Luvian

Nonono! She did read those sex tomes Quitch! She tells this Anomen in TOB!  No naive person would do that and certainly nobody would remained naive after that unless she was mentally retarded. 

Keep in mind that Baldur's Gate is happening in a medieval setting, and while commoners might be a little loser with rules of etiquette than nobles, having sex before mariage at that time was not really accepted. Especially for people living in a monastery.

Sure, she might have read such novels, but I'm pretty sure she is not the kind of person to go have sex with the first cute random guard.

She was also probably reading them in secret, too. She also must have been feeling all rebel for reading those. Much like a teenager who go to a party without permission.

Edit: Also keep in mind that there was no birth control or real abortion back then. Most single female didn't really go around having sex for fun as they might do these days.

as I think it at least prove she is open minded enough to comment on the physical appearance of members of the same sex. I know lots of people who would never even consider doing that.

It is a part of every-day conversations between ladies to comment on the physical appearance of other ladies in a complimentary way: "Oh, your hair look nice today, Cattie!  That's a great dress, it suits you so well! Yes, Sue is a pretty little lady, but her tongue is too sharp..." Dryads are magical creatures of great beauty. Is commenting on oaks as beautiful put you into phytosexual category?

True. Alone, this prove nothing.

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Edit: About the phytosexual comment, I think you misunderstood my first post. I never said that she should be attracted to women because she could comment on them. It's simply an element of her personality. Alone this mean nothing, but add all the elements I commented on in my first post, and I think my vision of Imoen make sense.

Read my first post again. Don't you agree that my vision of Imoen is possible?

I guess I misunderstood your post, it's the "We know that Imoen can find females beautiful from the dryad dialog. That doesn't mean that she's bisexual or homosexual, but it also doesn't mean she's straight." part that confused me, as I think it at least prove she is open minded enough to comment on the physical appearance of members of the same sex. I know lots of people who would never even consider doing that.

I also disagree with you about being open minded not having an effect on her sexual orientation. If she was an homophobe, she would obviously not be bi or homosexual. And if she was a prude, it would also have a huge effect on her personality. She is not any of those, so to me, it mean she is open minded, and it has a huge effect on her opinion toward sex and love in general.

Beside that, yes, I agree with you.

Wait... is this the Imoen Relationship forum, or did I stumble in General Discussion without knowing it?

QUOTE (Theodur)
Ask yourself one question - what would Irenicus gain by raping Imoen...

As I said, this can only be based on personal opinion. What's the point of arguing about this? It's not even on topic.

Quote (Rassadihn)
Could you assign percentages?

I'm sorry, I'll shut up now.

How about joining the discussion instead of making some smartass comment?

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Sorry pal, it's not an opinion, it is a FACT, and it's your fault if you don't see it.
Before you can debate about any argument, you have to agree on basic FACTS.
Since people here negate FACTS (and the trend seems to survive) any debate about Imoen or any other argument is WORTHLESS...

Heh, first of all, your opinion is just that, an opinion. Your personal preferences are not facts. You know, maybe all the other people on this forum are not really negating facts, could it be that you simply don't know the difference between facts and opinions?

Quote (Littiz)
I am *OFFENDED* by positions like yours.
People like you (it seems, if not I refer to others who posted here) continually state that their love can be so Pure and Deep that they are uninterested in the loved one's gender.
Good, but, if their love is so Pure and Ethereal and suffices to them, why don't they spend their whole life with the loved ones WITHOUT having sex? They're not *forced* to do homosexual sex.

You would have to be a psychic to know my opinion on this subject, as I have not mentioned it. And why would they spend their whole life without having sex if they like each other? What's wrong with enjoying sex? The way you say it, it seem to me that you consider homosexual sex to be something bad, or at the very least not as good as hetero sex. "Why should they have homosexual sex if they can avoid it" is what I see you as saying in that post.

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If you freely decide to have sex with that person, you don't do it for your superior morality, you do it because you enjoy it. Your TASTES are such that you may consider physically pleasant having sex with one of your gender.
If NOT, your Pure Love could still tie you to the loved one, but you'd avoid sex, which would serve only for pleasure, being even impossible to generate kids.

So it's only a matter of tastes.
You're not BETTER than me. You just follow your tastes, like me.
Counter this reasonment if you can.

Duh! If course someone who would be willing to have sex with someone else would do it because he would like it. If it would make him feel sick he wouldn't do it.

Of course, it's a matter of tastes, and guess what? Tastes are personal opinions, not facts.

And it's strange, I saw no one here implying that they had a superior morality or better tastes. I even said your opinion is as good as mine.

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You are right, she is neutral good.

"But my female half-elven fighter/mage was Chaotic Good, and she was still heterosexual."
And your point is? Sexual attraction is not determined by aligment alone.

"Actually, I know the conversation with the Dryads isn't proof of anything, because I just played through that part yesterday..."

They also give no proof that she was not raped. As I said twice already, it's only a matter of personal opinion. I believe she was, you believe she was not. There is nothing else to add to this off topic subject.

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There is no proof of Imoen's sexuality. And that's what we're talking about, right? Not whether someones love is more pure then anyone elses, or anything of that.
There is no evidence.
We know that Imoen can find females beautiful from the dryad dialog. That doesn't mean that she's bisexual or homosexual, but it also doesn't mean she's straight.
There's no proof either way.
That's the point of this conversation. Not 'I wish she was this way so my character could date her/couldn't date her/it would fit with my moral upbringing/because it makes more sense'. This is 'what do you think her sexuality is?'.
No one is ever going to agree on one choice, that's for sure. But it's getting sort of silly to see arguements like 'she should be this because she's openminded' and 'she should be that because it's more probable'.
Alright?

Did you read the first post on this thread? Quitch especially said that there was no proof either way, but he wanted our opinion, and I quote: "I don't doubt that people have strong views on the matter, so express them here. Some sort of explanation for your view is, as ever, superior to the choice alone."

Why is it that you are entitled to say your opinion, But others are not?

I tried, but I simply can't keep remaining silent upon readin' about "open minded-ness" over and over.

There are a zillion comments in this thread implying that a person is somehow "appreciable" because he/she is "curious and open minded", and someone who's able to feel the True, Purest Love is able to feel it despite sex, race, age and ...bla bla bla.
Well, that kind of love it's not BETTER than mine. It's only different.
I can feel love for a person... affection, closeness.. friendship! Without feeling the necessity to touch/penetrate his body (desires that I, personally, can't feel for a male).
I can have the thing separated from sex. While this supposed "open minded-ness" seem to state that as soon as one feels something for another person, he/she should be ready to rush in bed with that one.
Is that "open minded-ness"?!! I'd rather call it sex-slavery.

Before the whole forum starts to flame me, CONSIDER: who's being offensive?
I say: people have different tastes and inclinations in every field of life.
TASTES. No moral values, no ethical progress tied with them. Tastes!
It doesn't bother me if one has different tastes than mine.
It does bother me if one says his/her tastes are better, more profound and more motivated than mine.
Peace  

Of course you are entitled to your opinion, and it's as good as anyon else's, but we are not in this thread to discuss our personal opinion on the nature of love and relationship, we are here do discuss those of Imoen.

This is also not about how we wish Imoen to be, but about how we think she is, there is a difference between the two.