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#1 dorotea

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Posted 16 December 2003 - 08:55 AM

Hi folks!

It looks like poor avariel is not well represented in this mod... At least I cannot manage anything interesting out of myself, and I am not sure if any of the others who also wrote the Redemption dialogs will be willing...

So - here is an open call for a volunteer - 1 or 2 Irenicus-Aerie banters for the Redemption mod. I reserve the right to edit them - but only the 'style' not the contents. So it will fit the language of the mod.

If there is an iterest I may offer ideas to the prospective author! :D

Please post here or email me - and post the ideas too.

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Posted 16 December 2003 - 09:53 AM

Aerie: I...I have seen many...many cruel things, and -
Irenicus: I wonder who those who cut out your wings missed shortening your tongue. Clearly you have a better chance to survive with festering wounds, than if you are allowed to talk .
Aerie: I am...I am trying to understand, that?s all. I cannot picture...cannot picture anything more precious than love...and you...you have forsaken it-
Irenicus (if in romance with a PC): You think you know what love?s worth because you found a way into a man?s bedroll and grew big with a bastard child? A washing woman can do that and I dare say in a more gracious way.


Aerie (if in romance with a PC): Y...yes. I...love <CHARNAME> and I lay with him and I carry his child. I shall...I shall ask you now...have you known what I know? Have you...have you given a woman a gift of immortality to carry under her heart? Or did you forget that it can be achieved by such simple and beautiful means, in your search for the ways to rip it bloodily from...from the city of your birth, from your own kin, from the woman who loved you, from-
Irenicus: Enough. Save your little incantations for someone they affect.
Aerie: Still...still I do not understand...
Irenicus: And that is the thing you are doing the best, moth. I assure you, your skill in not understanding is admirable. No need to hone it on me.

Irenicus (if Aerie is in romance with Haer?Dalis): And am I to accept that a girl who got deflowered by a stranger in passing knows anything of love?
Aerie: I did...did what was right, and I do not regret it...and I know that I l-loved, that I did not betrayed my l-lover...I would not have...and that?s what I do not understand about you...Why would you...try to destroy someone who gave you joy?
Irenicus: Enough. Save your little incantations for someone they affect.
Aerie: Still...still I do not understand...
Irenicus: And that is the thing you are doing the best, moth. I assure you, your skill in not understanding is admirable. No need to hone it on me.

Irenicus (if not in romance with anyone): And what do you know of love, little moth? What do you picture?
Aerie: I...I picture devotion...I picture light...I picture a child with the eyes of his father in my lap. Children are...are our immortality. Have you n-never considered that or did you forget that it can be achieved by such simple and beautiful means, in your search for the ways to rip it bloodily from...from the city of your birth, from your own kin, from the woman who loved you, from-
Irenicus: Enough. Save your little incantations for someone they affect.
Aerie: Still...still I do not understand...
Irenicus: And that is the thing you are doing the best, moth. I assure you, your skill in not understanding is admirable. No need to hone it on me.

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Posted 16 December 2003 - 10:10 AM

Irenicus: Now, again we two look at the sky and sigh in unison. You, wingless, and I, soulless. We only require a blind man to join our company for the picture perfect of the complete idiocy.
Aerie: No...no...it?s not idiocy. Even a blind man, a soulless man and a wingless woman can look at the sky...There is more...more to it than the desire to reach, to touch, to see...
Irenicus: Perhaps to shake a fist at it, cursing the fate or to spit on it. Infinitely more rewarding experience than performing that same action with the dirt under foot as the partner.
Aerie: *Sighs* If you...you wish. But....but I think that...the sky...the sky is always there, without failing - it?s like hope.
Irenicus: Ah, just as immaterial, blue and far away.
Aerie: Do...do you take pleasure in perverting my every...word?
Irenicus: Indeed. That?s why I sigh in unison with you at the sky.
Aerie: I...I do not think so. I think...I think you might be learning that some...some things cannot be taken from others...
Irenicus: Maybe it?s time for me to teach you how to spit at the sky, moth.

#4 dorotea

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Posted 16 December 2003 - 12:17 PM

Remarkable! You gave me something to work with - and here is my first draft version! Oh thank you, thank you. Now I have even more ideas - and it is especially priceless since the next dialog I am working on is called 'On the Nature of Love and Compassion' :D

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Aerie 1:
I...I have seen many...many cruel things, and –

Irenicus 1:
I wonder, how those who cut off your wings missed shortening your tongue, my dear whinepigeon? I suppose that was an oversight on their part. Clearly, you have always had a better chance of survival with festering wounds on your back than with intact ability for verbal communication.

Aerie 2:
I am...I am trying to understand, that’s all. I cannot picture...cannot picture anything more precious than love...and you...you have forsaken it-

Irenicus 2a (if in romance with a PC):
You think you know everything about love, because you have found a way into [CHARNAME]’s bedroll and grew big with his bastard child? A washing woman can do that, and I dare say in a more gracious way.

Aerie 3a:
Y...yes. I...love [CHARNAME] and I lay with him, and I carry his child. I shall...I shall ask you now...have you known what I know? Have you...have you given a woman a gift of immortality to carry under her heart? Or did you forget that it can be achieved by such simple and beautiful means, in your search for the ways to rip it bloodily from...from the city of your birth, from your own kin, from the woman who loved you, from-

Irenicus 3a:
You are forgetting one important part of this equation, little moth. The consent of the second participant is required for this method to work. And if one of the partakers is assured of her immortality by other means… But enough of this. Save your little incantations for someone, they can affect.

Aerie 4a:
Still...still I do not understand...

Irenicus 4a: And that is the thing you are doing best, my wingless moth. I assure you, your skill in not understanding is admirable. No need to hone it on me.

Irenicus 2b (if Aerie is in romance with Haer’Dalis):
And am I to assume that a girl who got herself deflowered by a stranger in passing knows ‘everything’ about love?

Aerie 3b:
I did...did what was right, and I do not regret it...and I know that I l-loved, that I did not betrayed my l-lover...I would not have...and that’s what I do not understand about you...Why would you...try to destroy someone who gave you joy?

Irenicus 3b:
Because that certain someone later ripped the soul out of my chest and left me an empty hulk, devoid of all feelings and emotions, turning her back on me when I needed her most? But enough of that… Save your little incantations for someone, they can affect.

Aerie 4b:
Still...still I do not understand...

Irenicus 4b:
And that is the thing you are doing the best, my wingless moth. I assure you, your skill in not understanding is admirable. No need to hone it on me.

Irenicus 2c (if not in romance with anyone):
And what do *you* know of love, little moth? What do you picture in your wildest dreams as you lie at night staring at the empty, unattainable sky?

Aerie 3c:
I...I picture devotion...I picture light...I picture a child with the eyes of his father in my lap. Children are...are our immortality. Have you n-never considered that or did you forget that it can be achieved by such simple and beautiful means, in your search for the ways to rip it bloodily from...from the city of your birth, from your own kin, from the woman who loved you, from-

Irenicus 3c:
You are forgetting one important part of this equation, little moth. The consent of the second participant is required for this method to work. And if one of the partakers is assured of her immortality by other means… But enough of this. Save your little incantations for someone whom they can affect.

Aerie 4c:
Still...still I do not understand...

Irenicus 4c:
And that is the thing you are doing the best, my wingless moth. I assure you, your skill in not understanding is admirable. No need to hone it on me.

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Irenicus 1 :
Now, again we two look at the sky and sigh in unison. You, wingless, and I, soulless. We only require a blind man to join our company for the picture perfect of complete absurdity.

Aerie 1:
No...no...it’s not absurd. Even a blind man, a soulless man, and a wingless woman can look at the sky...There is more...more to it than the desire to reach, to touch, to possess...

Irenicus 2:
Perhaps to shake a fist at it, cursing the fate, or to laugh at it – that is *if* you can? Infinitely more rewarding experience than sighing with dirt under your feet as a witness.

Aerie 2:
*Sighs* If you...you wish. But....but I think that...the sky...the sky is always there, without failing - it’s like hope.

Irenicus 3:
Ah, just as immaterial, blue and far away.

Aerie 3:
Do...do you take pleasure in perverting my every...word?

Irenicus 4:
Not really. You are forgetting I cannot feel any pleasures or pains. But I can sigh in unison with you to demonstrate my point.

Aerie 4:
I...I do not think so. I think...I think you might be learning that some...some things cannot be taken from others...

Irenicus 5:
(shakes head) Are you trying to work on *my* redemption by chance? Remarkable. I would leave this exercise in futility to [CHARNAME], if I were you. But I can fake pleasure while teaching *you* how to spit at the sky, little moth.

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Posted 16 December 2003 - 12:41 PM

If you want another couple-three ?twill be my pleasure to offer you some more ideas.

Irenicus 3b:
Because that certain someone later ripped the soul out of my chest and left me an empty hulk, devoid of all feelings and emotions, turning her back on me when I needed her most? But enough of that? Save your little incantations for someone, they can affect.

Aerie 4b:
Still...still... I do not understand...


May I suggest alteration (just to show that Aerie actually follows what he says):

Aerie 4b:
Later? You...you have committed a treason in anticipation of a treason? Or were you ex...experimenting...testing even then? Were you trying...trying to weigh her devotion to her people against her devotion to you? It?s...it?s sick! Or I...I do not understand. *Presses the palms to her temples* I do not understand!

And I just noticed: I think it will be better as ?you do the best? as opposite to ?you are doing the best? in the last line in the first dialogue. Sorry about that.

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Posted 16 December 2003 - 02:19 PM

OK - sounds interesting enough. :D I will need to work further on this and maybe expand the other banters as well - but the major discussion of the whole deal is going to be in the dialog I am currently writing.

For now - the last replica by Jon Bon. :

'Weighing her devotion'? I would have laughed at the idea, little moth, if I had a sense of humor left. Devotion of the immortal half-goddess to her fading mortal lover, one of the many faceless ones that she took for pleasure over the countless centuries of her rule? Of course I did not need to test it - there were none. But it brought me immesuarable satisfaction indeed, to see the expression on her face when I ripped the power of the Tree, and weilded it before her mortified eyes... And I will do this again, given half a chance.

Freedom cannot be equated with goodness, virtue, or perfection. Freedom has its own unique self-contained nature; freedom is freedom ? not universal goodness. Any confusion or deliberate equalization of freedom with goodness and excellence is in itself negation of freedom, and acceptance of the path of restraint and enforcement.

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Posted 16 December 2003 - 07:40 PM

Looking through Aerie's ToB dialogues one can see that Aerie rarely has pauses in her dialogues. For the most part they only occur when she is talking to Charname, or if she is pausing to listen to an unspoken response. Aerie's tone seems a bit more appropriate for her SoA personality rather than her ToB personality.
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Posted 17 December 2003 - 06:35 AM

Well, I was aiming to create an impression that she is truly scared of Irenicus, but braves her fear to actually talk to him. But reducing the amount of pauses and breaks is always a good idea. I can go over them again for Dorotea and cut down on it.

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Posted 24 December 2003 - 10:27 PM

Interesting, reading this.  Reading the "You wingless, I souless" bit presented an interesting idea:  A slight freindship between the two at the end maybe?

I have to agree:  Drop the pauses.

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Posted 13 September 2004 - 05:54 PM

it should be noted Aerie dumps Haer'dalis after Saradush is destoryed. Apparently the bard finds all the destuction wonderful.