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Wrye

Member Since 07 May 2007
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In Topic: UESP Wiki Pictures Page

11 May 2007 - 03:09 PM

Re scantily clad figures: No problem. I'll just add a warning at the UESP link. Best not to have full nudity on first page that UESP links to, but scantily clad is okay.

Suggestions: (again, these are just my personal suggestions, not requirements in any way, y'all know the subject matter much better than I):

First page should have some screenshots on it if at all possible. I would say 1-5 in-page screenshots per category, then links to more pictures in the same category. Ideally screenshots would be thumbnails (say 300 px wide?) and link to full size images. The reasons are 1) You want first time viewer to have immediate payoff for following the link. The screenshots should quickly and easily show what the page offers and draw the viewer into see the other twenty or so screenshots per category. (Keep in mind different people will prefer different things. So with sample screens, some will go direct to character portraits, others go direct to battle scenes.)

Figure out your plan (which you've done), then start simple and get something up fast. E.g, just pick 1-5 screenshots per category and put it up ASAP. Couple of advantages to this: 1) This way, it's already out there, and from then on it's a matter of incremental improvements. (One of the advantages of wiki is that it's very easy to do this sort of incremental editing.) 2) You'll get more feedback. For most people it's not real until they can see something. So, you'll get a lot more eyeballs and interest. 3) You'll be able to sit back sooner if you don't have the energy -- if you're waiting for perfection, it will be hanging over your head until you release it. 4) As soon as you've got a good start, I can link to it. Which means more eyeballs sooner.

Since you already know BB and forum posting, you might do your first version as a forum posting. Then you can move it to a different format (wiki, regular website) later.


Tables: Tables are fairly easy in wiki. E.g., UESP: Body Mods. (However, that one uses a custom table class. The site owners here should be able to help.)

In Topic: UESP Wiki Pictures Page

08 May 2007 - 02:08 PM

With the recent split, I know that y'all are are little concerned about getting some attention here at SHS, so I'm going to take off my UESP admin hat and make some marketing suggestions. If you can host the picture collection thing here, that would do the most to help promote the site and the screenshot topics in it.

As I understand it, the owner here is being very flexible about type of hosting (forum, wiki, blog), so it should be easy to find a technical option that makes it easy for the designated editors to update the page as needed/desired. And inlining images really does help a lot -- and it's hard to do that at UESP.

If the page looks good (and personally, I'm expecting it to be awesome!) then I'll just link to it from the (somewhat misnamed) recommended mods section of UESP. And of course, folks can add it to their sigs and stuff like that. That should all add up to a pretty decent promotion for SHS.

[Taking off marketing hat, putting interested sidewalk superviser hat.] Some additional ideas:
* Pictures once posted don't have to be kept up eternally. Cycling pictures once a month or so would help keep it fresh, and reduce the competitive aspect somewhat.
* You might also include a new poster section, i.e., five pictures from people who are new or relatively new posters. It might work best to put those at the top (and conversely the Holy Shit, I'm so Jealous! pictures at the bottom. (This is just an idea, and might not work depending on how you categorize the page.)

In Topic: Lets discuss a few things

08 May 2007 - 01:38 PM

An alternative and/or additional suggestion. Have a separate slow/newbie thread for people just getting started and/or who don't have time to post tons of posts. Pro/fast users don't post screenshots to slow/new thread, but can (and should) post comments.

(Don't mind me. I was just passing by on my way to get a banana. Just thought that I'd chip in with the suggestion.)

In Topic: UESP Wiki Pictures Page

07 May 2007 - 11:21 PM

Hi y'all. Just dropping by briefly -- glad to see you folks settling in here -- and definitely nice to have a screenshots topics on a forum that allows images! :lol: Some truly gravity defying images in there. :blink:

Re the page, I've PM'ed with Kalia a couple of times about it, but I have only a few ideas of what should be there. My attitude tends to be start small, get something out there, and then get more complicated if need be (but not too complicated). I like the Kalia's point about not saying "Best" -- it really is hard to decide such things.

My thoughts were just as an occasional passerby of that the POOC topics -- Wow, a lot of these are awesome! And I just don't want them lost in the sands of digital time. Since I'm an admin at UESP, that's my first thought for a location. But that's just my idea. There are some advantages and disadvantages (which I covered earlier with Kalia). One of the strong advantages is the ability share and pass editorship on as people who were original leaders get busy -- that's something that's very natural and easy in a wiki, and in line with something I was trying to do at UESP -- host and link to more recommendation pages. But whether the main page is hosted at UESP or not, I'm hoping it reaches the point where we can link to it from our (somewhat misnamed) Recommended Mods page.

That's about all I've got. I probably won't be dropping by here very much (like once a week, maybe! :lol:). Best way to contact me is still by PM to the BGS forums, or by posting on the relevant topic there. If you're totally fed up with that, second best way is to drop a message on my UESP talk page. But, PM at BGS is definitely better/faster.

PS/OT: I've released four separate mods in the last week plus an update to Wrye Bash (and I've still got two in the wings.) Particularly relevant: The Wrye Bash update improves race change merging (now handles body and voices). PC Sleep Disrober makes your PC undress when sleeping. Summon Bed gives you a fine looking double bed (room for you and your companion) anywhere you go (not available in cities, but oddly makes an very nice bandit trap in the countryside). (Now, back to your regular topic.) Cheers... Wrye