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Do we need weapon paperdoll shadows and why there's still none?


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#1 Creepin

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Posted 21 May 2017 - 07:20 AM

While learning myself to handle paperdolls I have noticed that weapon & shield paperdolls don't have a shadow attached to it. With a body having a shadow the result is somewhat immersion breaking in my opinion. This poor elf in the pic below has got hit by the issue the worst:
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This lack of weapon/shield shadows is obvious oversight in my opinion, so I started thinking if there's actual reason they were omitted. Even 1PP, while adding shield shadow, didn't touch weapon. Why? Was there a discussion somewhere some 10 years ago where community decided we don't need weapon shadows, was there some engine limitations perhaps?

Since I was trying to create weapon paperdolls anyway I digressed a bit to add some shadow to it to see if it will improve the overall impression. I am attaching the result here: what do you think, does these shadows add to or decrease overall perception of the paperdoll? Doesn't the shadows overload the image with excess details?
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Edited by Creepin, 21 May 2017 - 07:24 AM.

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#2 The Imp

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Posted 21 May 2017 - 07:54 AM

It's never a bad thing to have the shadows there...
But did I see a shadow there last time... nope. Why did I not see one, cause I play with 1920x1200 from 24" monitor, and I looked a picture that's ~1/4rth of the one in your spoiler ... there's not much to see unless "you look" for it. There, the immersion.. not the highest priority. :devil:

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#3 Creepin

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Posted 21 May 2017 - 08:15 AM

Haha, I see your reasoning. I have 24" too, but no matter the monitor size I always play BG in 800x600 to keep it closer to what I am used to since the beginning. And to make sure I don't miss some little details like, you know, shadows ;)

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Posted 21 May 2017 - 09:59 AM

It took me over ten years and this thread to realize there're paperdoll shadows in BG :)


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#5 Creepin

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Posted 21 May 2017 - 12:09 PM

It took me over ten years and this thread to realize there're paperdoll shadows in BG :)

I think this gives a hint regarding why shadows were never addressed before :D


Edited by Creepin, 21 May 2017 - 12:09 PM.

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#6 Sam.

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Posted 21 May 2017 - 05:50 PM

Try adding shadows to the longbow and 2-handed sword.  They cover the character's leg (in ToSC anyway), so if they look ok with shadows, I think adding them to the paperdolls would be a good idea and nice addition.


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