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[crazyhybrid9999]

I was looking through the IE looking for an avatar for a might be upcoming mod. I was thinkin about creating a Goblin NPC.  Well searching through the .cre files i found some goblins but when looking at their race I noticed it did not say Goblin. It said either, hobgoblin, kobold, or gibberling.  So there is no goblin race.  I am thouroly confused. I even checked the Rangers racial enemies list.  NO GOBLINS. What a strange anomolie.

[crazyhybrid9999]

It is very strange that there is no Goblin Race.

[Andyr]

You would appear to be correct. BGII's RACE.IDS:

50

1  HUMAN

2  ELF

3  HALF_ELF

4  DWARF

5  HALFLING

6  GNOME

7  HALFORC

101 ANKHEG

102 BASILISK

103 BEAR

104 CARRIONCRAWLER

105 DOG

106 DOPPLEGANGER

107 ETTERCAP

108 GHOUL

109 GIBBERLING

110 GNOLL

111 HOBGOBLIN

112 KOBOLD

113 OGRE

115 SKELETON

116 SPIDER

117 WOLF

118 WYVERN

119 SLIME

120 FAIRY

121 DEMONIC

122 LYCANTHROPE

123 BEHOLDER

124 MIND_FLAYER

125 VAMPIRE

126 VAMPYRE

127 OTYUGH

128 RAKSHASA

129 TROLL

130 UMBERHULK

131 SAHUAGIN

132 SHADOW

133 SPECTRE

134 WRAITH

135 KUO-TOA

136 MIST

137 CAT

138 DUERGAR

139 MEPHIT

140 MIMIC

141 IMP

142 GIANT

143 ORC

144 GOLEM

145 ELEMENTAL

146 DRAGON

147 GENIE

148 ZOMBIE

149 SHADOW

150 LICH

151 RABBIT

152 GITHYANKI

153 TIEFLING

154 YUANTI

155 DEMILICH

156 SOLAR

157 ANTISOLAR

158 PLANATAR

159 DARKPLANATAR

255 NO_RACE

201 SWORD

202 BOW

203 XBOW

204 STAFF

205 SLING

206 MACE

207 DAGGER

208 SPEAR

209 FIST

210 HAMMER

211 MORNINGSTAR

212 ROBES

213 LEATHER

214 CHAIN

215 PLATE

In pnp, Hobgoblins, goblins, bugbears and so on are referred to as goblinoids so I assume the game puts them together for this reason.

[crazyhybrid9999]

Then why did i find goblins whose race was kobold. I even found one whose race was gibberling.

[Andyr]

BioWARE were sloppy coders?

Neither kobolds nor gibberlings are goblinoids.

[Galactygon]

The same applies to drow; they are simply elves with a NE alignment.

-Galactygon

[Caswallon]

Though regarding the Drow, that is kind of correct.

[Galactygon]

A debatable topic, but from a modder's perspective, it is illogical. For various reasons. ie. making them vulnerable to bright light but not evil-aligned elves.

-Galactygon

[crazyhybrid9999]

well I was thinking of making a joinable Goblin NPC, but there is no Goblin race so what the hell do I do.

[Andyr]

Make the game think his race is Hobgoblin.

[Galactygon]

Go to the RACE.IDS and add a new value to is (e.g. 99) and put 'HOBGOBLIN' next to it.

-Galactygon

[Chevar]

Go to the RACE.IDS and add a new value to is (e.g. 99) and put 'HOBGOBLIN' next to it.

-Galactygon

After adding Goblin into the IDS file, you'll have to make sure it's entered into the TLK file.. I don't remember what tool I used to do that when I made Draconians..