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#81 Deathsangel

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Posted 19 June 2004 - 10:37 AM


I have mod with a Jester praying to Cyric, but if I'm correct he is the god of Death, murder and insanity. Lies are also a topic, but they are actually more for Basheba

Cyric is the god of Strife and Tyranny (inherited from Bane), Murder (Bhaal), Deception and Illusion (Leira), Intrigue (Mask). He was also the god of Dead (Myrkul) but has lost this portfolio to Kelemvor

I know him to be of death, murder and insanity thanks to BG 1 to be honest. I don't where I heard it anymore. Xzar might have said something in a banter or in a book or something? Will have to play BG1 for a while.

I know him to be indeed the Prince of Lies and they say; By the Black Sun of Cyric

In a link you gave it is stated that Cyric even killed Kelemvor, so I don't get that part aswell.

I don't know him to have either Tyranny nor Strife just like NiGHTMARE says.

Have to add though in my mod that he is god of Deception and Lies cause I haven't mentioned that anywhere yet. Just god of death, murder and insanity.

Edited by Deathsangel, 19 June 2004 - 10:40 AM.

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#82 Bane

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Posted 19 June 2004 - 10:42 AM

In a link you gave it is stated that Cyric even killed Kelemvor, so I don't get that part aswell


Yes, he killed Kelemvor with Godsbane but Kelemvor led a revolt or something in the city of the dead and was eventually became god of death (Cyric during this time went insane due to his book of lies).

I don't know him to have either Tyranny nor Strife just like NiGHTMARE says


Tyranny and Strife are part of Bane's portfolio. :) Bane was reborn by bursting out of his own demon son (who is now dead *hoorah*) so Cyric I don't think has those anymore.

Edited by Felstorm, 19 June 2004 - 11:31 AM.

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Posted 19 June 2004 - 10:49 AM

In a link you gave it is stated that Cyric even killed Kelemvor, so I don't get that part aswell


Yes, he killed Kelemvor with Godsbane but Kelemvor led a revolt or something in the city of the dead and was eventually became god of death (Cyric during this time went insane due to his book of lies).

Is this the reason why Cyric is also known as god of Insanity perhaps?

But Ao gave Cyric Death and Kelemvor never took it from him. Isn't Kelemvor god of Undead and Cyric of Death. As it in NWN the Dwarf Monk also says that Cyric, Bhaal and Bane all three have dead.

Bhaal and Bane are Dead (By the way did Bane ever had death. Is NWN wrong or did I just missed it?) so Cyric now owns that portfolio, right? .....wrong?

Edited by Deathsangel, 19 June 2004 - 10:55 AM.

Still modding the Mod for the Wicked... It is a big project you know... And I got sidetracked (several times) a bit... sorry.
However, as we all know, Evil never really sleeps.


Sentences marking (my) life:

Winds of change... Endure them, and in Enduring grow Stronger
It takes a fool to look for logic in a man's heart
Never question the sanity of the insane
The Harmony of Life is Chaos
Living on Wings of Dreams



(1st march 2009) SHS women over me:
Kat: if there were more guys that looked like you out here, people's offspring wouldnt be so damn ugly
Noctalys: you are adorable :P

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Posted 19 June 2004 - 11:22 AM

Kelemvor is the god of death and the dead. In no sense is he the god of the undead; he wants them gone. Cyric is the god of Murder. Bane was never the god of death, the dead, the undead, or anything related.
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#85 Bane

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Posted 19 June 2004 - 11:25 AM

Cyric (Greater Power)
Murder, strife, lies, intrigue, deception, illusion

He got murder from Bhaal, strife from Bane and deception and illusion from Leira. Bane has come back to life and I think he has taken the portfolio back. Lies and intrigue he prolly created himself

Edited by Felstorm, 19 June 2004 - 11:33 AM.

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Posted 19 June 2004 - 12:31 PM

Anyone know where the reborn Bane got fear from?

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Posted 19 June 2004 - 01:22 PM

Lies and intrigue he prolly created himself

He stole Intrigue from Mask.
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Posted 19 June 2004 - 03:06 PM

"When news of Bane's destruction during the Time of Troubles made its way throughout Faerūn, no fewer than thenty-seven nations declared national festivals of celebration and thankgiving." - Forgotten Realms - Faits and Phantoms

"Of late, clerics of Cyric have become a preferred sacrifice, though old favorites such as Paladins, unicorns, childeren, and celestials remain popular with traditionalists." - Forgotten Realms - Faits and Phantoms

lovable guy...

would have thought Torn gaimed +2 DR just for the praise after slaying that one...

About the "fear" comming into hes domains, i belive they just put it there better to explain hes "character/personality" i have to admit it fits. Dont remember who (if any) had fear before.

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Posted 19 June 2004 - 09:48 PM

Didn't reborn Bane get fear from his son who died when Bane was reborn?
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Posted 20 June 2004 - 01:44 AM

Nope, Xvim only had tyranny and hatred.

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Posted 20 June 2004 - 05:45 AM

Grrrrr.....

Damnit I want to give this thread a thumbs up or something like that. This is the sweetest thread. When I come in here and read through this, it's like waking up and going through the morning newspaper for Forgotten Realms(which I think is cool).

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Posted 20 June 2004 - 06:04 AM

Does Bane play a noteworthy role in any of the books? If so, which ones?

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Posted 20 June 2004 - 06:10 AM

Ulik: The Avatar Series, also the Shadows of the Avatar series hes somewhere inthe background much of the time. also "Finders Bane" hes featuring a good bit.

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Posted 20 June 2004 - 07:02 AM

On Midwinter night, the god Bane returns to Faerun, bursting forth from the skin of his son, Iyachtu Xvim. With his divinity restored Bane quickly gains the portfolio of fear, restoring him to a Greater Power.


That's on the timeline, but it does not say why he gets Fear. I guess its because lots of people celebrated his death and now a lot of people fear his resurrection.

Edited by Felstorm, 20 June 2004 - 07:03 AM.

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Posted 20 June 2004 - 05:36 PM

Does Bane play a noteworthy role in any of the books? If so, which ones?

The avatar series and he was mentioned in Elminster: Temptation of Elminster as well. Not sure if he was again mentioned later on though.

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Posted 20 June 2004 - 05:49 PM

Perhaps Ao created Fear as a portfolio and just gave it to Bane, I can't think who had it before. :)
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#97 Deathsangel

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Posted 21 June 2004 - 03:25 AM

Cyric (Greater Power)
Murder, strife, lies, intrigue, deception, illusion

He got murder from Bhaal, strife from Bane and deception and illusion from Leira. Bane has come back to life and I think he has taken the portfolio back. Lies and intrigue he prolly created himself

But is it then that all Clerics of Cyric seem to have brain damage due to all lies?

Look at the cleric in the docks district for example

Still modding the Mod for the Wicked... It is a big project you know... And I got sidetracked (several times) a bit... sorry.
However, as we all know, Evil never really sleeps.


Sentences marking (my) life:

Winds of change... Endure them, and in Enduring grow Stronger
It takes a fool to look for logic in a man's heart
Never question the sanity of the insane
The Harmony of Life is Chaos
Living on Wings of Dreams



(1st march 2009) SHS women over me:
Kat: if there were more guys that looked like you out here, people's offspring wouldnt be so damn ugly
Noctalys: you are adorable :P

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#98 Cyric

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Posted 21 June 2004 - 04:29 AM

Cyric's clerics and other followers are not insane - just fanaticised (well, in most cases). A good example is Malik (el Sami yn Nasser) from the book 'Crucible: The Trial of Cyric the Mad'

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"How? By torturing that poor mortal to death?" asked Mystra. A glittering stream of magic separated from her radiance and streaked across the room to douse me. At once, all ray wounds and injuries vanished. "We all know you are cruel, Cyric. The issue is whether you are capable."
I saw at once that the harlot was trying to anger the One and get me killed, and so I cried, "What have you done? I have no use for a whore's kindness!" Next to the booming voices of the gods, my words were as a cricket's chirping, but I did not let flu's stop me. I spat toward Mystra's radiance, and I yelled, "A plague upon your Mysteries and your Order! They are as nothing to the Way of True Belief!"
A peal of Cyric's laughter knocked me from my perch and sent me plummeting to the floor, and as surely as this bruised my ribs, it also saved my life. In that instant, six lightning bolts from six different gods struck the bench where I had been standing. If none of these attacks came from Mystra, and if she did not revoke the magic that had healed my wounds, I am sure it is only because she feared the wrath of Our Dark Lord.
I am the whispers in your head
Letting you know you're the next one dead
I am the blade that cuts your skin
That forgives yourself for all your sin
I am the guilt that gnaws your soul
Corrodes the heart to a gaping hole
The hammers pounding all around
So you beat the walls to rid the sound
I am your memories, distorted and loud
That make you scream and shreik aloud
Yes, I make you crazy, it's all my fault
That we're here alone in this cushoined vault

#99 Deathsangel

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Posted 21 June 2004 - 07:54 AM

Cyric's clerics and other followers are not insane - just fanaticised (well, in most cases). A good example is Malik (el Sami yn Nasser) from the book 'Crucible: The Trial of Cyric the Mad'

Sorry but euh... not convinced. Certainly not because you state here Cyric the Mad. I reckon that be mad as in crazy :wacko:

Edited by Deathsangel, 21 June 2004 - 07:56 AM.

Still modding the Mod for the Wicked... It is a big project you know... And I got sidetracked (several times) a bit... sorry.
However, as we all know, Evil never really sleeps.


Sentences marking (my) life:

Winds of change... Endure them, and in Enduring grow Stronger
It takes a fool to look for logic in a man's heart
Never question the sanity of the insane
The Harmony of Life is Chaos
Living on Wings of Dreams



(1st march 2009) SHS women over me:
Kat: if there were more guys that looked like you out here, people's offspring wouldnt be so damn ugly
Noctalys: you are adorable :P

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#100 Cyric

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Posted 21 June 2004 - 09:10 AM

Sorry but euh... not convinced. Certainly not because you state here Cyric the Mad. I reckon that be mad as in crazy  :wacko:

'Mad' because the story of the book is taking place in the time after Cyric reads the Cyrinishad and temporary loses his mind. Later he is cured by Malik.

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"The truth is that I am still a more worthy god than any of you!" The One spoke with a full mouth, and he smacked his lips between words. "And that is why you are all jealous."
Thinking my plan had failed, I cried out in despair and flung myself to the floor.
But Cyric continued, "I must admit, however, that I am no more powerful than any of you." The One turned my heart over as though he would take another bite, then seemed to think better of it and thrust the juicy thing somewhere inside his hauberk. "That was a delusion of the Cyrinishad. A happy delusion-" here, the One glared down at me-"but a delusion nonetheless. We can all agree that I am better now."

Edited by Cyric, 21 June 2004 - 09:13 AM.

I am the whispers in your head
Letting you know you're the next one dead
I am the blade that cuts your skin
That forgives yourself for all your sin
I am the guilt that gnaws your soul
Corrodes the heart to a gaping hole
The hammers pounding all around
So you beat the walls to rid the sound
I am your memories, distorted and loud
That make you scream and shreik aloud
Yes, I make you crazy, it's all my fault
That we're here alone in this cushoined vault