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[Grim Squeaker]

Well these are my only guesses:

1) This isn't Tsu's script so its not finding the LOCAL variable. How from the looks of it, it probably is Tsu's script...

2) Which dialogue file is your conversation in? J or B? Coz using Interject(Player1) will trigger from the B file...

3) You already have something earlier in the script that triggers off of being at Global("TsujathaLoveTalk","LOCALS",51) and maybe calls something else (like the other dialogue file).

[Sillara]

Well, it is Tsu's script, and it is in the B file. It is LT #26, and I do not think anything else triggers from it.

My LTs continued after this because, apparently not finding that talk, it pulled the class-specific banter for my PC and used that. For some reason, that still kicked up the Locals, and the LTs went on from there. Argh. LT #26 is not the most pivotal LT, but I liked it. It ONLY works outdoors at night, though. Otherwise it makes NO sense. Argh again. Back to the drawing board. (Or should I say coding board?)

Sillara

[Sillara]

Mysteriously silent NPCs! I have non-joinable NPC whom you are supposed to meet and talk to get my NPC-specific quest. He spawns correctly, but when I approach him, he has "nothing to say to" me. I do not understand why.

The silent NPC's DV is FLAN. Coded into my NPC's B file is the following:

CHAIN
IF ~See("Flan")
!StateCheck("Flan",STATE_SLEEPING)
Global("TsujathaFlanBrel","GLOBAL",0)~ THEN BTSUJAT TSJ_TsuFlanTorture
~Blah.~
DO ~SetGlobal("TsujathaFlanBrel","GLOBAL",1)~
== BFLAN
~Blah.~

There is a BFLAN.dlg, which is assigned to Flan.cre. That also contains lines for him, but nothing that occurs before this dialogue. In fact, they are coded to occur afterward, like this:


IF ~See(Player1)
!StateCheck(Player1,STATE_SLEEPING)
Global("TsujathaFlanBrel","GLOBAL",1)
Global("SPOILERDELETED","GLOBAL",0)~
THEN BEGIN TSJ_HurryUp
SAY ~Blah.~
IF ~~ THEN EXIT
END


CHAIN
IF ~See(Player1)
!StateCheck(Player1,STATE_SLEEPING)
Global("TsujathaFlanBrel","GLOBAL",1)
Global("SPOILERDELETED","GLOBAL",1)~
THEN BFLAN MoreSpoiler
~Ah. Success. Blah?~
END
++ ~XXX~ GOTO MoreSpoiler1a
++ ~XXX.~ GOTO MoreSpoiler2a
++ ~XXX.~ GOTO MoreSpoiler3a

CHAIN BFLAN MoreSpoiler1a
~Blah.~
== BTSUJAT
~BLAH!~


And it goes on from there. That is all that is in BFLAN, the one short dialogue and the CHAIN. Everything compiles. I checked to make sure that the BTSUJAT was looking for the correct DV, which it is. I do not know what else to check. Is there something I just do not know which I need to do? Or is there some error in this of which I am unaware?

Sillara, nervously hoping that her post has passed muster according to the new ground rules of the Help

[Sillara]

How do I do this if what I want is a conversation between my NPC and the non-joinable? I want the PC to be able to interject, of course, with the decision, but the conversation should be between the NPCs. I want it to go something like this.

Tsujatha: So it is you, non-joinable!
NJ: Yes, it is I! What are you going to do about it?
Tsu: I'm going to beat you up!
PC:
1. That's a great idea!
2. No, don't.
3. Let me get the popcorn!

Obviously that is not the real dialogue, but you see what I mean. The PC responses would then lead to more conversation between the two NPCs, and then more choices. I got it to compile properly using CHAIN, but I had to have two B files for that. I noticed that people like Bodhi have B files, so I figured it was all right to do that--but I am regretting it now. I am utterly lost as to what the problem can be. I have tried to put it together in a non-Bfile way, but can you CHAIN to that? I do not think you can, so I have been trying to work it another way. And I cannot figure out how to do it. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated!

Sillara

[Grim Squeaker]

Its not so much that BODHI has a B file... its that her dialogue filename happens to begin with a B!

All you need is a dialogue file that is assigned to non-joinable character and you can do CHAINing with it. Just work it as you would with any banter...

[Sillara]

I think I get it. I just hope that it makes a difference when I code it in. . . . If it does not, I am in trouble.

Sillara

[Melkor]

Not that hard to do. Here's something I did.

BEGIN ~NPCINTS~

IF ~InParty("Shinayne")
See("Shinayne")
Global("cmtraitor","GLOBAL",0)~ THEN CMANDREA AndreaTalk
CMANDREA = ~Hi.~ DO ~SetGlobal("cmtraitor","LOCALS",1)~
CMSHINJ = ~Hi~
CMANDREA = ~blah blah.~
CMSHINJ = ~same here!~
CMANDREA = ~cool.~
END CMANDREA ItsTime

APPEND CMANDREA

IF ~~ ItsTime
SAY ~<CHARNAME> talk.~
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~ok~
EXIT
END
END

[Sillara]

Thanks! I will keep trying. If I get it to work, I'll let you know!

Sillara

[Grim Squeaker]

Not that hard to do. Here's something I did.

BEGIN ~NPCINTS~

IF ~InParty("Shinayne")
See("Shinayne")
Global("cmtraitor","GLOBAL",0)~ THEN CMANDREA AndreaTalk
CMANDREA = ~Hi.~ DO ~SetGlobal("cmtraitor","LOCALS",1)~
CMSHINJ = ~Hi~
CMANDREA = ~blah blah.~
CMSHINJ = ~same here!~
CMANDREA = ~cool.~
END CMANDREA ItsTime

APPEND CMANDREA

IF ~~ ItsTime
SAY ~<CHARNAME> talk.~
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~ok~
EXIT
END
END

Ermmm... your syntax seems a bit off. Coz if its meant to be a CHAIN then you skipped the word CHAIN from the start of it...

And btw I'd write that like this:

BEGIN ~NPCINTS~

CHAIN IF ~InParty("Shinayne")
See("Shinayne")
Global("cmtraitor","GLOBAL",0)~ THEN CMANDREA AndreaTalk
~Hi.~
DO ~SetGlobal("cmtraitor","LOCALS",1)~ 
== CMSHINJ ~Hi~
== CMANDREA ~blah blah.~
== CMSHINJ ~same here!~
== CMANDREA ~cool.~
== CMANDREA ~<CHARNAME> talk.~
END
++ ~Ok.~ EXIT

[Sillara]

And he now talks! Thanks, everyone!

Of course, I still have that mysterious cutscene problem, and I cannot understand why my second area .baf, identical to the first in coding, does not function. Nor why, when I CLUA in the missing people, they will give their correct dialogues, but the variables will not set. So that is a problem.

Sigh. Still, progress is progress. Beta dangles before my nose like a carrot, if I could only get these enormous bugs out of the alpha!!!

Sillara

[Sillara]

I could have started a new topic, but I thought it seemed close enough to go in here.

I am currently working on the TOB portion of the banters/dialogues for my NPC, and I have reached the Imoen ones. I know that in TOB Imoen can initiate dialogues, but I was wondering, is she Imoen or Imoen2? And, actually, in SoA, isn't she Imoen2 after you pick her up from Spellhold? So if my NPC wants to initiate dialogue with her the check for who is InParty should be for Imoen2, not Imoen, right?

Thanks!

Sillara

Edited by Sillara of the Tamari, 15 May 2004 - 12:41 AM.

[Grim Squeaker]

I could have started a new topic, but I thought it seemed close enough to go in here.

I am currently working on the TOB portion of the banters/dialogues for my NPC, and I have reached the Imoen ones.  I know that in TOB Imoen can initiate dialogues, but I was wondering, is she Imoen or Imoen2?  And, actually, in SoA, isn't she Imoen2 after you pick her up from Spellhold?  So if my NPC wants to initiate dialogue with her the check for who is InParty should be for Imoen2, not Imoen, right?

Thanks!

Sillara

Correct. Post-spellhold you check for Imoen2 and not Imoen - this includes ToB. Even Black Isle cocked up that one!

Edited by Grim Squeaker, 15 May 2004 - 08:31 AM.

[Sillara]

Does anyone know of anything that can cause a cutscene to begin, but never end? That is, cutscene mode starts, but no one moves, nothing happens, and the only way to escape is alt+F4? This happens with EVERY cutscene in my mod. I have no idea why this happens.

My cutscene triggers look like this:

CHAIN BTSUJAT KorganSqueakie1b
~With pleasure, <CHARNAME>.~
DO ~ClearAllActions() StartCutSceneMode() StartCutScene("TSJ_KILLKORGAN")~
EXIT

That is the end of a banter in the B file. It compiles properly, and the cutscene will BEGIN, but then the problem begins.

My .baf looks like this:
IF
True()
THEN
RESPONSE #100
CutSceneId("TSUJATH")
Wait(1)
SmallWait(5)
FaceObject("Korgan")
SmallWait(5)
ActionOverride("Korgan",FaceObject("TSUJATH"))
ForceSpell("Korgan",WIZARD_DISINTEGRATE2_IGNORE_RESISTANCE)
Wait(1)
EndCutSceneMode()

END


That is the entire file. Is there a problem somewhere that I do not know about? It is not only this cutscene, though. They all have this same problem. Any help is appreciated.

Sillara

[Kismet]

StartCutScene("TSJ_KILLKORGAN")~

I don't think a .bcs file name can be that long. Try making the cutscene script file name no more than 8 characters.

[Sillara]

Yay! Kismet, you have solved my cutscene problem!!!!

The only two big problems I have left are:

1. He stutters. After LT 38, wherein I set a variable (TsujathaVirgin) or (TsujathaNotVirgin), he begins to stutter. The only thing I can think is somehow the variable is causing it, as other than that, the LT is the same as all the rest. At another point I set another variable (TsujathaChaste) or (TsujathaNotChaste). I do not think that that is causing a problem, but I cannot be sure, as it occurs after he is already stuttering.

2. My non-joinables in AR 1005 are still not showing up. The others show up fine, but not those!

Does anyone know anything about stuttering bugs being caused by setting variables?

Sillara, the perplexed

[Rastor]

Sometimes, doing a complete shut down then rebooting your computer can fix that stuttering problem.

For number 2, if you start a brand new game and then go to AR1005, do they show up then?

Edited by Rastor, 18 May 2004 - 11:13 AM.

[Sillara]

I haven't started a new game, but I do keep a save from before I entered that area. They never show up.

Sigh.

I am pretty sure it is not my computer causing the stuttering because other alpha testers have experienced the same thing.

I have a theory about my Anomen conflict dialogue that I will try out. If that fails, I will be back.

Sillara

[Kismet]

Stuttering is usually caused by a faulty script. If you can't see the problem by just looking at the script then put in some debugging code and see what falls out.