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[Roxanne]

Other question for Shauhana quest. Why is the staff with her stuff in the jailer's tank? Why did Vennegrat not take it?

Vennegrat is an usurper, he stole the jewel and the position from Shauhana's old mentor. He does not know about the staff's secret as such knowledge is given by an Arch shaman to his successor. He killed the old one and never received that insight. Shauhana knows the old lore from her journeys with the teacher.

[jastey]

Assassins and sex? Sounds more like Dark Horizons and BG1RE with enabling mature content.
You can see if you kick Sandrah out and still have the encounters that it's from another mod. Nothing from Sandrah mod appears if she's not in party.

bg1re doesn't add romantic interludes with Sandrah.

[Roxanne]

I have to echo what others have already said. I can tell that a lot of hard work went into this and I like the extra banter for the most part (though I dont like Sandrah and all the sex is over the top) but the mod seems to kill gameplay. It plays like a easy mode (even on insane) due to how overpowered Sandrah, wolf pet and assassin gear is (though I am not sure assassins are coming from the Sandrah mod). A +3 weapon the minute I leave Candlekeep and a +2 dagger just a few minutes later on Gorion? Why? Lets not forget Sandrahs is pre-equipped with BG1 end game gear. I love the mystery behind the dagger and all the lore addition and I want to keep playing it but I just dont see myself enjoying the combat. I would love to see a BG1 combat friendly version of this mod.

http://www.shsforums...254#entry600759 Look at post #5062.

I assume you selected a "tactical install* for EET?

It is something that should not be select-able in BWS but there is nobody left to change the old software. So until new-BWS becomes available, it is what we are stuck with (which is far better than having no support at all).

 

OR

If you want a tactical install with BWS for EET leave these mods out

- DSotSC

- SandrahNPC

- Dark Horizons

- Drizzt Saga

Edited by Roxanne, 07 March 2018 - 08:44 AM.

[Roxanne]

Just small questions, is there any NPC that stay after main saga to RtF? Of course beside Sandrah.

Nobody stays but some can be found again (similar to SoD to SoA transition). You can ask Sandrah about them once you are in RtF.

And there are new companions to be found, although you may have met one or the other before (e.g. Mellicamp).

Some former NPCs appear but are not joinable since they have a new occupation (e.g. Nalia).

The list of vanilla NPCs available again is short, it also depends of what you did with them during the original game.

I have a neglected side-project to add some to RtF but I have not looked at it for some time now.

 

PS - if somebody stays in your party directly after the RtF transition, then it is a bug, some NPC that may be new and not yet covered.

[Roxanne]

 

The list of vanilla NPCs available again is short, it also depends of what you did with them during the original game.

 

But as you said - nobody is joinable yes? Just to be sure.

There are some that are joinable, but it depends on what you did with them during ToB. E.g. Viconia can be found with the drow in Undermountain or Jan with the gnomes in the Orc palace. Viconia even has some interactions during the Shar events in RtF. But generally the current version focuses on the new NPCs, each of them have a larger quest on their own.

[Roxanne]

Hello! 

I've nearly finished the BGEE part of the Sandrah Saga and I have to say it's awesome! Can't wait to do all the rest of the big amount of content. 

I have little questions for the BG2 part since I have a lot of characters that I want to try for the first playthrough:

Spoiler

-I've read somewhere that Minsc are required for the Shauhana quests? If that is true, until when does Minsc can be safely drop from party and not miss anything relating to Shauhana?

-For Shauhana herself, when in the story can she safely be dropped to not miss her content? Does she have important content until the end of the game?

-Same question for Jen'Lig in TOB

-Last question: For the drizzt of region of terror, I've never done this mod. With all that i've seen about your marvelous saga until now, he will have cross content. Are that drizzt a character that have content until the end of the game or is he droppable after underdark without missing anything? 

Yeah I do a lot of planning before playing XD, it's a big part of my fun. 

Thanks a lot!

Spoiler

The Shauhana quest has two parts - first you rescue her from the Stormhorn orcs. That quest is available as soon as you visit the slums and see a blind orc. You need to let her into the party for the rescue. You do not need Minsc for it.

When you return from the Stormhorns, keep her in the party. Let Minsc join until it is time to return to the Stormhorns for the second part (about 15 game days in total). Once you are back in orc lands, both Minsc and Shauhana will leave the party - you can replace them with whoever you want afterwards. They will only appear as quest givers later on.

 

Jen'lig will appear at the start of ToB when you are in your pocket plane. Her quest ends during the final battle. She has two side quests during ToB.

 

You do NOT need Drizzt in your party at all if you have Sandrah instead. You can play full RoT without filling a party slot. That is if you had some Drizzt/Sandrah stuff in BG1 already. You will find an option for this way when you meet Drizzt at the exit of Irenicus Dungeon. Also, with Sandrah you can send any companion of Drizzt to the Copper Coronet after you rescue them, again no need to let them join.

 

[Roxanne]

Thanks a lot for the answers! Very appreciated

Can i ask other ones similar?

Spoiler

-For drizzt, even if he have no other content with Sandrah in BG2 if i've done his part in BG1, did he have a lot of additional content by himself if he follow? Or is he just a dead weight (Story talking)
-Did Sandrah saga add contents for Imoen in TOB? Enough to keep her all the way? (Since i've saw all her content in BG1 i'd say yes, but I ask because maybe all her special content are in BG1 hehe)

-Are Saverok have new content with Sandrah Saga in TOB? First time I will play the longer road so I don't know what content it have vs vanilla TOB

Thanks again

Valek

Spoiler

- Original Drizzt from RoT has zero content except for the main quest, in your definition he is dead weight (this is actually why I added the alternative to play RoT without him - such NPCs are outdated somehow) .

 

- There is no specific ToB content added for Imoen. There are other Imoen mods and I did not want to collide with them.

 

- Sarevok and Sandrah have a lot of interaction. They both want you to become a god, of course for different reasons.

 

- Longer Road is NOT about Sarevok, that mod is about Irenicus. Again, Sandrah has loads of interaction with Irenicus and LR adds much content by itself, including an extra quest to Watchers Keep.

[Roxanne]

Does the Sandrah mod have any special interactions in SoS like she does with the other big quest mods?

If you have Shauhana in the party when you meet Rolf (both are half-orcs), there is a special outcome. Otherwise, Sandrah has some remarks and interactions with the major of the militia - and she does not deliver her items to the army or joins them officially.

There is nothing essential for her own quests in SoS.

Edited by Roxanne, 26 March 2018 - 10:50 PM.

[southfla79]

tyvm!

[@vGur]

Brilliant! I remember the topic where You got *buggy, cheesy, unbalanced junk* comment. Back than it wasnt clear which destiny awaits for Sandrah mod, couse reedme was very ambitious, just like many dead mods before. Now this line makes me laugh so much everitime I saw it   You = awesome 

 

p.s. As this is the most visited topic now, may I link a question about ToBEx fixes for BG2EE? Thanks

https://forums.beamd...om-tobex#latest

[Roxanne]

p.s. As this is the most visited topic now, may I link a question about ToBEx fixes for BG2EE? Thanks

https://forums.beamd...om-tobex#latest

 

This may fit here

http://www.shsforums...es/#entry601631

 

I have once seen some overview about what former Tobex functions have been integrated now directly into EE engine but I cannot find it anymore. I am sure enough people around here can provide the information.

[Roxanne]

p.s. As this is the most visited topic now, may I link a question about ToBEx fixes for BG2EE? Thanks

https://forums.beamd...om-tobex#latest

 

This may fit here

http://www.shsforums...es/#entry601631

 

I have once seen some overview about what former Tobex functions have been integrated now directly into EE engine but I cannot find it anymore. I am sure enough people around here can provide the information.

I found some information in some email exchange I had long ago with a reliable source:

 

As of v2.0, most if not all of the features from ToBEx are matched in the engine. I say matched instead of integrated, because ToBEx wasn't something that we could just put directly into the code; we had to implement each of its features separately.

As far as my not-an-engineer understanding goes, the EE games provide former Tobex functions but not necessarily by using the same exact code. I used to play and mod BGT (with Tobex) for many years and now do the same with EET and I have not yet found anything missing.