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[GreyViper]

I assume you mean just the greater powers of the Forgotten Realms? Currently (1373 in the Realms), there's Angharradh, Corellon Larethian, Moradin, Yondalla, Garl Glittergold, Akadi, Bane, Chauntea, Cyric, Grumbar, Istishia, Kelemvor, Kossuth, Lathander, Mystra, Oghma, Shar, Silvanus, Sune, Talos, Tempus, and Tyr.

No mention of CHARNAME, bhaal spawn wanabe. Hes not mentioned anywhere so I asume he gave his portfoile away? Btw I havent read the Bhaal saga books so mybe it was cleared there.

[NiGHTMARE]

An ascended CHARNAME would almost certainly be a demipower, not a greater power .

[jester]

I don't know how current this is, but it always helped me out:

http://www.daggerfor...ford/frgods.htm

[NiGHTMARE]

I believe that list's pretty much accurate, though it still lists Waukeen as missing and doesn't even mention Velsharoon. And it spells 'dwarven' as 'drawyen' .

[Feanor]

An ascended CHARNAME would almost certainly be a demipower, not a greater power .

Why ?

And, in general, when a human becomes a deity (for instance, Cyric), what his rank depends of ? I mean, what criterias decide if that human becomes a demipower, lesser power or something even more powerful ?

[NiGHTMARE]

Your divine status depends entirely on the number of worshippers you have. Cyric rose in rank so quickly because he took most of Bhaal, Bane and Myrkul's old followers, but since the PC isn't replacing any gods, he wouldn't have any such luck.

There are a still a handful of Bhaal worshippers who didn't switch to a different god when he died, and they may well convert to an evil CHARNAME once he ascended, but they're very few in number.

So if the PC wanted to start of as anything less than a demipower, he'd have to go around gathering worshippers before he ascended. Otherwise he'd have to work his way up the ranks.

[BobTokyo]

So if the PC wanted to start of as anything less than a demipower, he'd have to go around gathering worshippers before he ascended.  Otherwise he'd have to work his way up the ranks.

Start with a little light turning water into wine, maybe a small thunderstorm or two, smiting the slightly annoying (can't just start off with the wicked, that takes serious mojo), maybe onto some plagues of mice (cheaper than rats, and easier to transport) . . .

Then, on to the mid-level industrial godding. Helping forgetful people find their keys, school-children who need to pass tests or get picked for a team, the healing of hang-overs, weight loss counselling . . .

Then, if CHARNAME is lucky, HE/SHE gets HIS/HER chance! It's Trademeet United playing agains Nashkel and the game is close! Adams is looking quite good today, but both Beckham and Schmeichel will be playing for Trademeet, and the crowd smells blood! Only a miracle will let Nashkel win right now, the cry goes up to the heavens, and CHARNAME is there! NASHKEL WINS! NASHKEL WINS! The fans start to riot, arms and legs everywhere, its madness! Oh CHARNAME, praise CHARNAME!

And that's how CHARNAME becomes a Greater Power.

Edited by BobTokyo, 02 July 2004 - 03:45 AM.

[Bane]

So how does the story of Baldur's gate go by FR, is the character evil or good in the books and does he give p the power?

I think he gave it up to be with Jaheira but I'm not sure tbh.

[Kish]

Ao worshipers exist, but no, no divine spellcasters--Ao doesn't grant spells.

Bhaal was never a Greater Power (he was Intermediate), so even if Ao made the PC immediately as powerful as Bhaal was, the PC would still not be a Greater Power.

[MERLANCE]

So how does the story of Baldur's gate go by FR, is the character evil or good in the books and does he give p the power?

I think he gave it up to be with Jaheira but I'm not sure tbh.

Abdel Adrian is a chaotic good fighter. I think.

He gives up the power, I cant remember why.

Imoen is murdered by Sendai, and Jaheira is dragon chow, so he didnt give up the power to be with either of them.

Abdel basically walks off into the sunset at the end of the book, to form his own legacy, and not being known as the bhaalspawn.

Edited by MERLANCE, 02 July 2004 - 12:57 PM.

[Andyr]

Ao worshipers exist, but no, no divine spellcasters--Ao doesn't grant spells.

I read somewhere that Ao recently removed knowledge of his own existence from the minds of non - deities, so they do not even know of him any more.

But definitely, yeh, there have been cults of Ao. Even though, as Kish says, he doesn't grant spells.

[Ragnar]

So how many divine ranks would the Lady of Pain have in Sigil?
I know she has no worshipers there so would she be anywhere near the power AO has?

[Xaositect_Crayon]

ehhh the lady is a plot device to keep the twinks at bay.... you can maze anyone who is trying despite all your efforts to be a munchkin and say the lady did it.....

[Bane]

in Neverwinter nights: shadows of unrentide there is a small cult of ao worshippers in the araunoch desert. They simply follow out of faith rather than possible rewards.

[Andyr]

The Lady of Pain has no divine ranks.

[raptor]

The Baldurs Gate series doesnt seem to hold any influence over teh happenings in FR; in other words it doesnt seem like they included it much in the story. I recal i saw Bhaal "made hes move" on the timeline, but that was about it.

The mentioning of those books brought back bad memories, i only ever read the BG1 book, but its the only book ever i have been happy someone actually stole from me.

[NiGHTMARE]

Actually, there are a few events in the BG novels that are cannon. For example, IIRC Entar Silvershield being assassinated is considered part of the official timeline.

[Feanor]

Before Time of Troubles, what criterias decided the power of a god ?

[Bane]

I guess it was what power Ao actually gave them, their mortal power would depend on how many mortals they could win over to their side.

[Kish]

The breadth of the god's portfolio. Greater Powers covered massive concepts and didn't care how many worshipers they had.