Auvrin

Jerr, on Mar 1 2004, 10:42 PM, said:

If you don't like it, don't download it Auvrin.

I don't plan to in all honesty. I don't have the time. Even if I did, I would still find myself having a hard to playing a Valen romance, even from an educational stand point. My only reason for making a comment on this once again was simply because someone asked when and if "Weimer" was working on a romance for Valen, and to that Thorium replied yes many times. That is incorrect information, as Thorium is the one making a romance, not Weimer.

Stukov, on Mar 1 2004, 12:10 PM, said:

According to this way of thinking there should be no modding at all. No flirt packs, banter packs etc. No solaufein! I don't uderstand you, comrade. Bioware supports these attempts to alter the game. Some of the modders where actually in the original game designer team. What about Redemption/Ascesnsion etc? Do you think the same about them? What mods do you play after all?

As I said in the post before, I have nothing against modding. I was simply stating the technical facts since it was brought up. In general, it doesn't really matter who the person is, wether they were in the team or not. Black Isle, or more accurately, Interplay, and the other companies in it's creation, owns all rights to BG2 and could technically sue anyone that altered their program. It's only a fact, not the way I feel. Wether or not Bioware supports modding doesn't matter, as they don't own all the rights to BG2.

As for you Thorium, until you actually make an intelligent attempt at holding a position in a debate, you're not worth my time aside from this dismissal.

Jerr, on Mar 1 2004, 07:51 AM, said:

ACTUALLY, the blunt facts of the matter are there is no "OFFICIAL" Valen Mod and anyone is free to use the Valen character in their own mod......

If you'd like to get into the legal and technical side of it, by all means, but then again if you did that, everyone out in the modding community could be up and sued without question for altering and editing a copy written program. Valen is a character created by Black Isle, so there is no official Valen outside the one that comes to your party and offers the chance to go to the graveyard. In all reality -no one- has the right to alter or change anything within the game. It doesn't even matter if you went out to the store and bought your copy of BG2. You just own the discs and whatever else came in the box, you have no rights to any of the data stored within it, nor any right to alter it.

I'm a strong supporter of modding, but if you want to dig down to the facts that's more then fine with me.

Now then, let's take it a bit further. Weimer made his own version of Valen, and altered her into what she is within this mod. He never really had the "rights" to do it, but did so any ways for his own enjoyment, or what not. This would then be called an 'official Weimer alteration'. Now Thorium is altering a character yet again, he's not Black Isle, nor is he Weimer, and lastly he still doesn't have the 'rights' to do it. Thorium's creation will no longer be Weimer's mod, but it will be Thorium's with the basis of Black Isle and Weimer's work. So again, No. Weimer's Valen is, as far as we all know, no longer being worked on by Weimer, nor will he be adding a romance unless he returns to the work, permission was given to Thorium to alter -Weimer's-Valen, but it is -not- of Weimer's creation, nor of Black Isle. So once more, for good measure, No.

Actually, no, Because the maker of this mod isn't making a romance. Someone (namely you Thorium), felt the need to add one in your own design. So simply put, there isn't, and probably never will be, an official romance for the Valen mod. The only planning for such a thing at this point are spin offs and alterations.

Just the blunt facts.

Quitch, on Jan 13 2004, 11:46 AM, said:

I can assure you that both this mod and Return to Windspear will feature chances for true evil.

Always refreshing when evil has it's place.