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[Dalis'ilhea]

Different, definitly different

[raptor]

Well defeting an AVATAR wont defet the god. The god could send more avatars, Avatars are just a manifestion of the gods will. the more powerfull the god the more powerfull the avatar (usually). To kill a god totally is a bit more tricky.
Well the "stats" as you say for the gods are really more for the occational high level play. ocationally you do need some stats. (example the official campaign where you save Waukeen)

Once again, i agree that most persons would retire their characters sometimes before lvl20 at least, (or should, depending). But there are those that are more interested in hacking things to bits than roleplaying and when there is nothing else to keep them hacking, send in a few avatars.

different people/players/dm's different tastes.

EDIT: anyone want a good way to kill of a bunch of Munchkin players, let Mystr and Tempus temp ally against palyers and send one avatar of each. usually enough to stopp anything. Mystra makes tehm unable to use magic at all, and Tempus just really rules the combat.

Edited by raptor, 15 June 2004 - 08:56 AM.

[Feanor]

A lesser power can have 2 avatars at the same time, an intermediate power 5 and a greater power 10.

To kill a god totally is a bit more tricky.

By the way, how could you kill a god ???

[raptor]

You would have to face the god in their home realm and defeat them there, note that in their own realm they are rather though, especially since entire realm is usually an extension of their will. this aplies for any god with own realm at least. even trickier with most of teh good/neutral gods, like say for example you wanted to kill Torm, then you find Ilmater and Tyr guarding him.... oops!

EDIT: /me whacks faulty ramchip with a IBM harddrive!

as far as i know, it has only been accomplished twice (Forgotten Realms). once when the three mortals named Bane, Bhaal and Myrkul sought out and challenged the god Jergal to take hes power. and Second time when Mystra, Oghma, the then non godly Kelemvor and a few others i dont remember atm charged down into the realm of teh dead to Dethrone Cyric, he fled rather than fight. There might be more but those are the ones i have seen. Time of Troubles was something completelly different.

EDIT: Cyric, yeah i was just about to edit that in .... about lack of followers....

Edited by raptor, 15 June 2004 - 09:26 AM.

[Cyric]

Or you could wait for the next Time of Troubles

edit:

Well a god can die by lack of worshipers too (Amaunator)

Edited by Cyric, 15 June 2004 - 09:25 AM.

[NiGHTMARE]

A lesser power can have 2 avatars at the same time, an intermediate power 5 and a greater power 10.

Also, the more powerful god, the less time it needs to replace an avatar that's been destroyed. An entire year for a demipower, a month for a lesser power, a week for an intermediate power and only a day for a greater power.

[Daggerless]

Don't forget Shar is something like the second oldest deity in all of Aber-Toril, being older than the world itself, etc.

Kelemvor: I'd say 16 or 17.

Correllon: 18 or 19?

Torm: 8 or 9?

Good calls: Kelemvor 16, Correllon 19 and Torm 8.

[Bane]

Yep, Torm is pretty lame in value, oh well, I still like him anyway

How many worlds do the gods take charge over? Is it just Aber-Toril or are there others?

[NiGHTMARE]

Most of the worlds in the D&Dverse have gods, though they're not neccessarily the same gods. Both Oerth (Greyhawk) and Krynn (Dragonlance) have virtually no deities in common with the Forgotten Realms.

There are some worlds that don't have any gods, f.ex Athas (Dark Sun), and AFAIK no deities have power in the void between solar systems (called "crystal spheres")

[Necaradan]

Aren't crystal spheres universes or at least galaxies?

Does Spelljammer take place in the void between spheres or inside the spheres?

Where is it rumoured that Ravenloft exists, I think it can be reached from anywhere

I heard somewhere that Chaos was rumoured to be the brother of Ao or something and the being that talks to Ao at the end of te Avatar series is the DM

Edited by Necaradan, 30 June 2004 - 02:26 PM.

[NiGHTMARE]

Crystal spheres are basically the D&D equivalent of solar systems.

Spelljammer takes place in both; it would be a bit boring without any planets, and they obviously need to cross something to get from one sphere to another.

Ravenloft is another plane of existence (or rather, demiplane), and can be reached from any other plane of existence which it's connected to. This includes the Prime Material Plane, where Aber-Toril, Krynn, Oerth, Athas, etc are located.

Ao's master being the DM is only one interpretation, though it seems to be the most popular.

[Bane]

Can anyone tell me who all the greater powers currently are?

Also their alignments pls, thanx

[NiGHTMARE]

I assume you mean just the greater powers of the Forgotten Realms? Currently (1373 in the Realms), there's Angharradh, Corellon Larethian, Moradin, Yondalla, Garl Glittergold, Akadi, Bane, Chauntea, Cyric, Grumbar, Istishia, Kelemvor, Kossuth, Lathander, Mystra, Oghma, Shar, Silvanus, Sune, Talos, Tempus, and Tyr.

[St. Josephine]

This isn't really a question about a god but about his followers (close enough on be on topic, I hope): can priests of Gond be of any race or must they be gnomes?

[Bane]

This isn't really a question about a god but about his followers (close enough on be on topic, I hope): can priests of Gond be of any race or must they be gnomes?

They can be any, I have read of human priests/priestesses of Gond

[NiGHTMARE]

Gond is actually primarily a human deity. Many gnomes worship him as well, but they tend to call him Nebelun. Dwarves don't tend to worship Gond because they have their own deities of invention and creation, particularly Moradin and Dugmaren Brightmantle. Similarly, elven artisans and designers generally worship either Corellon Larethian or Hanali Celanil, and halfling crasftsmen have Cyrrollalee and Yondalla.

Edited by NiGHTMARE, 01 July 2004 - 03:46 PM.

[St. Josephine]

Ah, that clears things up a bit. Thanks for the info.

[fallen_demon]

Are there any/is it possible to have, clerics/paladins/rangers/druids/monks that follow Ao directly?

[Shadow Angel]

If I remember correctly after AO revealed his/her existance during the time of troubles, a few people tryed to worship him. The church died out swiftly because AO didn't grant spells or powers to the worshipers. And they tended to die fast.

Edited by Shadow Angel, 01 July 2004 - 10:22 PM.