No, it should be fine. The talks can trigger in dungeon areas.
OK, thanks.
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22 October 2018 - 06:50 AM
No, it should be fine. The talks can trigger in dungeon areas.
OK, thanks.
28 June 2018 - 04:57 AM
Really hard to say anything else than YEAH.Re-read the post again and there's no other conclusion you could get, is there ? ... well unless you play in the actual BG2 and not within the BG2EE, as then you are left with a bone... as Isra joins as a level 2 char.
Oh, got it, sorry, I thought you were talking about BG EE only, since she actually starts at lvl 2 there, for me anyway. So, what you're saying is that she starts at lvl 2 in both games but her level scales the higher level your party is?
28 June 2018 - 12:05 AM
Typical to the EE npcs, Isra joins your party at a level 2, and if your char has enougth experience, the NPCs gain levels as they join the party. ...At EE games. If you get her at BGT-weidu, you are F'ed, with a level 2 NPC... unless you use Level 1 NPCs xp component or some other thing to add the xp.
I meant does her level scale in BG2. I mean, when she joins your party.
26 June 2018 - 04:10 PM
There are 6 different endings:
Spoiler1. No romance
After the victory at the Throne of Bhaal, Isra remained in Tethyr for a time, where she hoped to help repair the damage caused during the Bhaalspawn Crisis. Though she seldom spoke of the uglier aspects of the conflict, those who knew her believed that she felt the need to atone for harm inadvertently committed. This did little to dampen her spirits, however, and she became quite popular amongst the Tethyrian aristocracy... and with one if its minstrels in particular, according to rumor. Nevertheless, her time in Tethyr came to an abrupt end when relations with Amn escalated. Returning north to Crimmor, Isra finally renewed her ties to the Order of the Ruby Rose. Illustrious though her later career proved, no quest could compare to the one undertaken in her youth, and Isra retired from active service at a younger age than she might have otherwise liked. It is said that she eventually went into politics, striving to introduce a bit of compassion into a system sadly devoid of it. She never married, though if Athkatlan gossip can be believed, she seldom suffered from loneliness.
2. Romance, PC stays mortal, wants to travel, father is nice
After their victory at the Throne of Bhaal, Isra and returned to Amn for a short time, where Isra was finally able to show her lover around her adopted home city of Crimmor. The moment of calm did not last long, however, as Isra could not dislodge the feeling that they had left their work in Tethyr unfinished. Hoping to help repair the damage caused during the Bhaalspawn Crisis, they returned south, and despite an initial cool reception by the Crown, eventually became well regarded within the kingdom... at least until relations with Amn escalated. They returned north to Crimmor, where Isra finally renewed her ties to the Order of the Ruby Rose. found himself very welcome amongst the Sunite paladins as well, and legend says that he accompanied Isra on a number of missions on their behest. Unconventional though their romance may have been during those years, their commitment to each other only grew, and upon retiring from active service, they were eventually married in Athkatla. Isra's father took an instant liking to her new husband, only bemoaning the fact that they were not wed years earlier. More poignant for Isra was her eldest sister Rana's unexpected presence at the wedding, and they took the first steps towards mending their very damaged relationship. It is said that Isra eventually went into politics, striving to introduce a bit of compassion into a system sadly devoid of it. What ultimately became of Isra and , however, no tale tells.
3. Romance, PC stays mortal, wants to travel, father is not nice
After their victory at the Throne of Bhaal, Isra and returned to Amn for a short time, where Isra was finally able to show her lover around her adopted home city of Crimmor. The moment of calm did not last long, however, as Isra could not dislodge the feeling that they had left their work in Tethyr unfinished. Hoping to help repair the damage caused during the Bhaalspawn Crisis, they returned south, and despite an initial cool reception by the Crown, eventually became well regarded within the kingdom... at least until relations with Amn escalated. They returned north to Crimmor, where Isra finally renewed her ties to the Order of the Ruby Rose. found self very welcome amongst the Sunite paladins as well, and legend says that accompanied Isra on a number of missions on their behest. Unconventional though their romance may have been during those years, their commitment to each other only grew, and upon retiring from active service, they were eventually married in Athkatla. Although Isra's father was not as gracious to his new -in-law as he might have been, his disapproval was more than overshadowed by Isra's eldest sister Rana's presence at the wedding. While it would take years to fully mend their damaged relationship, the first steps proved easier than either had expected. It is said that Isra eventually went into politics, striving to introduce a bit of compassion into a system sadly devoid of it. What ultimately became of Isra and , however, no tale tells.
4. Romance, PC stays mortal, wants to settle, father is nice
After their victory at the Throne of Bhaal, Isra and returned to Amn for a short time, where Isra was finally able to show her lover around her adopted home city of Crimmor. The moment of calm did not last long, however, as Isra could not dislodge the feeling that they had left their work in Tethyr unfinished. Hoping to help repair the damage caused during the Bhaalspawn Crisis, they returned south, and despite an initial cool reception by the Crown, eventually became well regarded within the kingdom... at least until relations with Amn escalated. They returned north to Crimmor, where Isra finally renewed her ties to the Order of the Ruby Rose. The subsequent years were difficult on Isra and , and they did not see nearly as much of one another as they would have liked. Though their relationship was strained at times, it never died entirely, and upon Isra's retirement from active service, they worked to rebuild what they had once had. Unsurprisingly, perhaps, for a couple almost certainly blessed by Sune Firehair, they succeeded, and they were eventually married in Athkatla. Isra's father took an instant liking to her new husband, only bemoaning the fact that they were not wed years earlier. More poignant for Isra was her eldest sister Rana's unexpected presence at the wedding, and they took the first steps towards mending their very damaged relationship. It is said that Isra eventually went into politics, striving to introduce a bit of compassion into a system sadly devoid of it. What ultimately became of Isra and , however, no tale tells.
5. Romance, PC stays mortal, wants to settle, father is not nice
After their victory at the Throne of Bhaal, Isra and returned to Amn for a short time, where Isra was finally able to show her lover around her adopted home city of Crimmor. The moment of calm did not last long, however, as Isra could not dislodge the feeling that they had left their work in Tethyr unfinished. Hoping to help repair the damage caused during the Bhaalspawn Crisis, they returned south, and despite an initial cool reception by the Crown, eventually became well regarded within the kingdom... at least until relations with Amn escalated. They returned north to Crimmor, where Isra finally renewed her ties to the Order of the Ruby Rose. The subsequent years were difficult on Isra and , and they did not see nearly as much of one another as they would have liked. Though their relationship was strained at times, it never died entirely, and upon Isra's retirement from active service, they worked to rebuild what they had once had. Unsurprisingly, perhaps, for a couple almost certainly blessed by Sune Firehair, they succeeded, and they were eventually married in Athkatla. Although Isra's father was not as gracious to his new -in-law as he might have been, his disapproval was more than overshadowed by Isra's eldest sister Rana's presence at the wedding. While it would take years to fully mend their damaged relationship, the first steps proved easier than either had expected. It is said that Isra eventually went into politics, striving to introduce a bit of compassion into a system sadly devoid of it. What ultimately became of Isra and , however, no tale tells.
6. Romance, PC ascends
After 's ascension, Isra remained in Tethyr for a time, where she hoped to help repair the damage caused during the Bhaalspawn Crisis. Though saddened by her former lover's departure, she found a degree of solace in her work, and soon became quite popular amongst the Tethyrian aristocracy... at least until relations with Amn escalated. Returning north to Crimmor, Isra finally renewed her ties to the Order of the Ruby Rose. Illustrious though her later career proved, no quest could compare to the one undertaken in her youth, and Isra retired from active service at a younger age than she might have otherwise liked. It is said that she eventually went into politics, striving to introduce a bit of compassion into a system sadly devoid of it. Though she would remember fondly, Isra was never one to live in memory alone, and her various romances became a favorite topic of Athkatla's gossips in the years to come.So, by the way you put it, I take it that Isra's father can only be nice if your character is male?
Male and human. If I remember correctly, it ties back into Calishite traditionalism.
I think that's great. Not for Isra and her female lover of course but for realistic portrayal. Because, according to Ed Greenwood himself, while homosexuality is rather accepted in the Forgotten Realms, especially by followers of Lliira (her only known lover is one of her priestesses) and Sune and drow females are even encouraged to have lesbian lovers (although, while there are quite a few of lesbian and bisexual drow women, most of them do so because they see males as beneath them. Male homosexuality, however is punished by castration, think reverse ancient Greece), nobles, while some do have same sex lovers, pretty much have to get married with a person of opposite sex.
26 June 2018 - 01:45 PM
There are 6 different endings:
Spoiler1. No romance
After the victory at the Throne of Bhaal, Isra remained in Tethyr for a time, where she hoped to help repair the damage caused during the Bhaalspawn Crisis. Though she seldom spoke of the uglier aspects of the conflict, those who knew her believed that she felt the need to atone for harm inadvertently committed. This did little to dampen her spirits, however, and she became quite popular amongst the Tethyrian aristocracy... and with one if its minstrels in particular, according to rumor. Nevertheless, her time in Tethyr came to an abrupt end when relations with Amn escalated. Returning north to Crimmor, Isra finally renewed her ties to the Order of the Ruby Rose. Illustrious though her later career proved, no quest could compare to the one undertaken in her youth, and Isra retired from active service at a younger age than she might have otherwise liked. It is said that she eventually went into politics, striving to introduce a bit of compassion into a system sadly devoid of it. She never married, though if Athkatlan gossip can be believed, she seldom suffered from loneliness.
2. Romance, PC stays mortal, wants to travel, father is nice
After their victory at the Throne of Bhaal, Isra and returned to Amn for a short time, where Isra was finally able to show her lover around her adopted home city of Crimmor. The moment of calm did not last long, however, as Isra could not dislodge the feeling that they had left their work in Tethyr unfinished. Hoping to help repair the damage caused during the Bhaalspawn Crisis, they returned south, and despite an initial cool reception by the Crown, eventually became well regarded within the kingdom... at least until relations with Amn escalated. They returned north to Crimmor, where Isra finally renewed her ties to the Order of the Ruby Rose. found himself very welcome amongst the Sunite paladins as well, and legend says that he accompanied Isra on a number of missions on their behest. Unconventional though their romance may have been during those years, their commitment to each other only grew, and upon retiring from active service, they were eventually married in Athkatla. Isra's father took an instant liking to her new husband, only bemoaning the fact that they were not wed years earlier. More poignant for Isra was her eldest sister Rana's unexpected presence at the wedding, and they took the first steps towards mending their very damaged relationship. It is said that Isra eventually went into politics, striving to introduce a bit of compassion into a system sadly devoid of it. What ultimately became of Isra and , however, no tale tells.
3. Romance, PC stays mortal, wants to travel, father is not nice
After their victory at the Throne of Bhaal, Isra and returned to Amn for a short time, where Isra was finally able to show her lover around her adopted home city of Crimmor. The moment of calm did not last long, however, as Isra could not dislodge the feeling that they had left their work in Tethyr unfinished. Hoping to help repair the damage caused during the Bhaalspawn Crisis, they returned south, and despite an initial cool reception by the Crown, eventually became well regarded within the kingdom... at least until relations with Amn escalated. They returned north to Crimmor, where Isra finally renewed her ties to the Order of the Ruby Rose. found self very welcome amongst the Sunite paladins as well, and legend says that accompanied Isra on a number of missions on their behest. Unconventional though their romance may have been during those years, their commitment to each other only grew, and upon retiring from active service, they were eventually married in Athkatla. Although Isra's father was not as gracious to his new -in-law as he might have been, his disapproval was more than overshadowed by Isra's eldest sister Rana's presence at the wedding. While it would take years to fully mend their damaged relationship, the first steps proved easier than either had expected. It is said that Isra eventually went into politics, striving to introduce a bit of compassion into a system sadly devoid of it. What ultimately became of Isra and , however, no tale tells.
4. Romance, PC stays mortal, wants to settle, father is nice
After their victory at the Throne of Bhaal, Isra and returned to Amn for a short time, where Isra was finally able to show her lover around her adopted home city of Crimmor. The moment of calm did not last long, however, as Isra could not dislodge the feeling that they had left their work in Tethyr unfinished. Hoping to help repair the damage caused during the Bhaalspawn Crisis, they returned south, and despite an initial cool reception by the Crown, eventually became well regarded within the kingdom... at least until relations with Amn escalated. They returned north to Crimmor, where Isra finally renewed her ties to the Order of the Ruby Rose. The subsequent years were difficult on Isra and , and they did not see nearly as much of one another as they would have liked. Though their relationship was strained at times, it never died entirely, and upon Isra's retirement from active service, they worked to rebuild what they had once had. Unsurprisingly, perhaps, for a couple almost certainly blessed by Sune Firehair, they succeeded, and they were eventually married in Athkatla. Isra's father took an instant liking to her new husband, only bemoaning the fact that they were not wed years earlier. More poignant for Isra was her eldest sister Rana's unexpected presence at the wedding, and they took the first steps towards mending their very damaged relationship. It is said that Isra eventually went into politics, striving to introduce a bit of compassion into a system sadly devoid of it. What ultimately became of Isra and , however, no tale tells.
5. Romance, PC stays mortal, wants to settle, father is not nice
After their victory at the Throne of Bhaal, Isra and returned to Amn for a short time, where Isra was finally able to show her lover around her adopted home city of Crimmor. The moment of calm did not last long, however, as Isra could not dislodge the feeling that they had left their work in Tethyr unfinished. Hoping to help repair the damage caused during the Bhaalspawn Crisis, they returned south, and despite an initial cool reception by the Crown, eventually became well regarded within the kingdom... at least until relations with Amn escalated. They returned north to Crimmor, where Isra finally renewed her ties to the Order of the Ruby Rose. The subsequent years were difficult on Isra and , and they did not see nearly as much of one another as they would have liked. Though their relationship was strained at times, it never died entirely, and upon Isra's retirement from active service, they worked to rebuild what they had once had. Unsurprisingly, perhaps, for a couple almost certainly blessed by Sune Firehair, they succeeded, and they were eventually married in Athkatla. Although Isra's father was not as gracious to his new -in-law as he might have been, his disapproval was more than overshadowed by Isra's eldest sister Rana's presence at the wedding. While it would take years to fully mend their damaged relationship, the first steps proved easier than either had expected. It is said that Isra eventually went into politics, striving to introduce a bit of compassion into a system sadly devoid of it. What ultimately became of Isra and , however, no tale tells.
6. Romance, PC ascends
After 's ascension, Isra remained in Tethyr for a time, where she hoped to help repair the damage caused during the Bhaalspawn Crisis. Though saddened by her former lover's departure, she found a degree of solace in her work, and soon became quite popular amongst the Tethyrian aristocracy... at least until relations with Amn escalated. Returning north to Crimmor, Isra finally renewed her ties to the Order of the Ruby Rose. Illustrious though her later career proved, no quest could compare to the one undertaken in her youth, and Isra retired from active service at a younger age than she might have otherwise liked. It is said that she eventually went into politics, striving to introduce a bit of compassion into a system sadly devoid of it. Though she would remember fondly, Isra was never one to live in memory alone, and her various romances became a favorite topic of Athkatla's gossips in the years to come.
So, by the way you put it, I take it that Isra's father can only be nice if your character is male?
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