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[Feanor]

In fact, what happened with Bane ? He was killed during Time of Troubles, but he returns in 1371... Where from ?

[Bane]

In Xvim (his son) who during the time of troubles was kept under Zhentil Keep Bane had kept a portion of himself within his son so that when he died he could be reborn so he ends up bursting out of his son (that is definetely the way I would like to go the LEAST .

[Stone Wolf]

I tried to find a list of 7 lost gods, but the closest I found was a list of dead deities in the Guide to the Astral Plane. Most of the dead FR gods were on it (though I didn't see Mystra), and there were also other gods from other worlds.

[Feanor]

According to official FR timeline, Waukeen escaped in 1370 DR and returned in Toril, retaking her portofolio from Leira.

[Stone Wolf]

According to official FR timeline, Waukeen escaped in 1370 DR and returned in Toril, retaking her portofolio from Leira.

There's actually a module where you can rescue her. Talk about brownie points!

[NiGHTMARE]

Also, Garagos has since returned to life.

[Arachnos]

Would you care to explain how Amaunator is'nt dead and is now a she. My copy of F&A says that the Big A is adrift in the Astral after dieing of neglect (and may/may not have been reborn as Lathander, who is a god of rebirth/renewal)

[NiGHTMARE]

I can't find anything like that in either 2E or 3E books. Are you sure it wasn't a piece of fan-fiction or something? The native tribes of Anauroch do still worship Amauntor as At'ar, but he doesn't (i.e. can't) grant them any spells.

Not related to what you said, but instead what "Guest" said - the Earthmother wasn't actually a seperate deity, rather an aspect of Chauntea. When Bhaal killed the Earthmother, she was therefore simply reabsorbed into the greater whole.

[Stone Wolf]

I coldn't find anything stating that Amaunator is still aroung either. My "Guide to the Astral Plane" listes big A (I hate typing that name) as being one of the corpses in the Astral. It might be more active than most other corpses if big A still has a few worshippers, but big A would still be unable to interact with anything consciously.

Reviving a dead power is even harder than killing one, since you have to convince people to worship a power that can't even grant spells, so it doesn't happen too often.

[Feanor]

I coldn't find anything stating that Amaunator is still aroung either. My "Guide to the Astral Plane" listes big A (I hate typing that name) as being one of the corpses in the Astral. It might be more active than most other corpses if big A still has a few worshippers, but big A would still be unable to interact with anything consciously.

Reviving a dead power is even harder than killing one, since you have to convince people to worship a power that can't even grant spells, so it doesn't happen too often.

I've heard that Amaunator was an old aspect of Lathander.

[Stone Wolf]

That's the one. I see you have quite an extensive library and memory, Nightmare!
I'm sure At'Ar is a she, and is currently doing a soap-opera thingy affair with someone.

According to the Faiths and Avatars book, "At'ar does not exist. She is but a twisted memory of Amaunator." No spells, no miracles. She is, supposedly, cheating on her husband with another god, but since she doesn't actually exist...

It also mentions a theory about big A becoming part of Lathander, but then goes on to say that the truth is that big A died, plain and simple.

[NiGHTMARE]

Ah yes, I didn't really read Amauntor's entry very thoroughly .

At'ar is seen as a spiteful and faithless woman whose fury in the full day strikes fear into the bravest hearts.  She is a harlot who betrays her lawful husband Kozah every day to sleep with N'asar, god of night and the dead.  The cautious regard the Bedine have for At'ar has never brought them any answer to their prayers, however, because At'ar does not exist.  She is but a twisted memory of Amauntor, the ancient Netherese god of law and the sun, derived from tales that the migrant ancestors of the nomadic Bednine were told by survivors of the fall of Netheril.

Interesting titbits: Kozah is actually Talos (being pretty much the very emboidement of chaos, he's hardly "lawful"), and N'asr is the dead god Myrkul (whose portfolio included "dusk" and "the dead")

Over the centuries, many theories have been put forward by later scholars as to what ultimate fate Amauntor met.  Some believe he was either absorbed into or become Lathander, others that he turned bitter and became At'ar, and yet others assert that he turned his back on Faerun and entered the pantheon of the lands of Kara-Tur or simply moved on to other crystal spheres.  The truth is that with the loss of nearly all his followers in Netheril after its fall, Amauntor began the long, arduous, and painful process of dying of neglect.  After about a millennium, he did not have enough power left to maintain the Keep of the Eternal Sun on Mechanus and was ruthlessly exiled to the Astral Plane.  His corpse now drifts with endless astral tides, awaiting a day when some ambitious spirit may help him regain his once-proud heritage.

[LordKableNikon]

I always had the theory that the lost gods were these...

1. Jergal
2. Garagos
3. Moander
4. Shaundakul
5. Ghaunadar
6. Shar and Silune (as one diety) (remember in the FR book they split at one time)
7. Amaunator or Loviatar(said Loviatar is Ao's Sister in a source book)

Edited by LordKableNikon, 01 October 2004 - 09:56 PM.

[LordKableNikon]

sorry I double posted so I edited this one so yah I have to modify it, sorry.

Edited by LordKableNikon, 01 October 2004 - 09:55 PM.

[NiGHTMARE]

Shar and Selune were never one deity. I believe you're thinking of Beshaba and Tymora, who were originally aspects of the goddess Tyche.

I can't find anything saying Loviator is Ao's sister, and it's unlikely considering she's a relatively new deity. Even if she Ao's sister, she's certainly not lost.

BTW it's interesting how the lost gods aren't really lost .

- Jergal gave up most of his portfolio (and consequently most of his clergy), but he's very much still around and still has a handful of worshippers.

- Garagos was killed (by Tempus), but has now returned.

- Cultists who worship Moander have tried to free him (his avatar was trapped beneath a ruined temple) multiple times, but recently he seems to have been permanently killed by Finder.

- Shaundaukul lost many worshippers in a similar way to Amaunator, but recently he's started building up his clergy. My personal theory is that he's worshipped in other worlds besides Aber-Toril, and some recent event (likely Beshaba's attempt to impersonate him) has brought his attention back to the Realms.

- Ghaundaur lost most of his worshippers because he either killed them or turned them insane, but now he has a growing following amongst the Drow.

[Bane]

- Ghaundaur lost most of his worshippers because he either killed them or turned them insane, but now he has a growing following amongst the Drow.

Why the hell would he do that, is he just stupid or....just stupid?

Loviatar being Ao's sister is a joke

Edited by Felstorm, 02 October 2004 - 07:16 AM.