11 replies to this topic

[JohnBob]

Hello,

 

here is the very small french translation of Quallo114.

 - For the English version I think the first sentence @1 has a mistake: (This is Charname speaking)

@1 = ~To win the blood of a true friend I would have to kill my friend. Since I would like to keep my friendship, however, this I would like to avoid. Do you see a way out from the dilemma?~

 - I propose but without certitude, I am not good enough in English:

@1 = ~To win the blood of a true friend I would have to kill your friend. Since I would like to keep our friendship, however, this I would like to avoid. Do you see a way out from the dilemma?~

 

It is quite possible that this error is also in other translations, if I am not the one who makes a mistake of course!

Edited by JohnBob, 21 June 2022 - 12:58 PM.

[jastey]

This is not a mistake, but maybe a problem with expressing what is meant. The PC knows that for fulfilling the quest, he should kill a friend but doesn't want to risk one of his/her friendships this way. So he/she is asking Quallo what to do.

That's correct phrasing for me. The moment the PC is asking, he doesn't know that he wil kill Quallo's friend. And the PC isn't Quallo's friend so phrasing concern that they want to stay friends with Qually wouldn't even make sense imho.

EDIT: I'd rather suggest a rephrasing of the sort:

 

@1 = ~To win the blood of a true friend I would have to kill a friend. Since I would like to keep all my friendships, however, this I would like to avoid. Do you see a way out from the dilemma?~

 

Edited by jastey, 20 June 2022 - 08:26 PM.

[JohnBob]

Hello Jastey,

 

When i translate the deutch version, i got :

 

-"To gain the blood of a true friend, I would have to kill your friend. But since I also want to be a true friend to you, I would like to avoid that. Do you see a way out of this dilemma?"

 

After Quallo explain how to get the blood of a true friend, when you come to him and say @1, i though Charname understand what he/she has to do and want to spare Quallo from sadness...

 

So i was thinking that a error of translation has come in the way (i suppose the original moddeur is german...)

 

-(here my french translation revert to english : "To get the blood of a true friend, I would have to kill your friend. But since I don't want to make you suffer my friend, an alternative would suit me well. Do you think you can solve this dilemma?")

 

But it's your native language, so you know better and I'm really not enough experienced !

 

Thanks for responding !

Edited by JohnBob, 21 June 2022 - 10:21 AM.

[jastey]

You are right there. For translation from German (the original language), your translation would be correct.

EDIT:

~Um das Blut eines wahren Freundes zu gewinnen müsste ich Euren Freund töten. Da ich Euch aber auch ein wahrer Freund sein will möchte ich das vermeiden. Seht Ihr einen Ausweg aus dem Dilemma?~

 

~To gain the blood of a true friend I would have to kill your friend. But I also want to stay a true friend to you and hence steer clear of doing that. Do you see a solution to the dilemma?~

Edited by jastey, 21 June 2022 - 10:58 AM.

[maus]

Well, also line @4 should be different: 

 

@4 = ~Consequences for myself? Not my cause, finally everyone has to rely to oneself. I'm sorry for your loss.~

 

For the other languages I have not the necessary language skills to proofread them. 

 

And thanks for taking care of the translations  

[JohnBob]

I wasn't sure if the author was intentionally cryptic on @4, but you right it's probably an error of translation !!!

 

- Italien : seems similar to the proposal of Jastey.... for @1 and for @4 translator seems to have cut the part "ist sich jeder selbst der Nächste".

 

@1 = ~To win the blood of a true friend I would have to kill a friend. Since I would like to keep all my friendships, however, this I would like to avoid. Do you see a way out from the dilemma?~

 

- Spanish : seem to have the error for @1 and for @4 sentence seem cut too.

 

- For russian translation, I have no idea...

 

But I can't propose alternatives either...

 

 

French translation with change for @4...
 quallofix.french.rar   1.13K   78 downloads

Edited by JohnBob, 21 June 2022 - 01:00 PM.

[jastey]

Welcome back, maus! Let us know if you want us to do anything with your mod.

 

Thanks Headbanger for taking care in the meantime and updating! Only the translation to English could have been done with more care. The translation of @4 honestly doesn't make any sense.

 

This is what I propose for the English version:

 

 

@1 = ~To gain the blood of a true friend, I would have to kill your friend. But since I also want to be a true friend to you, I would like to avoid that. Do you see a solution to the dilemma?~
@2 = ~Because you have also proven yourself as a true friend of mine, some of your blood should suffice.  But I warn you.  If you, <CHARNAME>, give some of your blood, you will be weakened for good. How do you decide?~
@3 = ~The noble deed shall be worth it.~
@4 = ~Consequences for me? Not my cause. In the end, everyone has to fend for themselves. I'm sorry for your loss.~

maus:

 

And thanks for taking care of the translations

Sneeeaky!

Edited by jastey, 21 June 2022 - 09:58 PM.

[jastey]

The other languages wold need to be proof read accordingly. Lines @1 and @4 especially.

[JohnBob]

Hello,

Thanks Maus for this little mod...

I would like to know if some additions could be possible...

- an additional line if the PC asks quallo what to do with the blood after accepting to take his own blood.
(For the moment the answer of Quallo is the same as if you kill his friend)

-Add an item "Charname's blood".
(for more realism)

- Is it complicated to adapt it for EE's or is it enough to change the tra to utf8 (or add iconV) ?

If Maus finds it relevant of course !

Edited by JohnBob, 25 June 2022 - 12:02 PM.

[jastey]

- Is it complicated to adapt it for EE's or is it enough to change the tra to utf8 (or add iconV) ?

That should suffice, yes.

 

I'm thinking about making the Quallo content of Alternatives an optional component, so this mod can be installed instead if the player prefers.

[JohnBob]

 

That should suffice, yes.

 

I'm thinking about making the Quallo content of Alternatives an optional component, so this mod can be installed instead if the player prefers.

Thanks Jastey !

 

Here the archive with :   quallo115.rar   1.77MB   85 downloads

 

-new translation for english (by Jastey) and french translation.

 

-Add iconv to tra folder for bg2, bg2ee compatibility

 

-Add HANDLE_CHARSETS fonction (borrowed from Branwen npc) and french entries to .tp2

 

Spanish, Russian and Italian translation need proofreading !!!! (Lines @1 and @4 especially.)

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Based on the English translation by Jastey !

Spoiler

@1 = ~To gain the blood of a true friend, I would have to kill your friend. But since I also want to be a true friend to you, I would like to avoid that. Do you see a solution to the dilemma?~
@2 = ~Because you have also proven yourself as a true friend of mine, some of your blood should suffice.  But I warn you.  If you, <CHARNAME>, give some of your blood, you will be weakened for good. How do you decide?~
@3 = ~The noble deed shall be worth it.~
@4 = ~Consequences for me? Not my cause. In the end, everyone has to fend for themselves. I'm sorry for your loss.~

 

or the original German version by Maus !

Spoiler

@1 = ~Um das Blut eines wahren Freundes zu gewinnen müsste ich Euren Freund töten. Da ich Euch aber auch ein wahrer Freund sein will möchte ich das vermeiden. Seht Ihr einen Ausweg aus dem Dilemma?~
@2 = ~Da Ihr Euch auch als ein wahrer Freund von mir erweist, sollte etwas von Eurem Blut genügen. Aber ich warne Euch. Wenn Ihr, <CHARNAME> etwas von Eurem Blut gebt, werdet Ihr für immer geschwächt werden. Wie entscheidet Ihr Euch?~
@3 = ~Das soll mir die edle Tat wert sein.~
@4 = ~Konsequenzen für mich? Lieber nicht, im Zweifel ist sich jeder selbst der Nächste. Tut mir leid für Euch.~

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Spanish

Spoiler

@1 = ~Para obtener la sangre de un amigo de verdad, tendría que matar a mi amigo. Me gustaría mantener mi amistad, sin embargo, me gustaría evitarle. ¿Veis una salida a mi dilema?~
@2 = ~Debido a que también os habéis probado a vos mismo como un verdadero amigo mío, algo de vuestra sangre debería ser suficiente. Pero os lo advierto. Si vos, <CHARNAME> dais algo de vuestra sangre, os veréis debilitado por siempre. ¿Qué decidís?~ ~Debido a que también os habéis probado a vos misma como una verdadera amiga mía, algo de vuestra sangre debería ser suficiente. Pero os lo advierto. Si vos, <CHARNAME> dais algo de vuestra sangre, os veréis debilitada por siempre. ¿Qué decidís?~
@3 = ~De acuerdo, será útil para mí hacer una acción noble.~
@4 = ~En este caso, yo preferiría que no. Mis acciones os causará dolor.~

 

Russian

Spoiler

@1 = ~Для получения крови истинного друга мне нужно было бы убить моего друга. Однако, мне хотелось бы также сохранить мою дружбу, и я хотел бы избежать насилия. Вы видите путь из этой дилеммы?~
@2 = ~Поскольку вы тоже доказали себя моим истинным другом, небольшого количества вашей крови должно быть достаточно. Но я предупреждаю вас. Если вы, <CHARNAME>, дадите часть своей крови, то будете ослаблены. Что вы решите?~
@3 = ~Для меня это будет благородное деяние.~
@4 = ~А почему мне нужно страдать, а? Сомневаюсь, что ближние в этом мире помогают своим ближним; скорее, они перегрызают друг другу глотки. Так что помогать тебе мы не будем.~

 

Italian

Spoiler

@1 = ~Per ottenere il sangue di un vero amico dovrei uccidere un amico. Poiché vorrei mantenere l'amicizia, tuttavia, vorrei evitarlo. C'é un modo per uscire da questo dilemma?~
@2 = ~Se dimostri di essere anche un mio vero amico, un pò del tuo sangue sarà sufficiente. Ma ti avviso. Se tu, <CHARNAME> dai un po' del tuo sangue, sarai indebolito per sempre. Cosa decidi?~
@3 = ~D'accordo, sarà utile per me fare una nobile azione.~
@4 = ~In questo caso preferirei di no. Le mie azioni ti causeranno sofferenza.~

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-No change for version number in the .tp2 and readme file.

Edited by JohnBob, 26 June 2022 - 02:36 AM.

[jastey]

Thanks.