to the dedicated hardcore fanbase. The End.
But I get it...its a business. Artistic creation will always fall prey to more money to be made. At the end of the day we hardcore fans who invested our time and money are just plain shafted...a shitty state of affairs. Oh well, least there's Mass Effect 2...or is it only a matter of time until it falls prey to the curse of the MMO lol
I'll see ya
Anyways, there's an article with Feargus Urquhart (Head of Obsidian) and he said they still wants to make KotOR III but really the ball is in LucasArts court. Here's the links, no b.s.
http://www.gamebansh...usurquhart2.php
http://kotor3.net/20...-1/#comment-712
Unless a miracle happens I have an idea how it'll go, in a year or so TOR will be released making lots of money, money money...cause its obviously what George wants to keep his empire going lol! Anyway they'll mull over it and nonetheless turn it down and get started on the money hustling sequel to TOR striking the final blow to the dedicated hardcore fanbase. The End.
But I get it...its a business. Artistic creation will always fall prey to more money to be made. At the end of the day we hardcore fans who invested our time and money are just plain shafted...a shitty state of affairs. Oh well, least there's Mass Effect 2...or is it only a matter of time until it falls prey to the curse of the MMO lol
I'll see ya
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