Any support - be it an idea or technical help - would be highly appreciated!
Missing HLAs
Started by T.G.Maestro, Feb 04 2004 02:57 AM
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Posted 04 February 2004 - 02:57 AM
Refinements's HLA system still lacks the conjurer HLA. I'd like to hear your ideas and suggestions on this one, since I'm kinda stuck with it right now. V1 is near completion, so it would be nice to finish this component in the following week.
Any support - be it an idea or technical help - would be highly appreciated!
Any support - be it an idea or technical help - would be highly appreciated!
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Posted 04 February 2004 - 12:25 PM
I know a possible one ~ Elysium's Fires from PST
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Posted 04 February 2004 - 03:42 PM
I'll consider that , thanks.
, thanks.
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Posted 05 February 2004 - 11:44 AM
Problem solved. It will be Animate Magic Golem.
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Posted 05 February 2004 - 02:02 PM
do you think that fits? because you dont summon a golem. you animate it. i think a powerfull summon spell fits more...
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Posted 05 February 2004 - 02:32 PM
To be honest, just having pure summons spells is kinda lame, adding support spells for the current summons may be a more viable option.
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Posted 05 February 2004 - 02:33 PM
like an aura? something that benefits all summons under the casters command?
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Posted 05 February 2004 - 02:45 PM
Plausible, the problem of looking at offensive/defensive HLA is that the support monstors either become totally underpowered/overpowered. By adding complimentary spells for the summons, some sort of balancing might be obtained.
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Posted 05 February 2004 - 04:05 PM
An idea I had was creating a rift/conjuring various types of inner planar matter. Opening a rift to the (para/quasi)elemental plane of smoke, or fire, or magma, or positive energy, or negative energy all have rather nasty consequences to anyone who comes in contact with it. Also, if the spell is done as a rift type spell, then the rift can be used like a wall. One drawback would be that the matter would affect anyone who came in contact with it.
Also, on further reflection, animating a golem seems to fit more for a transmuter (alteration) than a conjurer.
Also, on further reflection, animating a golem seems to fit more for a transmuter (alteration) than a conjurer.
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Posted 06 February 2004 - 04:44 AM
Animation as opposed to summons, I tend to agree there.
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Posted 06 February 2004 - 09:38 AM
Well, then we change it to Summon Magic Golem or Conjure Magic Golem. Anyway, I kinda like this summon (it has its most interesting features, believe me ), so it will stay for now.
But don't be afraid: we will boost kits with at least 2 additional new HLAs to make their HLA selection more unique. So keep those ideas coming!
), so it will stay for now.But don't be afraid: we will boost kits with at least 2 additional new HLAs to make their HLA selection more unique. So keep those ideas coming!
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Posted 06 February 2004 - 09:52 AM
Do you intend to have all the conjurors HLA as summons or will my earlier msuggestion be ignored? 
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Posted 06 February 2004 - 09:57 AM
No, those suggestions were quite good. Thats why told you to keep them coming. I like Caedwyr's idea too, some kind of Rift (Negative Plane Rift as an example) will be in v2.
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Posted 06 February 2004 - 09:59 AM
By the way Seif, take a look at the revised Elemental Princes, if you want more interesting summons... 
Or maybe the Solars/Fallen Solars of Divine Interventions...
Or maybe the Solars/Fallen Solars of Divine Interventions...
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Posted 06 February 2004 - 11:41 AM
Wouldn't it be more interesting if you tried some other spells.... not just the repetitive summon, protection, damage spells?
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Posted 06 February 2004 - 12:41 PM
hey, what about party projected images. the whole party would be pied. 
or power word: slow&confusion&malison
aura of summoning: every summons moves faster, hits harder, more hp and there is a chance that every summon spell wont be removed from memory (or that two creatures arrive)
summon shopkeeper
or something like summoning a gang. not one monster that is boring every summon spell summons one monster but a gang is cool. something like a human killer gang that fights everything that is non-human (i mean demons, undead but not elf ect). a mage/sorc, an archer, a thief, a fighter and a berserker. if possible not controllable by player. yeah, this is a must.
or power word: slow&confusion&malison
aura of summoning: every summons moves faster, hits harder, more hp and there is a chance that every summon spell wont be removed from memory (or that two creatures arrive)
summon shopkeeper
or something like summoning a gang. not one monster that is boring every summon spell summons one monster but a gang is cool. something like a human killer gang that fights everything that is non-human (i mean demons, undead but not elf ect). a mage/sorc, an archer, a thief, a fighter and a berserker.
if possible not controllable by player. yeah, this is a must.
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Posted 07 February 2004 - 04:27 AM
Nice.aura of summoning
I might use the projectile I've created for Lingering Songs. That and IDS targeting, should work.
I'd say, something reapplied every round in the area of effect, maybe a boost to MR...
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Posted 07 February 2004 - 05:30 AM
Hey, please. Please don't tell me that you haven't discovered those "more interesting and different" spells/innates in the list...Wouldn't it be more interesting if you tried some other spells.... not just the repetitive summon, protection, damage spells?
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Posted 07 February 2004 - 08:37 AM
Err...Hey, please. Please don't tell me that you haven't discovered those "more interesting and different" spells/innates in the list...Wouldn't it be more interesting if you tried some other spells.... not just the repetitive summon, protection, damage spells?
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Posted 07 February 2004 - 10:10 AM
Most of the stuff is allredy there in the spells/innates list. Its realy there but not quite in the same form you want them.QUOTE (T.G.Maestro @ Feb 7 2004, 03:30 PM)
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Wouldn't it be more interesting if you tried some other spells.... not just the repetitive summon, protection, damage spells?
Hey, please. Please don't tell me that you haven't discovered those "more interesting and different" spells/innates in the list...
Err... ?
