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Iridian

Member Since 11 Aug 2018
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In Topic: BWPv18 released

11 August 2018 - 04:28 PM

Yes, but is there BWP choice for "install all the mods I've downloaded, _nothing_ more, _nothing_ less"?

Option #1 has three options: Total Happiness, Total Happiness Plus and experienced players preselection - none of these seems to be it.
  As as far as I understand, BWP doesn't do downloads itself. If it did then I would be fine ditching BWS. But plane of fire freezes over before I start downloading a hundred mods manually, that's what tools are for. I'm fine with going to the mod home pages at the end of the installation (for example through a text file which contains list of installed mods and their home page URL's) to read what each individual mod does, so that this way they get visibility and ad revenue.
Heck, I might even do this during the installation if the installed-mods-home-page-urls.txt is automatically opened for me.

Option #3 on the other hand (with unmodified individual.bat) gives me a preview list with six times more lines than I have downloaded. Apparently for BWP it's okay if the list contains mods which are not present: the problem is just that when I did a similar thing with 14.#2, the installer apparently tried to install mods that had not been downloaded and this was very slow.
_After 30 hours_ it had only installed a small part of them.
So I'm hesitant to choose this option either.

Thanks for your response,

--Iridian

In Topic: BWPv18 released

11 August 2018 - 10:57 AM

New user here.
BWP looks like an awesome tool, without it there's zero chance I'd be trying classic with mods.
 
But now I'm now stuck after going through following process:
 
1. I set up BG and BG2 with the first initial saves, with correct paths in baldur.ini - I used InfinityLauncher.exe to launch them the first time to set up the paths correctly. 
  - The installation directories are: "C:/users/me/BWS/Baldur's Gate" and "C:/users/me/BWS/Baldur's Gate 2"
2. I used BWS to select the mods of the "recommended" preset. 
  - It downloaded and extracted the mods to BW2 folder, including BWPv18 itself, nice
3. After BWS is done with the installs + extracts, it launches BWPv18
  - here was the first time I got confused - BWP wants the script to be launched as administrator, which BWS probably doesn't do. Maybe this info screen should contain instructions for users who come from BWS?
4. I chose the BWPv18 option 1.
5. I gave the ...BigWorldSetup-master\App-Downloads to BWP, skipped backup
  - it extracts the mods again to BG2, even though BWS already did this. But fine, I guess.
6. Start a new installation immediately - Yes
  - opens a PDF - I do that.
7. Now here's a problem. It wants me to reboot. Why?
  - No application should ever ask for reboot at this day and age, especially without explaining why - even asking admin access is strange, but fine.
8. Option 3: BGT [BG1 + BG2] - this is what I want.
9. I have to give the "BiG World Downloads" again. I give it the ...BigWorldSetup-master\App-Downloads
10. It did some checks and corrections. 
  - I chose EN as language. Cool.
11. Listing mods in BGII - SoA dir. Y. Looks like the selection I had in BWS. I choose not to see mods that are not in BGII - SoA.
12. "Do you want to list at the end all not installed mods?" 
  - what does this mean? "Once the installation is complete, do you want to see a list of mods that were not successfully installed?"? I choose yes.
13. I want to run the installation unattended, I choose [1]
14. So now I'm at the screen where previously everything is wrong. There are four options, none of which apparently does what I want. 
  1. Do you want to choose a preselection
     - I have already chosen a preselection in BWS - it's all the mods BWS downloaded. Total happiness, total happiness plus, personal mod selection from players - none of them help me.
  2. Do you want to assemble ... 
    - I tried this, picked an interesting combination - got huge list of mods and after 30 hours of install process I gave up. Not good.
  3. Do you want to use an installer changed by your own and skip the settings?
    - The preview once more lists a huge list of mods, much more than is in the downloads folder or "currently existing". Looks similar to option 1 - Not good.
  4. Do you want to install all you can get
    - Same as option 1 - it wants me to pick a preselection but I have already done that with BWS. Not good.
 
Stuck, what do? Maybe I'm missing something obvious?
 
 
Thoughts: both BWS and BWP look awesome, and it would seem like they to different things, BWS = select, download and extract mods, BWP = selects and install mods safely.
Ideal solution from my perspective would be to fully have BWS do the mod selection and then have BWP continue the actual installation from where BWS left it off. I guess this was how earlier versions of BWS+BWP did it, but at least with BWPv18 it is not at all obvious what must be done to continue.
 
I'm a professional software developer: I think BWP is technically _very_ impressive tool in what it does. But BWS solves the problem it has from the perspective of a new user: usability. It would be a real pity if these two don't work together seamlessly, especially as my instinct tells me that the BWS->BWP installation transition shouldn't be even that hard to maintain.

--Iridian

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