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#1 Xander77

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Posted 17 July 2004 - 02:30 PM

Yeah, it's fairly lame, but if we're having NPC rumbles and all that...

anyways, saw it Here and wondered if anyone can offer further arguments in NO's favour?
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Posted 17 July 2004 - 04:24 PM

Personally I would like to see NO attempt his 'you don't exist' argument on a IN<4 CO. If that is a repeat, blame it on my not wanting to read through 22 pages of tripe. :P

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Posted 17 July 2004 - 04:51 PM

Nah, that particular vs only appears on the last page.

And hey - I thought my Benedict vs any other sword wielder argument was very well made. :P
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Posted 17 July 2004 - 05:11 PM

Nah, that particular vs only appears on the last page.


So I noticed seconds after hitting reply. Such is the way of things...

And hey - I thought my Benedict vs any other sword wielder argument was very well made. :P


I'll try to blame it on my lack of sleep, but pray tell what are you referring to? Perhaps (assuming) your username regarding that topic might be of assistance?

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Posted 17 July 2004 - 06:13 PM

Well the Nameless One is a self resurrecting immortal, then Chosen One only has one life (unless the player reloads a previous save).

Given that the battle lasts until one of the two dies the "final death", it is inevitable that the Nameless One will ultimately come out the victor. :P

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Posted 17 July 2004 - 07:05 PM

As outlined in the link, realistically the CO would have access to weaponry and technology that could completely obliterate the NO's physical form. How to resurrect nothingness?

Realistically though, given the tone of PST, and the pleasant avenue of feasible diplomacy in FO2, I'd be willing to bet on the probability of the NO and CO sorting out their (apparent) differences over a <insert appropriate beverages> etc rather than resorting to violence. :P

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Posted 17 July 2004 - 11:00 PM

As outlined in the link, realistically the CO would have access to weaponry and technology that could completely obliterate the NO's physical form. How to resurrect nothingness?

Oh yeah! How could I have forgotten the Alien Blaster?

Oh well, my vote still goes to the Nameless One though, because his regenerating capability gives him more HPs to play with. :P

Fast Regeneration + Balance in All Things/Pain Mirror/Sadist Frame = Dead Chosen One regardless of equipment

Not even Power Armor would help against this strategy.


Also since all of the weapons that the Chosen One can use to destroy the Nameless One's body are ranged weapons. Power Word Blind will definitely shift things in the Nameless One's favor

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Posted 18 July 2004 - 11:04 AM

I would say Nameless One all the way, none of the weapons available to Chosen One could match his regeneration. (It also depends where their fighting)
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#9 Daggerless

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Posted 23 August 2004 - 04:42 AM

Goku would win :P

Goku always wins... :rolleyes:

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Posted 23 August 2004 - 07:28 AM

Goku would win :P

Goku always wins... :rolleyes:

well.... he's been beaten up quite alot really, (Raditz, Buu, Vegeta 1st time, Frieza ect ect...)
Anyway, Trunk's would dominate them all :nana:
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Posted 14 October 2004 - 12:38 PM

I would say Nameless One all the way, none of the weapons available to Chosen One could match his regeneration. (It also depends where their fighting)

Chosen One has stuff to kill people he ain't even met. even all stats of 25 would not save the NO from some good hails of vindicator minigun, for example.
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Posted 14 October 2004 - 07:43 PM

Well the Nameless One is a self resurrecting immortal, then Chosen One only has one life (unless the player reloads a previous save).

Given that the battle lasts until one of the two dies the "final death", it is inevitable that the Nameless One will ultimately come out the victor. :P

Or the battls would last forever (unlikely, but not impossible) :ph34r:
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Posted 14 October 2004 - 11:22 PM

I would say Nameless One all the way, none of the weapons available to Chosen One could match his regeneration. (It also depends where their fighting)

Chosen One has stuff to kill people he ain't even met. even all stats of 25 would not save the NO from some good hails of vindicator minigun, for example.

As I said before, "Balance-In-All-Things" would ensure the Chosen One's death since the Chosen One is hurt for the same damage with which s/he hits the Nameless One.

Besides, Ragnar's right about the location of battle. If they are fighting on a demi-plane or the negative material plane where they are the only ones alive, the very nature of the Nameless One's immortality would upon his 'death' snuff the life out of the Chosen One to restore himself. :P

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Posted 15 October 2004 - 02:25 AM

My level 100 mage level 50 fighter level 50 theif Nameless one with all stats at 25 and a +10 to his AC against ranged weapons wold kick Any Ones arse -_- they'll be :help: then :wall: then :blink: then :rtfm: and the nameless one would be B)
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Posted 22 October 2004 - 09:54 AM

Goku would win :P

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Posted 22 October 2004 - 03:21 PM

Goku would win :P

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doubt it. pikachu blasts the light out of him. :gun:

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We'll wait for a Super Smash Bros. Melee 2 to sort that out :P
Magus: "If history is to change, let it change! If their world is to be destroyed, so be it! If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!!"

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Posted 22 October 2004 - 04:06 PM

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#18 Dalis'ilhea

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Posted 02 November 2004 - 04:40 AM

That would be scary, it'd be all out warfare :gun: :gun: :gun: :gun: :gun: :gun: :gun: :gun: :gun: with a little :help: :o
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Posted 02 November 2004 - 05:22 PM

Even if TNO got desintegrated, I think the nature of his immortality would always find a way to bring him back.. as I see his 'essence' or whatever it is that keeps him alive (and you cant desintegrate something that doesnt phisically exists) would just crawl to the nearest living person, kill this person and turn the body into his, or something of the like, as such seems to be the way of the curse/blessing of TNO.

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Posted 03 November 2004 - 03:18 AM

His 'nature' (as far I believed I could be wrong) was that his body sought the mortalites or other living beings to temporaly replace what he is missing
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