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[Azazello]

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Again some really good points you bring out.
 
Appreciate your critiques.

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You've recently played the mod, so pls confirm-- is PC already considered a Shadowmaster, or on track to be one after finishing the mod? I thought it was the latter. (Doesn't the normal stronghold make the PC a Guild Master?)

I do remember feeling the same way when first playing the mod, that's there's alot of grunt work being given to PC even as a future shadowmaster. But I chalked it up to the Guild testing for worthiness.

There's no debate that in terms of the reality of the game-World, this is not how the Thieves' Guild or any beholden thief would do these things. Unless a power war was going on between the TG and other city powers: in this case, the final mission would make more sense.

Perhaps this is how the mod could be revised and expanded, helping to explain the actions here.

So I agree, that is where the mod fails - in context of the game world.
 

...and resembles baldur’s gate.

Not sure what jab you're hitting at with that part, but it does reminds me of something -- doesn't the mod follow the same flow (which you would also critique) that the Thieves' Guild in vanilla BG1 gives the PC-as-a-Thief as missions?

... yup, "Narlen's Heist". The stakes are much lower, so there's less to criticize here.
 
This might have been what Blucher intended- to extend this theme of involvement by the Guild from BG1 into BG2, via the stronghold missions.

 
Cool. We agree & disagree.
 

Spoiler

For me, I still stick with my recommendation--the mod is a 'Should Play' (not a 'Must Play'): the content --despite its flaws in  context-- fits well into the BG2 flow, plays well even on its own merits, and makes for a nice touch as an extension of the vanilla thief stronghold - which is exactly what it was meant to be.

 
 
Keep those reviews coming!

Edited by Azazello, 15 July 2019 - 08:29 AM.

[Sergio]

Imoen Romance [BG2] -->Top notch mod, definitely recommended. 
 

So far, the good:

Spoiler

IMOEN PERSONALITY. The mod adds meaningful and really well done banters to Imoen. There are also a lot of banters with other characters (bringing aerie with you will actually lock or unlock new endings).

The content added matches the personality of Imoen and in general, according to me it can actually be confused for original content: I would say that someone could read this statement as pretentious given that Imoen has no personality in BG2 (and one could say *she was an afterthought, she was supposed to die*, etc etc) but you got the idea.

SUITABLE BANTERS. There is a banter that is particularly dark in tone, but I think it was masterfully executed. Honestly, by being so graphic it left me with a fizzle in my stomach, but honestly I do not regret it being there and I think it actually added to the characterization of Imoen. Also, it makes you hate Irenicus even more, probably fixing a (little) flaw this game has: while there are bad things that happened to you and Imoen  under Irenicus, they are left to imagination, hinted at most. What if you could face a piece of the truth?  The fact is... very bad things happened while you were under Irenicus control and the mod will remind you of that.

COMPLEXITY. The mod is really complex. It has a tons of epilogues, lots of different choices on what you can do: Will you marry Imoen? What’s your alignment? Is Imoen friend with Aerie? Did you ascend or not?
Did you ascend while being evil but Imoen is still good? Will you share your godhood with Imoen? Damn!!!

IMMERSION. Lot of new scenes and Imoen inserting herself into the things going on, like:
Druid acorn quest resolution.
Lavok.
Athkatla Mage intervention.
Druid Grove Challenge.
Unseeing Eye
Gong Quest.

What about ToB? The mod actually inserts itself without feeling out of place. I was actually surprised by the fact that even ToB content is good.

So, having said all of this, why am I not into it?

THE BAD.

Spoiler

A premise: I am completely and I mean completely ignorant about technical issues fixing when it comes to modding. In fact, if you go into Roxanne’s forum, you will find a topic made by myself where I actually ask her how to troubleshoot this or that issue.

Well, with Imoen Romance I had a tons of technical issues..... A few example:

1) In Spellhold, I would get a “no valid links or replies” when trying to tell Imoen about my friends.
2) After leaving the underdark, you’re supposed to get a cutscene if you are far enough with the romance. Well, I didn’t get the cutscene. As such the romance halted and I had to straight out begin ToB anew to force the romance to be there (by using the summoning spirit and telling to summon Imoen first, then telling her how much I love her).
3) When going to Saradush’s tavern, I had an issue with the cutscene. The game would just linger still.

So far, that’s what it meant literally for my game:
1) Soa Romance incomplete
2) Being forced to Start from ToB – you choose how – if by importing or by making a straight out new character
3) Avoiding choosing new options.

So.... I don’t know if the mod is bound to have issues because it is really really complex, but in some ways it should be made more bugproof, even with workaround added that can actually makes you actively avoid the issues.

Example related to case 1: the cutscene that is supposed to start after the underdark. Why don’t you add a failsafe option where you can talk to Imoen to make it start?
Example related to case 3: Why would it get stuck?

 

 

So.. how to avoid these technical issues? It’s easy, don’t use huge compilations and focus in little to no (mod-added) content for your playthrough. This way, you are totally sure you won’t be missing anything relevant for the mod, because this has to be tasted and experienced in all his majesty. It would be a snub to yourself not to try it. But know that technical issues may arise and make you pissed with it.

Go for it!
 

Edited by Sergio, 26 May 2019 - 09:39 PM.

[Isewein]

Thanks for the reviews. I would just advise you to specify more clearly when you play "unofficial" versions of these mods adapted by Roxanne - as you see with Blucher's Expanded Thief Stronghold, they frequently introduce new bugs, change the story or refocus it around Sandrah Sue. It's not fair on the original authors to not make that distinction clear.

 

That being said, I have to agree with your scathing reviews of most older quest mods. They simply don't integrate themselves seamlessly into the BG experience, and are pretty much only worth it nowadays if you can't get enough of IE experience and/or wish to explore them as objects of historical interest. We have to remember that many of them would likely have ended up as standalone modules in the NWN fashion had this been more easily implementable in BG at the time, so they bear little connection to the main game.

 

Personally, I enjoyed DSotSC and Askavar at least, and would recommend them to new players. As long as you're not a die-hard completionist, these mods offer new side quests which can easily be ignored if not found to your liking, without imbalancing the main game too strongly or detracting from its story and atmosphere. The same, unfortunately, can not be said of the other mods. Fishing for Trouble is very well executed and has gorgeous areas, but due to the flaws pointed out by you it really does feel like a chore rather than a game. Additionally, SoA is already so stuffed with sidequests that my tolerance for more might be lower than in BG1. Regarded on its own merits FFT may even be better than DSotSC, but it integrates itself less well.

[Sergio]

Care to explain what were the changes added by Roxanne to Blucher's Expanded Thief Stronghold?

I checked some old reviews and the content seem to match: https://sorcerers.ne...d-review.57148/

Edited by Sergio, 23 May 2019 - 05:16 AM.

[Isewein]

I don't know for sure (never played Roxanne's version), but K4thos just mentioned it above and it has happened with many other mods before.

[Fouinto]

I don't know for sure (never played Roxanne's version), but K4thos just mentioned it above and it has happened with many other mods before.

K4thos said that Roxanne has changed Expanded Mage Stronghold (or whatever the name of the mod) : Indeed, she has, in particular, removed the whole ending (maybe the last 20-25% of the story) and even more !

However, about Expanded Thief Stronghold, maybe she has changed things,but I have not noticed a single change.

 

Edit : I agree that the use of unofficial mods should be stated.

Edit : BTW, Thank you for the reviews !

Edited by Fouinto, 23 May 2019 - 10:40 AM.

[Sergio]

Shards of Ice -> I don't recommend this mod. Only the third component may be worth it to some of you, but I don't care about it.

Spoiler

The mod is made by three components:

1) Price of friendship. You sleep once in the Trademeet inn and Imoen disappears. You get no notification that this happened, not even a self-dialogue telling "Imoen seems to have disappeared this night. Perhaps it is better to ask the innkeeper for more informations". 

You ask the innkeeper, a taven patron, then go to the major and I didn't enjoy at all the options you have while talking to the major.  

Major: = ~Let me guess... you're here about Imoen, aren't you?~
@29   = ~Yes, sir.  I beg of you to release her to my custody.  I promise that she'll not break the laws of Trademeet again.~
@30   = ~The little brat causes me too much grief.  Nevertheless, she is good with a bow and one can never have enough fodder.  Please release her to me.~

You free imoen, she tells you she will give back your money and then you're done

No point installing this component.
 

Second component: Some of my best friends are slime

You meet this girl in the forest of Tethir that asks you to get her a slime figurine she was given by a lass he met time ago. You kill him in the north forest (no dialogues at all with the lass) and then you bring the figurine back.
The area seems to be a leftover, and adding content that just makes you lose further time... leaves me meh. 
To find the questgiver, go left-bottom.




Third component: You Could Restore the Summon Cow Spell, But Why?

This is the last component. It is good not because you can get the summon cow spell (that I find cheesy as heck) but because Lucy the wyvern turns into a shopkeeper that sells the following items:

- Algernon's cloak
- The Wolfsbane charm (https://www.google.c...Q4dUDCAo&uact=5)
- The claw of Kazgaroth

Still, I'm not into more items for BG because you drown so much already with all the ones already available. 

So, I won't install this mod anymore. 

Edited by Sergio, 29 December 2019 - 01:22 AM.

[Azazello]

BG1 - Unfinished Bussiness

First component ...

Not a propitious start!

 

But the component wasn't included until apparently the EE era of the mod: http://forums.pocket...ic,29556.0.html

Edited by Azazello, 01 June 2019 - 11:20 AM.

[Sergio]

Vampire World --> not recommended. 

Version played: 0.50

Check here: http://www.shsforums...r-eet/?p=606454

Edited by Sergio, 24 June 2019 - 05:16 AM.

[The Imp]

Vampire World --> not recommended. 

Version played: 0.50

There is not much to say:  I met a lot of bugs.

And you can't produce a weidu.log to even provide a base info of possible conflicting mods. Sure.

And Bodhi was a "She". So ...

[Sergio]

Alternatives [BG2] -> Play it once and see if it matches your taste. In my case it didn’t.

 

I played this mod time ago, so what I remember isn't exactly fresh, but there is a poet that tells you that things should be reviewed after they are filtered by your mind and become memories. And to be honest, I think that this mod may be the best candidate for this kind of review.

 

 

What this mod intends to do 

Spoiler

As the title suggests, you can now ask:

> the paladins for their help in reaching spellhold.

 

Or why not... 

> forget about Imoen and go to Maztica? A npc will offer you the chance to avoid all these hassles and propose to leave behind you all the pressing matters you may have. If you are into roleplaying, this part of the mod can offer new insights to your <charname>. A certain Charname may not care about Imoen or maybe he is afraid of Irenicus.  Or maybe he doesn’t care about either. You decide.

 

 

Review

 

                                                              Paladin route

The readme tells everything you need to know: «Yes, the "Paladin Route" is unoriginal. It was never intended to be otherwise, as it was designed for the protagonist who wants to go in, get the job done, and get out without compromising his morals along the way».

 

I will explain better: you just kill the guilds for the paladins and you are done with it. Someone may enjoy this part but I can live without. Also, I completely forgot about it, even if I played it a couple of months ago.

 

                                                            Maleficus Route

 

I think this route is well done. The quests are creative and to be honest I would like to have it in all my games. But... there is an issue. This is spoiler heavy, so don’t read if you plan to play the mod.

 

Spoiler

 

After you’ve finally done all the quests for Malficus, you are brought to Spellhold via Samoen. Unknowingly to Charname, Malficus is working for Bodhi. But escorting you in this mission is Sime. So... I think this is not coherent at all with bodhi’s character and attitudes.

 

In vanilla games, you get Sime only if you work with Shadow thieves. For Malficus, you destroyed the whole thieves guild ... and now Sime is working for Bodhi? 

 

At the point of arrival, you get (as any ordinary BG2 game) ambushed by Vampires; Sime tells you: «I am sorry for the deception. If it gives you any comfort, Malficus was merely following the orders of his employer, Bodhi, a powerful and demanding mistress. Again, I can only appologize that the lies were necessary. Regardless, you are here now, so I suggest you make the most of it».

 

This opens a can of worms. 

As explained by Arthas in G3: 

Seems weird that she gets hired again by Bodhi and is so eager to please and actually blames Saemon and tells you who Malficus was working for... After all, I doubt very much Malficus would tell her who she works for or actually get in touch with him for work given his background
A personal note: I think Sime should just be removed altogether, because Saemon doesn't need someone to watch his back. He keeps his word, when he is sure that it can get in a even worse mess. He would not avoid doing his job, given the consequences that he would face. And he already knows both Bodhi and Irenicus, so...

 

Edit: does anyone know why some of my spoilers do not close?

 

Edited by Sergio, 28 June 2019 - 01:49 PM.

[jastey]

Edit: does anyone know why some of my spoilers do not close?

You mean it's not only my scriptblocker again? No, I don't know.

 

Thank you for the review. The funny thing is, that when playing the "paladin route" for the first time, my LG HC couldn't agree to just stomping in an killing all Shadow Thieves as a righteous task. Yes, they are evil, yes, they murder and are in slave trade etcpp. but just stomping in and killing everyone inside didn't seem like a righteous task. Also, would this mod be in beta still I'd vote for at least take on the vampire guild first. Right now, the righteous paladins ask to destroy the guild who is fighting off the vampire threat first, which comes off as a bit weird if thinking about the long run.

I totally understand why the mod was designed the way it is - using the present possibilities and making something new out of it, but it doesn't really work for me. My HC couldn't shake the feeling that the Order of the Aster is a bunch of holier-than-thou vigilantism warriors.

[Sergio]

Honestly I thought about it a bit and I'm pretty sure that you are acting more than a zealot rather than a paladin by killing the shadow thieves.

Willing or unwilling, they were opposing a bigger evil: going in and destroying the shadow thieves guilds first, then the vampire guild, means you would leave a power vacuum in the city that may attract unwanted attention to the city itself. 

 

[The Imp]

Honestly I thought about it a bit and I'm pretty sure that you are acting more than a zealot rather than a paladin by killing the shadow thieves.
Willing or unwilling, they were opposing a bigger evil: going in and destroying the shadow thieves guilds first, then the vampire guild, means you would leave a power vacuum in the city that may attract unwanted attention to the city itself.

And you don't think they couldn't fill in that role ? That power vacuum wouldn't exist if the zealots controlled the people. Aka, it can always be filled in with bad people. See inquisition.

[Sergio]

Honestly I thought about it a bit and I'm pretty sure that you are acting more than a zealot rather than a paladin by killing the shadow thieves.
Willing or unwilling, they were opposing a bigger evil: going in and destroying the shadow thieves guilds first, then the vampire guild, means you would leave a power vacuum in the city that may attract unwanted attention to the city itself.

And you don't think they couldn't fill in that role ? That power vacuum wouldn't exist if the zealots controlled the people. Aka, it can always be filled in with bad people. See inquisition.

I'm not too much into D&D so you're free to correct me (or AD&D in this case). From what I know D&D world is a very harsh world...

Now you are in the capital of Amn, getting asked to kill who who knows how many people (many) by a paladin guild and this honestly strikes me as pretty weird. I doubt very much mass murders would be tolerated in Athkatla, basically circumventing the justice system and taking the matter on your own hands. You tell me, hey maybe they got the placet of someone that is high in powers, but.... I’m still not convinced.

Said this,

> The paladins are acting, as I said, unlawfully.

> Making them able to go in and just cleanse the thieves guild, would make the other factions actually go mad (read other factions as the other temples). You’re telling me that now paladins are free to decide the fate of the factions inside the city? For which reason? Because they are paladins? Who autorized them?

> The factions seem weak, at least in vanilla game. Or at least I envision them as such, because they are simply unable to solve even the simplest matter (the rise of the Beholder god) and general lack of help to thieves. It’s true that thieves resort even to bad stuff, like ambushes where they ask you the gold and so on, but nothing comparable to the risk of a rising vampire guild inside one of the most populated cities.

> The thieves (seem to) have a code. You are supposed to behave in a certain way and the area is actually watched by thieves (see the dialogues with Yoshimo). So you’re not going inside Athkatla without having a watchful eye over you and I’m pretty sure that if things go wrong in some way, they would be especially willing to report to higher powers in the city that a certain guy\girl is doing bad stuff.

> Finally, the killing of both guilds to make them subbed by paladins would leave a vacuum. Which group is now the strongest? And are you sure that the others would just accept what happened?

> Not only that, are we sure that the paladins are not getting manipulated by a third faction to do their bidding? Because I wouldn’t expect such a behaviour from paladins.

> Add to that....There are actually factions, even mentioned, inside the city (see Mae’var quests). You are not doing any good to the city, because who knows if someone else would just migrate to the city and try to pose a new order. And this time it won’t be thieves guild, maybe it would be a cyric cult doing their stuff with a base inside the old residence of thieves. And you’re telling me that killing both guilds is a good idea?

> Last thing... you are killing thieves. And you expect that no one would come in and try to kill you or murder you? I would actually say that the fact that no one comes to you after you’ve killed the thieves for the vampires, is that the vampires are actually draining everyone that even comes near to you. Right after you emerge from the underdark, no sane person would try to actually kill <charname>.
But before taking the ship with Saemon? A paladin path would be straight road to hell. Killing so many people would send ripples all over the city and informations about what happened and who did that would surely be spread by the paladin guild and you would be probably starting BG1 again with a nice reward on your head gently offered by the thieves guild.

Now, I seem to remember a more elegant solution for the thieves problem was added by the questpack, where you get asked by Inspector Braga to solve the matter, but I don’t remember if you just get asked to kill Aran Linvail and be done with it. If that’s the case, please forget what I just said in this statement.

Honestly, the more I think how things were executed, the more I’m curious about the third path added by Vlad. There is only one way I would go for such a path: you kill both on your own accord and not because someone else told you to do so. <charname> may get pissed he is getting both monitored and manipulated. Honestly, I would get a bit frustrated knowing that I’m a pawn of the two guilds, to the point where I’m getting a proposal by a vampire (that is interested in me for who knows which reason) and a guild that stalks me and knows I’m having contact with said vampire, only to actually lower the price because they are afraid the vampire proposed me a better offer.
You say that I’m forced to go with one of the guilds? I don’t truly think so, I will die by my hands and I will take the matter in my hands. If you think you’re fooling around with me, you are not going to have a easy life. I may take the hardest path, but it is the path that I’ve chosen for myself, and not the path chosen by others for me.

Edited by Sergio, 12 September 2019 - 05:06 AM.

[Sergio]

Assassination [BG2] --> an ok mod. Play it once and see if you enjoy it.

So, I had expectations for this mod. These expectations came from the name, “Assassination”. In my language, such a name has a “dark tone” and I thought it was content for evil players (the addition of a reputation requirement strengthened my thought). But... I’m sorry to say I’m not sure the mod is targeted for Evil players.  

To sum up, these were the expectations I had for this mod:

1) Content for evil players;
2) Meaningful content: what I mean is that the quests I’m assigned should make me explore the thoughts of Charname and his behaviour: is (my current) charname only interested in money? Does he act honorably? Does Charname have  a personal code he follows? 

In D&D, murders do not have the stigma they have in real life. So, a CB charname or a NB charname could resort to murders, if given the chance. Even a paladin can do them.

The issue I found with Assassination is that rather than “assassinations”, most of the times you are administering justice, even if you are not resorting to the legal ways. The majority of people you are getting asked to kill all have evident flaws and ill will for others. This is a huge limit, because the whole story turns into a quest mod where you kill people without giving it a second thought, rather than a way to develop Charname and why he does what he does. Said this, the mod was able to stir a strong emotion in me for the second quest (a positive achievement, I assure you).

 

Technical note: In my playthrough, Jaheira didn’t react to the death of the two harpers.

Impression about 9th quest: I didn’t like the 9th mission.

Spoiler

You are tasked to kill an assassin named Kern. Your only clue to find him is to find his girlfriend. When you find her girlfriend, you discover that Kern is a proficient assassin and that the girl you are talking with is an ex-prostitute. Ex, because Kern is actually providing her with all she needs given that Kern loves her.
The girl tells you that he loves Kern, but she is getting sick (and scared) about the fact that he is an assassin and also she prays you to leave so that no more blood is spilled. It seems evident, that the girl loves Kern and would love to make him stop doing all these murders.

Right after the girl spill her beans, you meet Kern and you are told he knows your employer and is currently being hunted because he denied one of his order.

So you are now facing a mercenary (as you), that loves a girl (that loves him too). If you propose him to let him go, he is too scared about what may happen to his lady (for example, that his employer will just make a contract for killing his wife) and he tells you he can’t let you go.

                                        You got no choice: Kern, laconily, tells you to fight.

I’m not sure I buy this justification:

> By working with Lynn he knows that if you refuse an order, there is a chance you will get hunted by your same employer.

> Killing you would have no effect too. The same employer, even if you died, would just resort to hiring another assassin and sending him to catch Kern.

> “Sparing” <charname> would also mean he has bought more time for an escape plan.

> Seems weird that if you tell Kern to go, you would not let his girlfriend go or you would actually accept a contract for her lady later (that’s what he fears). Let’s be honest, I left him alive when he was a target and he is scared of a potential possibility that may never happen? Or that if happened, would not probably include me? (You know I let him go right, I don’t think my employer is going to give me again a quest concerning him).

> Also, there should be a chance to help him. at If you showed him understanding, he could try to ask you for your help.

So I’m not totally sure I’m alright with the way the quest is executed.

Edit: I still have to do the last mission.
Edit 2: Couldn't play last mission because it was bugged.
Edit 3: in the end I've also played the last mission. I started a new game in a modfree environment. To my dismay, I noticed that the mod railroads you. For example, I was playing a bloodthirsty charname this time - no matter what I did, I couldn't kill the target as soon as I met him, even if the dialogues seems to imply the option. You can't act the way you would like - you always have to follow the "fixed" trail - so if that means that two guards have to get spawned, they will get spawned, no matter which dialogue option you choose. 
Same for the dialogues: even if you want to kill the target as soon as it happens, they will appear no matter what.  

 

All in all, I guess I enjoyed playing this mod, but I won't be installing it in my next playthroughs.
 

Edited by Sergio, 29 July 2019 - 03:19 AM.

[Sergio]

Back to Brynnlaw [BG2] --> Worth a try.

Story: You come back to Brynlaw to actually help someone who was tortured by Irenicus (and drained) exactly as you. The mod provides also with an evil path for the main quest.

I enjoyed the mod, but I won't be installing it again. There are a few things about the story that made me raise an eyebrow:

Spoiler

1) You are told that you have been chosen because you are the last wielder of “old devices that can unravel Irenicus’s dark ritual”, and as such, only you can operate them. This is honestly pretty weak. It’s not as you did anything in Spellhold (but getting drained) and in the mod’s ending, your “help” is actually not required.

2) You are told that Dora (the girl drained by Irenicus) is now the chief of a band of mercenaries she “formed” that actually terrorize Brynlaw. Now this opens a can of worms:

a) (personal opinion, as such debatable) if a human is drained, what actually happens? Judging by Vongoethe’s quest in ToB, you are not supposed to go around.

b) (another personal opinion) The player will probably think that the loss of her soul is linked with the way she behaves, given that she is not listening to her mentor and actually is conspiring with an old mentor that acted like a prick to her.
But in the end you discover that she acts the way she does because she is under a domination spell, subverting the expectations and actually even diminishing the impact. For Irenicus to “degrade” the game implies a lot of time has passed. But for a human? 

 

 

Edited by Sergio, 28 July 2019 - 08:56 AM.

[Sergio]

Sellswords [BG2] --->  Worth a try.

I’ve played the mod sellswords.  I enjoyed it and it could be confused for vanilla content.
It’s a little adventure and the dialogues made me smile.

It has, for me, a few limits:

>  The mod is full of little quests a bit too too lenient on giving xp. 

> Your questgiver can probe your mind and see if you lie or whatever. He tells you he can’t probe the matron mother mind because she is “shielded”. You are said it is probably due to an item she has, but I did not find such item and I don’t know if it  even exist or is only hinted at.

> Even if you are in a drow city, working with drows, the mod gives you no “evil” options for the main quest. You are working actively against a certain strong house inside the drow city, constantly taunted by the guy that gives you the quests, without being able to betray him to the matron mother.

All in all, I liked it, but I won't be installing it in my next playthroughs.

Another note: the matron, every time I used arrows, seemed to be able to reflect their damage unto me. 


Now that I think about it there is another thing...

Spoiler

you are said that the matron mother is plotting to ally herself with demons, as Ust Nasta tried to do. You are also hinted that there is a certain item that will be offered to the demon inside the treasury, but you find nothing of such value....
I mean, there are riches, that is true, but I doubt very much you could buy a demon with mere gold

Spoiler

There is also another thing that I would have liked to happen. In the end you are said that there is a reference to a demilich, but after searching for him, I couldn't find him  . I was left sad

Edited by Sergio, 28 July 2019 - 08:57 AM.

[Sergio]

Dungeon Crawl [BG2]--> ok mod, I guess.I doubt I will be reinstalling it in my next playthroughs.

 

So I’ve played Dungeon Crawl. It has a few creative ideas (final boss and dialogue with lich and beholder).  But I fear that the mod is mostly for the people that played Dungeon Crawl.
There is not much to say, really, especially because the mod is little in content. Suffice to say that I would have liked more dialogues (or a quest?) with quagis and a chance to actually talk with the lich about the product he is selling me, after I drank it.

Anyway, a little walkthrough:

1) if you go the good route, you can stop the good guys from opening the chest and get your 5k money. You will also discover the content of the chest. 
2) If you go the bad route, you will discover the content of the chest and you can also kill the “evil” party.

Spoiler

Some notes for (future) myself, in case I forgot about this mod:
> The lich sells you beer, the beholder sells you cheese (or at least he tells you so, because he seems to be a normal shopkeeper)
> the enemy "boss" is a demonic rabbit 
> the chest contains worthless pants.

Edited by Sergio, 12 September 2019 - 12:36 AM.

[ALIEN]

@Sergio This topic is wonderful! I will definitely refer to it for my next playground.