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[Hobomaniac]

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THIS IS MY ATTEMPT AT INSTALLING A BIG WORLD MEGAMOD USING BWP v15.7

PEOPLE CAN ALSO USE BWS here which is built on BWP and is a continuation of this fantastic project

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Hello,

 

I've decided to share my experience at installing my own mega-mod. First because I have some questions, and would like help from experienced guys like you.

Second, because I wanna show everyone it's possible to make a megamod easily without any hassle (well...relatively speaking)

 

It's not my first time. I've already done this years ago It was v9 at that time. My first attempt wasn't a success.

Then  I made another megamod for v12 a few years later.

This time the operation was a success. I got a stable game. No errors. With over 300 mods.

And it was a joy to play. And it gave me houndreds of hours of fantastic gameplay..

But...unfortunately...I messed up later with my backup and lost everything. My fabulous megamod was lost forever...lost in the abyss...I looked into the abyss... and the abyss gazed into me....and ..err.anyway

 

Now, years later, again, I've decided to come back and check on BWP progress.

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I should say first I don't use BWS.

BWS is for sissies. (no offense)

I do it with the BWP guide and my own modified individual.bat. Like in the Ancient Times.

I've just downloaded the latest Big World guide (v15.7), picked up some mods carefully, reading each time the manual, the read me and sometimes the forums (that step takes a looong time, several weeks for me. Patience and method are required here)

And then I launched the monster.

 

5 hours later (on my 3.2Ghz quadcore and 16Gb RAM), my 300 mods were installed. (There are exactly 300 mods. yes)

No hassle, no difficulties. No worries.

It's magic.

 

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The megamod as you will see is based on Refinements, BG2fixpack, ScS (ScS is sooo amazing), the Big mods (without Nej, NeJ2 is a breaker....but a new revised version is coooming), Spell Rev (spell rev is tricky), Item Rev and the usual tweak packs.

I didn't install Divine Remix. (because of refinements and spell rev). Nor BP-ascension.

And I have a lot of NPCs, quests and other stuff. The logfile has no errors, except some parse_errors with atweaks. But atweaks installs SUCCESSFULLY and I've been confirmed it's ok.

Anyway

 

Here is my mod list (best viewed on a wide screen)

 

 

existing mods:                        classified:

One Pixel Productions               │                │                    │             │
A Mod for the Orderly               │ new items      │ easy               │             │
Adalon's Blood                      │ small quest    │ easy               │             │
Adrian                              │ new NPC        │ not voiced         │             │
Adventures in Papperland            │ NPC banter     │                    │ fun mod     │
Aeon                                │ new NPC        │                    │ beta        │
Afaaq, the Djinni Companion         │ companions     │                    │             │
Ajantis BG1 Expansion               │ NPC banter     │ not voiced         │             │
Ajantis BG2                         │ continuing NPC │ not voiced/not ToB │ adult       │
Ajoc's Minimod                      │ medium quest   │ standard           │             │
Alcool                              │ NPC banter     │                    │             │
Alex Macintosh                      │ new items      │ overpowered        │             │
Animus                              │ new items      │ easy               │             │
Almateria's Restoration Project     │ restoration    │                    │             │
Alora NPC                           │ new NPC        │                    │             │
Alternatives                        │ gameplay tweak │                    │             │
Amber                               │ new NPC        │ not ToB            │             │
Angelo                              │ continuing NPC │                    │             │
Arath                               │ new NPC        │ not voiced         │             │
Ariena                              │ new NPC        │                    │             │
Ascalons Breagar                    │ new NPC        │                    │             │
Ascalons Questpack                  │ medium quest   │ standard           │             │
Assassinations                      │ medium quest   │ standard           │             │
aTweaks                             │ various tweaks │                    │             │
Au service d'Oghma                  │ small quest    │                    │             │
Auren Aseph                         │ new NPC        │                    │             │
Aurora                              │ new NPC        │                    │             │
Aurora ToB                          │                │                    │             │
Azengaard Tactical Encounter        │ tactic mod     │                    │             │
Back to Brynnlaw                    │ medium quest   │ standard           │             │
Bag Bonus                           │ new items      │ easy               │             │
Baldur's Gate Trilogy               │                │                    │             │
Baldur's Gate Romantic Encounters   │ NPC banter     │ not voiced         │ adult       │
Banter Pack                         │ NPC banter     │ not voiced         │             │
BB's Ammunition Belt                │ new items      │ easy               │             │
BB's Bolt Quiver                    │ new items      │ easy               │             │
BB's Book Bag                       │ new items      │ easy               │             │
BB's Potion Bag                     │ new items      │ easy               │             │
BB's Quiver                         │ new items      │ easy               │             │
BB's Scimitar of the Arch-Druid     │ new items      │ easy               │             │
BB's Scroll Case                    │ new items      │ easy               │             │
Bear and Werebear animations        │                │                    │             │
Beyond the Law                      │ new NPC        │                    │             │
BG1 Mini Quests and Encounters      │ medium quest   │ easy               │             │
BG1 NPCs for BG2:SoA                │ NPC banter     │                    │             │
BG1 Unfinished Business             │ restoration    │                    │             │
BG1NPC Music Pack                   │                │                    │             │
BG1NPC Project                      │ NPC banter     │                    │ adult       │
BG2 Fixpack                         │                │                    │             │
BG2 Tweaks                          │ various tweaks │                    │             │
BGSpawn System                      │ gameplay tweak │ tactic mod         │             │
BGT Graphics Overhaul               │                │                    │             │
BGT NSC Portraits                   │ portrait       │                    │             │
BGT Tweakpack BGTTweak              │ various tweaks │                    │             │
Biddekelorak                        │ new NPC        │                    │             │
BloodOfTheMartyr                    │ new items      │ easy               │             │
Boards of Magick Item Pack          │ new items      │ easy               │             │
Bolsa                               │ item tweak     │ easy               │             │
Bons Bruce The Cockney Barfighter   │ One Day NPC    │ not ToB            │             │
BP Series                           │ Scripts        │                    │             │
BP_BGT_Worldmap                     │                │                    │             │
BP-Balancer                         │ XP tweak       │                    │             │
Branwen BG2 NPC                     │ continuing NPC │                    │             │
BTweaks Light                       │ item tweak     │                    │             │
Cerberus                            │ companions     │                    │             │
Charli                              │ item tweak     │ easy               │             │
Check the Bodies                    │ large quest    │                    │             │
Check the Bodies_Fast Forward       │                │                    │             │
Chiara                              │ new NPC        │                    │             │
Chloe                               │ new NPC        │                    │             │
Coondred                            │ new NPC        │                    │             │
Coran BG2 NPC                       │ continuing NPC │                    │             │
Coran's Extended Friendship Talks   │ NPC banter     │ not voiced         │             │
Creature Fixer                      │                │                    │             │
Crossmod Banter Pack for BG II      │ NPC banter     │                    │             │
Cursed Items Revision               │ item tweak     │                    │             │
D's Odd Quest Mod (Imnesvale)       │ tactic mod     │                    │             │
Dace                                │ new NPC        │                    │             │
Darian                              │ new NPC        │ not voiced         │             │
Dark Horizons                       │ large quest    │ hard               │             │
Dark Side of the Sword Coast        │ large quest    │ standard           │             │
Darron                              │ item tweak     │ easy               │             │
de'Arnise Romance                   │ NPC banter     │ not ToB            │             │
Deeper Shadows of Amn               │ tactic mod     │                    │             │
Deidre and Joluv in BGT             │ new items      │ easy               │             │
Ding0's Experience Fixer            │ XP tweak       │                    │             │
Ding0's QuestPack                   │ AI tweak       │                    │             │
Ding0's Tweak Pack                  │ Correction     │                    │             │
Domains of Dread                    │ tactic mod     │                    │             │
Drizzt Saga                         │ large quest    │ hard               │             │
Drows                               │ gameplay tweak │                    │             │
Druid Kit Enhancements              │ kit tweak      │                    │             │
Dungeon Crawl                       │ medium quest   │ standard           │             │
Eilistraee's Song                   │ medium quest   │ standard           │             │
Enhanced BG2                        │ new items      │ easy               │             │
Every Mod and Dog                   │ medium quest   │ standard           │             │
Expanded Thief Stronghold           │ medium quest   │ standard           │             │
Extension de la quete de Jan        │ NPC banter     │                    │             │
Fade SoA                            │ new NPC        │ not ToB            │             │
Fading Promises                     │ small quest    │ standard           │             │
Faren                               │ new NPC        │ not ToB            │             │
Finch                               │ new NPC        │                    │             │
Fishing for Trouble                 │ medium quest   │ standard           │             │
Food and Herbal Mod                 │ new items      │ easy               │             │
Freedom's Reign/Reign of Virtue     │ new items      │ easy               │             │
Gahesh                              │ new NPC        │                    │             │
Garrick's Infatuation               │ NPC banter     │ not voiced         │             │
Gavin                               │ new NPC        │                    │ adult       │
Gavin for BG2                       │ new NPC        │                    │             │
Generalized Biffing                 │                │                    │             │
Getting Rid of Anomen               │ NPC banter     │                    │             │
Ghareth                             │ One Day NPC    │                    │             │
Goo the Disembodied Floating Eyeball│ new NPC        │ not ToB            │             │
Grimuars                            │ new spells     │                    │             │
Haer'Dalis' Swords                  │ new items      │ easy               │             │
Haiass                              │ companions     │                    │             │
Haldamir                            │ new NPC        │ not ToB            │             │
Hanna                               │ new NPC        │                    │             │
Heart Of The Wood                   │ new items      │ easy               │             │
Herbs and Potions Add-in for BG 1   │ new items      │ standard           │             │
Herbs and Potions Add-in for BG 2   │ new items      │ standard           │             │
Hessa                               │ One Day NPC    │                    │             │
Homeward Bound                      │ gameplay tweak │                    │             │
Horace                              │ new NPC        │ not ToB            │             │
Hubelpot the Vegetable Merchant     │ new NPC        │                    │             │
Huple                               │ new NPC        │ not voiced         │             │
I Shall Never Forget                │ small quest    │ standard           │             │
IEP Extended Banter                 │ NPC banter     │ not voiced         │             │
igi's Facing the Shade Lord again   │ small quest    │                    │             │
igi's Item Mod                      │ new items      │                    │             │
igi's Key Names                     │ item tweak     │                    │             │
Imoen Friendship                    │ NPC banter     │ not voiced         │             │
Improved Volcano Pack               │ tactic mod     │                    │             │
Indira                              │ new NPC        │ not voiced         │             │
Infinity Animations                 │                │                    │             │
Innershade                          │ medium quest   │ standard           │             │
Isra                                │ NPC banter     │                    │             │
Isra for BGII                       │ continuing NPC │                    │             │
Item Pack by Daulmakan              │ new items      │                    │             │
Item Revisions                      │ item tweak     │                    │             │
Iylos                               │ new NPC        │                    │             │
Jan's Alchemy                       │ new items      │ easy               │             │
Jarls BGT Adventure Pack            │ small quest    │                    │             │
Jarls BGT Tweak Pack                │ various tweaks │                    │             │
K'aeloree's BWL Contest Items       │ small quest    │                    │             │
Kari                                │ new NPC        │                    │             │
Kelsey                              │ new NPC        │                    │             │
Keto                                │ new NPC        │ not ToB            │             │
Kiara-Zaiya                         │ new NPC        │                    │ adult       │
Kido                                │ new NPC        │                    │             │
Kim                                 │ new NPC        │ not ToB            │             │
Kindrek                             │ new NPC        │                    │             │
Kit Tomes                           │ kit tweak      │                    │             │
Kitanya SoA                         │ new NPC        │ not ToB            │             │
Kivan and Deheriana Companions      │ continuing NPC │                    │             │
Konalan's Tweaks                    │ rule tweak     │                    │             │
Korgan's Redemption                 │ NPC banter     │ not voiced         │             │
Ktweaks                             │ new items      │                    │             │
La'Valygar                          │ NPC banter     │ not voiced         │             │
Lena                                │ new NPC        │ not voiced         │             │
Lester                              │ new NPC        │ not voiced         │             │
Level 1 NPCs                        │ kit tweak      │                    │             │
Lol's RezMod                        │ small quest    │                    │             │
Lost Items                          │ new items      │ standard           │             │
Lucy the Wyvern                     │ small quest    │ easy               │             │
Macholy's Nameless Melody Inn       │ medium quest   │ standard           │             │
Mazzy Friendship                    │ NPC banter     │ not voiced         │             │
MegaModKits                         │ new kit        │                    │             │
Mersetek                            │ new items      │ easy               │             │
Mhoram                              │ new NPC        │ not voiced         │             │
Moddie                              │ new NPC        │ not ToB            │             │
Mordan's Christmas Minimod          │ small quest    │                    │ fun mod     │
Munchmod                            │ new items      │ standard           │             │
Mur'Neth                            │ new NPC        │ not voiced         │             │
Music of the Realms                 │ new items      │ easy               │             │
Fixed Tanar'ri and Wyvern           │                │                    │             │
Mystigan                            │ new items      │ easy               │             │
Nanstein                            │ item tweak     │ easy               │             │
Neh'taniel                          │ new NPC        │ not ToB            │             │
Nephele                             │ new NPC        │ not voiced         │             │
Nikita                              │ new NPC        │ not ToB            │             │
Northern Tales of the Sword Coast   │ large quest    │ standard           │             │
Northern Tales of the Sword Coast Patch              │                    │             │
NPC Kitpack                         │ kit tweak      │                    │             │
NPC Tweak                           │ kit tweak      │ standard           │             │
NPCFlirt Pack                       │ NPC banter     │ not voiced         │ adult       │
P and P Celestials                  │ PnP tweak      │                    │             │
P5Tweaks                            │ spell tweak    │                    │             │
Petsy Chattertone                   │ new NPC        │ not ToB            │             │
Planar Sphere                       │ medium quest   │ standard           │             │
PnP Free Action                     │ item tweak     │                    │             │
Polytweak                           │ various tweaks │                    │             │
Quallo                              │ small quest    │                    │             │
Realm of the Bhaalspawn Armor Set   │ new items      │ easy               │             │
Recarga                             │ new items      │ easy               │             │
Refinements                         │ HLATweak       │                    │             │
Region of Terror                    │ large quest    │ hard               │             │
Renal                               │ new items      │ easy               │             │
Restored Prologue Textscreen Music  │                │                    │             │
Reunion                             │ medium quest   │ easy               │             │
Revised Battles                     │ tactic mod     │                    │             │
Revised Forgotten Wars Item Pack    │ new items      │ easy               │             │
Ribald's Genie                      │ new items      │ easy               │             │
RItemPack                           │ new items      │ standard           │             │
Rogue ReBalancing by aVENGER        │ various tweaks │                    │             │
Rolles                              │ new items      │ easy               │             │
Romantic Encounters                 │ NPC banter     │ not voiced         │ adult       │
RTT Item Pack                       │ new items      │ easy               │             │
Ruad Ro'fessa Item Upgrade          │ new items      │ easy               │             │
Rupert the Dye Merchant             │ new items      │ easy               │             │
Saerileth                           │ new NPC        │                    │             │
Sarah ToB                           │ new NPC        │                    │ adult       │
Sarevok Friendship                  │ NPC banter     │ not voiced         │             │
Secret of Bonehill                  │ large quest    │ standard           │             │
Shadows Over Soubar                 │ large quest    │ hard               │ experienced │
Shards of Ice                       │ small quest    │                    │             │
Sheena                              │ new NPC        │ not voiced/not ToB │             │
Silverstar                          │ new NPC        │ not voiced/not ToB │             │
Slandor - The Minotaur and Lilacor  │ small quest    │ easy               │             │
Solaufein Flirt Pack                │ NPC banter     │                    │             │
Solaufein NPC                       │ new NPC        │ not voiced         │             │
Song and Silence                    │ PnP tweak      │                    │             │
Spell Revisions                     │ spell tweak    │ standard           │             │
Stuff of the Magi                   │ new items      │ standard           │             │
Summon Bhaalspawn                   │ new NPC        │                    │             │
Sword and Fist                      │ PnPTweak       │                    │             │
Sword Coast Map Labels              │                │                    │             │
Sword Coast Stratagems              │ various tweaks │                    │             │
Tales of Anegh                      │ large quest    │ standard           │             │
Tales of the Deep Gardens           │ medium quest   │ standard           │             │
Tashia Remix                        │ new NPC        │                    │             │
TeamBG Armor Pack for BG1           │ new items      │ standard           │             │
TeamBG Weapon Pack for BG1          │ new items      │ standard           │             │
Teleport                            │ new spells     │ standard           │             │
Tethyr Forest Patch                 │                │                    │             │
Thael                               │ new NPC        │                    │             │
Thalantyr Item Upgrade Mod          │ new items      │ standard           │             │
The Arena Project                   │ tactic mod     │                    │             │
The Bigg Quest Pack                 │ tactic mod     │                    │ adult       │
The Bigg Tweak Pack                 │ various tweaks │                    │             │
The Black Rose I: Market Prices     │ medium quest   │ standard           │             │
The Darkest Day                     │ large quest    │ hard               │             │
The Grey Clan I: In Candlelight     │ medium quest   │ standard           │             │
The Holy Hand Grenade               │ small quest    │                    │ fun mod     │
The Lure of the Sirine's Call       │ medium quest   │ standard           │             │
The Luxley Family                   │ new NPC        │ not ToB            │             │
The Magnificient Magic Shop         │ new items      │ easy               │             │
The Sellswords                      │ medium quest   │ standard           │             │
The Slithering Menace               │ small quest    │                    │             │
The Stone of Askavar                │ medium quest   │ standard           │             │
The Undying                         │ small quest    │ standard           │             │
The Vault                           │ tactic mod     │                    │             │
The Wheels of Prophecy              │ gameplay tweak │                    │             │
The White Queen                     │ medium quest   │ standard           │             │
Throne of Bhaal Extender            │                │                    │             │
Thrown Hammers                      │ item tweak     │                    │             │
Tiax                                │ continuing NPC │                    │             │
Tortured Soul Quest                 │ medium quest   │ standard           │             │
Tower Of Deception                  │ medium quest   │ standard           │ tactic      │
Trap Revisions                      │ gameplay tweak │                    │             │
Tsujatha                            │ new NPC        │                    │ adult       │
Tsuki for BG2                       │ continuing NPC │                    │ adult       │
Turambar's fixes and tweaks         │ various tweaks │                    │             │
Turnip Golem                        │ small quest    │ easy               │             │
Tyris Flare                         │ new NPC        │ not voiced         │             │
Ulrien of Cormyr: SagaMaster        │ small quest    │ easy               │             │
Unfinished Business for BGII        │ restoration    │                    │             │
Unholy Gate Opening Ritual Book     │ new spells     │ tactic mod         │             │
Unique Containers                   │ correction     │                    │             │
Unusual Oddities Shop (AbyStore)    │ new items      │ easy               │             │
Valen                               │ new NPC        │ not voiced         │             │
Valerie                             │ new NPC        │ not voiced         │             │
Vampire Tales                       │ new NPC        │                    │             │
Varshoon                            │ new NPC        │                    │             │
Vendedor DLAN                       │ new items      │ easy               │             │
Viconia Friendship                  │ NPC banter     │ not voiced         │             │
Volcanic Armoury                    │ new items      │ easy               │             │
Weimer's Item Upgrade               │ new items      │ standard           │             │
White                               │ new NPC        │                    │             │
Wikaede                             │ new NPC        │                    │             │
Willie Bruce                        │ new NPC        │ not ToB            │             │
Worgas                              │ new NPC        │                    │             │
Xan BG2                             │ continuing NPC │                    │             │
Xan's BG2 voice for BG1             │                │                    │             │
Xan's friendship path for BG1       │ NPC banter     │ not voiced         │             │
Xulaye                              │ new NPC        │ not voiced/not ToB │             │
Yasraena                            │ new NPC        │ not ToB            │             │
Yeslick                             │ NPC banter     │ not ToB            │             │
Yikari                              │ new NPC        │ not voiced         │             │
Yoshimo Friendship                  │ NPC banter     │ not voiced         │             │
Yvette Romance                      │ new NPC        │                    │             │
Zalnoya and the Shadow Thieves      │ small quest    │ easy               │             │

 

 

The philosophy of this megamod is STABILITY. To guarantee a safe passage through BGT from the beginning to the end.

Some mods didn't make the cut and were considered too risky, too messy or too buggy.

 

Sure, there are bugs. Mods aren't perfect and with a monster like this one, it would be a miracle to have a completely bug-free experience.

But, from my small experience, playing several configurations in the past, you get a pretty stable and cohesive game.

The pleasure you get playing all those great historical mods together in a single game can be ... orgasmic.

 

 

[OPTIONNAL QUESTIONS]

 

1) What do you think about this whole configuration? Does it smell good?

Or is it fishy?

 

2) it seems my BG1NPCSoA mod (BG1 NPC for BG2 v9) seems to conflict with a lot of the BG2 standalone NPC mods (Xan for BG2, Coran for BG2, etc...).

That's normal I know. But what do you think is best? Keep the BG1NPCSoA or the standalone NPCs? Which one would you keep?

 

3) Is it safe to remove the banter acceleration for BG1, BG2 and ToB (this is a component of the BG1NPCproject mod)? because I'm a really slow player..really slow player.....SOLVED

 

4) The multistronghold mod couldn't be installed. Because as the debug file says :

[Setup-multistronghold.exe] WeiDU version 23900

Using Language [English]

SKIPPING: [Make the bard stronghold available to all classes]

      Skipping this component, as you have a multiple-strongholds component from Tactics installed"

But...I dont have the Tactics mod!! I haven't downloaded it. So why is it assuming I have?

Can someone help me on that? SOLVED

 

5) I left the XP settings just as it is. ..by default....Just like it's described on page 292 of the manual. What do you think about this? Should I modify them considering my configuration? (I've installed BGT, BG2tweak, BP-Balancer, atweaks and the DEFJAM). And considering the huge number of NPCs I have (yes I wanna play with them all). What would be your settings?

 

....well, that's it for now. I don't have any other questions. They'll surely come in time. For now, I'm just gonna concentrate on hunting bugs and goblins, and report on what I find.

 

 

individual.bat

 

the individual.bat has been modified. Nothing fancy, mind you.

 

But numerous modifications were made. Because of bugs with the individual.bat (e.g.  two incompatible components were installed together) or to change my xp settings (xpmod, bp-balancers) or to change some major tweaks (bg2tweaks, atweaks) or to remove banter accelerators (I don't like them) or to make tougher enemies (tactic mods like revised battles, ScS) or to make other minor choices.

 

 

CONFLICT RESOLUTION

 

When you run Big World install.bat, it asks you questions, to help you customize the package.

It wouldn't make much sense in that case to choose the option [2] parameters/settings. Because those parameters only help you make a selection of the mods it detects. It filters the mods you have in your game directory.

If you're like me...if you know what you want, and you've already made your choice choosing the right mods, then select option [3], which allows you to run your own custom individual.bat file. This way, you have entire control.

 

Then it asks you for conflict resolution. Choose the following answers :

 

original BGT GUI vs 1pp improved optics --> choose the improved optics

 

1pp Items vs Item Revisions --> choose Item Revisions

 

BG1NPCSoA vs all the NPCs mods --> choose the NPCs mods

 

Coran NPC vs RE --> Choose Coran (RE will install as well, but avoiding the conflicts with Coran)

 

ScS vs DSoA --> choose ScS

 

Jarl Adventure Pack vs NToTSC --> install both!!! yes. Here, this one breaks the philosophy of the megamod. Because you will have some NPCs (namely SVLAST and PILAR) twice. And you'll do the quests twice!

I know it breaks the 4th wall. I know. I know.  And you know I love realism as much as you do. But those two mods are just too good. So I go for it, I install both. It's been reported no crash. Just duplicate quests.

 

Don't clean up - so you can install other mods later if you need to.

 

 

 

WIDESCREEN and BIGGER FONTS

 

I don't use the widescreen mod. I'm playing 800x600 on an old LCD monitor (old style).

But you can add it to the mod list if you want. During the setup of the megamod, it will ask you for the resolution you want. (like  X=1920 Y=1080). The WS mod will be installed before Generalized Biffing (see the manual).

 

There is also a nice mod that makes fonts bigger. Essential if you're playing on high resolution screens. Here it is.

You can install it over the megamod. Or add it to the individual.bat. Easy

Attached Files

•  BiG World Debug.7z   690.63K   145 downloads
•  individual.bat.7z   12.29K   145 downloads
•  WeiDU.log   109.93K   159 downloads

Edited by Hobomaniac, 31 July 2016 - 03:39 AM.

[micbaldur]

Well looks like nice little    BWP install, as i have said long time ago here bigger is better.

 

1) It looks nice, but little small BWP for my taste.

 

2) Install bat has checks for various NPCs and also BG1NPCSoA has checks for NPCs too, so you won't get many NPCs installing under those checks. If you want all NPCs from BG1NPCSoA you need to edit both batfile and BG1NPCSoA.tp2.

 

3) You can remove banter accelerator if you want to, it doesn't break anything.

 

4) That's odd that multistronghold doesn't install, but there's some that can prevent installing it. Can't check this now, i'm not home but maybe later tonight i can check it.

 

5) Mine was xp settings are little different than those of BWP manual. But they are good also.

 

Nice too somebody else that play good old BG1 and BG2 with BWP, it has been kind of lonely here lately among those EE fans.

 

As for NEJ you are wrong about it, it plays just nice in BWP. I have been using it in several BWP during these years. I haven't tried new versions of NEJ and TS yet because i'm playing this BWP to end before making my next BWP with those mods.

 

Oh you could put your wiedu.log in spoilers to that first post, it easier to check what you have installed.

 

Good luck with your game.

[Hobomaniac]

Talking about NeJ, here is what I found in the "bible" page 34 :

 

Though NeJ 2 6.94 is playable in a megamod, however, occur on problems, making NeJ unplayable in a megamod,
as long as one does not have knowledge of how to fix bugs by oneself.
The reasons for this are:
1. NEJ overwrites original files of BG2. This does not allow other mods that might want to change these files to be installed
correctly.
2. NEJ overwrites original files of BGT. For no apparent reason the complete story of Brage is removed, resulting to
the fact that BG1NPCProjects and BGQE can not be installed without the patch from the BiG World Fixpack.
3. NEJ is not completed and there are lots of errors that were not corrected before the release. Already in the solo
game you can get with the Arundel NPC "No valid response" message, although this dialogue was scripted clean
in IWD.
4. Please understand that playing NEJ is different from playing BG. The main character is not your protagonist but
Hrothgar. So if you want to play the whole mod, you should follow him. Like in original IWD the plot is predetermined.
There is no such freedom of walking like in BG. You get the following quest only if you have solved the previous
one. If you missed something, you cannot go back. The only way is reload.
5. NeJ only accepts only one single procedure of solution. This mainly refers to the second part of the plot, playing in
Halruaa. The spell tests that are to do there are so scripted that the spell has to act just, as the author has provided.
If a mod like Spell revision for example is installed, this upsets the balance and the tasks in Halruaa cannot
be solved.
6. Without the patch from the BiG World Fixpack it is impossible to add Dar from NEJ, if the name Adario from TDD
is already listed in the files interdia.2da and pdialog.2da. In Adario the word DAR is included and therefore WeiDU
does not add this line, resulting in one error after another in the game.
Now, thanks o the joint efforts of a few savvy followers, most of the problems are fixed by the BiG World Fixpack.
Though this doesn't mean that there aren't any other problems. You should have knowledge of how to fix bugs by
yourself if you want to play NEJ2 in a megamod.

 

The warning is scary.

I don't know about this mod.

I still hesitate.

Edited by Hobomaniac, 18 July 2016 - 12:33 PM.

[micbaldur]

Well like it says there most of those NEJ problems are solved in BWP Fixpack and I haven't encountered any game breaking bugs in NEJ during my BWP installs (tried v4.2, v6.0 and v6.94).

 

Biggest problems in NEJ v 6.94:

 

1. NeJ locks Vulova Estate at Government and forces you to choose Bodhi at chapter 3. Easy to bypass by getting key to door. I made workaround for it.

 

2. NeJ removes Flametongue from Durlag's Tower area ARD014. Restored FlameTongue there.

 

3. After Halruaa you get stuck at Ulcaster (AR9799) in BG1 side and can't get back to BG2 side unless you CLUAConsole. Made workaround for it.

 

Still i don't know anything about those spell issues because i don't use spell revisions or spellpack (i'm not spell person), also i use BP AI (better in general) not SCS AI because it's mainly focus on mages and other spellcasters.

 

Also i wouldn't use NEJ v6.94 or TS v 7.04 because Vlad updated those earlier this year. But Laonardo hasn't updated BWP using those versions yet. So maybe it's not wise to try those yet if you don't know how to handle possible install problems.

 

But ultimately it's your choice if you want to try, i don't want to pressure you any further.

 

Over all your BWP looks like nice "middle" size BWP, i prefer "little" bigger BWPs.

[Hobomaniac]

I don't have your experience micbaldur. I cannot do heavy edits or CLUA console commands.

My philosophy at this megamod is to make something simple, easy and stable.

 

I think NeJ interacts with too many things. It has duplicate objects with TDD. It's built on Baldurdash. I don't have baldurdash. My game is BG2fixpack based.

And I know BWP is doing all it can to circum...oh well...I'm sure the mod is playable in a megamod. But it gives birth to too many problems that only an experienced guy can solve. Which I am not.

I will play it....standalone style.

 

 

By the way, for the question 4, I removed the multistronghold mod and replaced it with component 1160 from BG2_tweaks

Question 4 SOLVED

 

 

The parse-errors lines in the atweaks installation do worry me.

It can't be good.

[micbaldur]

By the way, for the question 4, I removed the multistronghold mod and replaced it with component 1160 from BG2_tweaks
Question 4 SOLVED

It's not Tactics mod that caused problems with Multistronghold mod, it's something else but i don't know what. But that BG2 component does the same thing so it's ok.

The parse-errors lines in the atweaks installation do worry me.
It can't be good.

I seem to have those same parse errors too and i haven't encountered any problems with any "PnP Fey creatures" (i have played BG1 and i'm at chapter 6 in BG2, killed Bodhi and about ot start Soubar). So in my opinion you can ignore those parse errors and start playing that BWP.

[Hobomaniac]

By the way, for the question 4, I removed the multistronghold mod and replaced it with component 1160 from BG2_tweaks
Question 4 SOLVED

It's not Tactics mod that caused problems with Multistronghold mod, it's something else but i don't know what. But that BG2 component does the same thing so it's ok.

 

It's even better because, in-game, you have the option to refuse a stronghold. Why would you do that? I don't know, but it allows to make your own selection of strongholds I suppose.

[Hobomaniac]

Right now I'm trying to customize my whole megamod with the individual.bat

I try to carefully (watch out the abyss!) pick the right components for my gameplay style.

 

And I added some small but quality mods to my list :

 

Animus

Summon Bhaalspawn

Thael (it's a spanish mod translated by the Big World fixpack)

Lester (translated the same)

LOL_Rezmod

 

But I'm reaching the limit of what I think will be a very stable configuration.

My modlist represent already 65-70% of all the mods referenced by BWP. (I'm sure BWS has more)

 

I still hesitate on installing Polytweaks, because I'm afraid it will mess up with component 2160 of BG2 Tweak Pack v16. Hm. I don't know.

 

I wanted to remove also all the romance conflicts....but I decided to keep them. For the sake of realism.

[micbaldur]

Right now I'm trying to customize my whole megamod with the individual.bat
I try to carefully (watch out the abyss!) pick the right components for my gameplay style.
 
And I added some small but quality mods to my list :
 
Animus
Summon Bhaalspawn
Thael (it's a spanish mod translated by the Big World fixpack)
Lester (translated the same)
LOL_Rezmod

I use all of those except Summon Bhaalspawn (maybe i add it to my next BWP) and i think that Lol's Rezmod is mandatory.

But I'm reaching the limit of what I think will be a very stable configuration.
My modlist represent already 65-70% of all the mods referenced by BWP. (I'm sure BWS has more)

Well i kind of disagree with this but that's me.

I still hesitate on installing Polytweaks, because I'm afraid it will mess up with component 2160 of BG2 Tweak Pack v16. Hm. I don't know.

I use polytweaks but i don't know if conflicts with component 2160, i'm not home so i can't check it. Maybe later after i get back home.

I wanted to remove also all the romance conflicts....but I decided to keep them. For the sake of realism.

Well right way to multiromance involves much more than using some BG2 Tweak Pack component, also you need to edit various baf/bcs and d/dlg-files. By the way i multiromance all ladies.

[Hobomaniac]

What is the best character to roll for the adventure considering my mod list?

 

I have rogue rebalancing, refinements and the expanded thief stronghold.

The wiser choice would be a thief or a bard.

But I don't like thieves.

And Bards are sissies. (no offense to the Bards out there)

 

Maybe a monk then. I have Swords And Fists installed.

It would fit the story so well...but no weapons. No armor...No food. No clothes...NO SEX! bah. not for me.

 

Plus, what would be my alignement?

Do I miss a lot of stuff, if I play a "good" character? Do I have to choose "neutral"?

[Vlad]

Guys, I think you need to forget about NeJ2 at all. I'm watching Chev's walkthrough, and it makes me feel bad realising how much good things are missed there. I have almost completed NeJ Elements (NeJE), which combines BD, TS and Keldorn's Romance plus some quest extensions, improved original NPCs and so on. We'll start testing it next week. After that, improved NeJ3 with new big areas and fully compatible with NeJE is on the way. Then you may try and squeeze it all in your mega mod.   

[Hobomaniac]

Guys, I think you need to forget about NeJ2 at all. I'm watching Chev's walkthrough, and it makes me feel bad realising how much good things are missed there. I have almost completed NeJ Elements (NeJE), which combines BD, TS and Keldorn's Romance plus some quest extensions, improved original NPCs and so on. We'll start testing it next week. After that, improved NeJ3 with new big areas and fully compatible with NeJE is on the way. Then you may try and squeeze it all in your mega mod.   

 

 Aaah. Great news.

I'd be happy to test it in my megamod as well.

[Hobomaniac]

I removed Breagar from my list. Because it's in german! and the TEXTPATCH has no english translation at the moment.

 

I added :

 

LEVEL 1 NPC

DARK HORIZONS

 

I don't care for Level 1 NPC (no offense to the mod author, I think it's a tremendous work), but this mod is there from the beginning and BWP is "built" around it. Many components depend on it. So it's an essential part of BWP. Plus, it's very customizable, so if you don't want to change anything, you can.

 

But...I removed component #3 "Joinable NPCs more closely match the player character’s experience". It's a more balanced solution, avoiding having overpowered companions. Progress now depends on your companions and not yourself.

 

As for Dark Horizons, I don't know why it was missing. A mistake.

Edited by Hobomaniac, 20 July 2016 - 12:37 PM.

[Hobomaniac]

I noticed that in Breagar mod, there is a TRA english folder.

But no matter what, the mod is installed in german.

Is there a way to install that mod in english?

Edited by Hobomaniac, 22 July 2016 - 08:38 AM.

[micbaldur]

I noticed that in Breagar mod, there is a TRA english folder.

But no matter what, the mod is installed in german.

Is there a way to install that mod in english?

Yes, but can't help now, i'm not at home right now. Maybe later tonight i check this out.

[Hobomaniac]

That would be great. Ive spent 2 hours trying to make it work. Ive added a LANGUAGE line to the tp2 file. But to no avail

 

The version v7.00b can't be installed because of errors.

The version v6.09a installs ok but is in german.

Edited by Hobomaniac, 22 July 2016 - 12:15 PM.

[Hobomaniac]

I did it!!!

 

What I've done is finishing translating v6.09a!

I moved the TRA files from english to german folder (except one file acvigri.tra which is part of setup_ACbre.tra) and translated the few lines missing (with the help of mighty google and a bit of good sense)

And it works.

So now I have a proper working english version of Breagar 6.09a.

 

But clearly BWP v15.7 has a problem with Breagar v7.00b (a translation by White Angus), and I'm not the only one having the probem. See here

Or here

I had the same error.

But v6.09a installs OK, ...only in german.

...and now in englsh hehe (...my english anyway)

 

Breagar's voice is still in german though.

[micbaldur]

Nice job installing old Breagar v6.09a but i could help you now if you want to install v 7.00b (by White Angus).

 

Sorry that i didn't asnwer earlier but i had to ask permission if i could give you install updated patches.

 

As for Breagar voicing as german is unavoidable because mod doesn't have english voice.

[Hobomaniac]

It's ok Mic. No problem.

I've spent a whole afternoon on that breagar stuff, but It was worth the pain. Because it's working now.

 

The v7.00b by White Angus doesn't work on my BWP 15.7 with the individual.bat method.

It's just doesn't work. I tried it all, even with the workaround here

I get the same ACVIRGI error no matter what.

 

But it happens the v6.09a installs perfectly. But in german. So as I said, I made an english version. The only thing I've done is replace all the german strings in the TRA files by english strings. That's it nothing more.....and the mod installed OK on a minimal BGT configuration but the strangest thing happenned when I attempted a FULL installation with all the mods enabled, it bugged!!! the exact same error as with the v7.00b.

Soooooo strange.

 

So....I applied the workaround (see the link above) to my custom 6.09a "english" version. I replaced the lines :

 

ACTION_IF FILE_EXISTS_IN_GAME ~ACVIRGI.CRE~
THEN BEGIN
PRINT ~Bringe Virginie, dem unsichtbaren Wunderbunny, ein paar neue Tricks bei~
EXTEND_BOTTOM ~ACVIRGI.bcs~ ~ACBre/Virgi/ACVIRGI.BAF~
COMPILE ~ACBre/Virgi/ACVIRGI2.D~

END ELSE BEGIN
PRINT ~Installiere Virginie, das unsichtbare Wunderbunny~
COPY ~ACBre/cre/ACVIRGI.CRE~ ~OVERRIDE/ACVIRGI.CRE~
SAY NAME1 ~~
SAY NAME2 ~~
WRITE_ASCII 0x280 ~ACVIRGI~
WRITE_ASCII 0x2cc ~ACVIRGI~
WRITE_ASCII 0x248 ~ACVIRGI~
COMPILE ~ACBre/Virgi/ACVIRGI.D~
COMPILE ~ACBre/Virgi/ACVIRGI.BAF~
END

 

by

 

ACTION_IF FILE_EXISTS_IN_GAME ~ACVIRGI.CRE~
THEN BEGIN
PRINT ~Bringe Virginie, dem unsichtbaren Wunderbunny, ein paar neue Tricks bei~
EXTEND_BOTTOM ~ACVIRGI.bcs~ ~ACBre/Virgi/ACVIRGI.BAF~
END ELSE BEGIN
PRINT ~Installiere Virginie, das unsichtbare Wunderbunny~
COPY ~ACBre/cre/ACVIRGI.CRE~ ~OVERRIDE/ACVIRGI.CRE~
SAY NAME1 ~~
SAY NAME2 ~~
WRITE_ASCII 0x280 ~ACVIRGI~
WRITE_ASCII 0x2cc ~ACVIRGI~
WRITE_ASCII 0x248 ~ACVIRGI~
COMPILE ~ACBre/Virgi/ACVIRGI.D~
COMPILE ~ACBre/Virgi/ACVIRGI2.D~
COMPILE ~ACBre/Virgi/ACVIRGI.BAF~
END

 

See the COMPILE command has been moved.

 

And it works.

But in fact, the COMPILE command is skipped now. As the program is executing the first condition only (he's checking for the file ACVIRGI.CRE).

Anyway.

 

Oh god what a chore. I must have mistaken somewhere to do all this.

I just hope I did well. I don't know.

Attached Files

•  Setup-ACBre.Debug   232.33K   311 downloads

Edited by Hobomaniac, 23 July 2016 - 12:54 PM.