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[agb1]

Is this a BWS or a BWP install?

I do not recognize CDPP29.itm -- can you search for it in your game folder? There should be a copy of it that is NOT in a backup folder, and that non-backup copy is probably the original. As a test, you could try swapping the original with the modded copy in your override folder and retry the SCS install. If that works, we can deduce that it was broken by a later mod.

The Imp's Mega Mod FAQ (sticky post in this forum) has a section that describes how to collect a WeiDU "change-log" - that would be the next step. Note you need to replace the version of WeiDU in the FAQ's attachment with a newer version of WeiDU (such as the weidu.exe currently in your game folder).

[agb1]

As a workaround, you can simply remove the item from your override folder. Later in your install, BWP should run lolfixer, which will remove any references to the item because it will be missing from the override folder.

[Mike1072]

The cd and c! prefixed items are created by BG2 Tweak Pack's Wear Multiple Protection Items component. There should be a cdpnp.2da file in the override that can point you to the original item these duplicates were created from.

[Roxanne]

Success - kind of:

1. Excluded component 2150 (PNP item of protection tweak) of BG2 Tweaks and Melissan's ring from Wheels of Prophecy was not corrupted and basic component of Stratagems loaded.

Note:  I was confused on my last installation.  I did NOT install Item revisions.

I had the same choices, just older versions and different order:

I had SCS 21, then Wheels of Prophecy v2, then SCSII21 then BG2 Tweaks v11 (with component 2150).  This worked.  Newer versions, different order and error.  The last time I used item revisions was version 2 and it was a long long time ago.  Did check out Item revisions 3 and needs more study before I will consider loading it, but looks promising.

 

2.  Stratagems General AI failed to load because it was missing 6 spells from the PPK Kit mod:  EISPCL: 02,03,13,09,12,19.  Does Stratagem assign Kits to NPCs?  If so cool, just didn't know.  Why else would it care that these spells exist?  Why weren't these spells in override?  The only thing that looks like it could have changed them is spell revisions.

I loaded the missing files to override and reprocessed.  Success with Stratagems, trap revisions all the way to Sandrah.

 

3. Sandrah failed to install.  I had it on manual load because v1.11 has different installation choices then the v10 from BWP.  When manually loading it failed due to missing sound (.wav files) and some reference to BIFF????  I will look a the debug file closer tonight.  Did my inclusion of all the new sound updates cause Sandrah to fail?  Why is Sandrah checking for sound files anyways?   I was just so frustrated last night with this error that I killed the installation.  I will try again tonight.

regarding 3. you may have this issue http://www.shsforums...-53#entry587736 which was in the download of the last two days but is now corrected.

[The Imp]

Does Stratagem assign Kits to NPCs?  If so cool, just didn't know.  Why else would it care that these spells exist?  Why weren't these spells in override? 

Some kit yeah, to your enemies, not to NPCs. It checks the spells because it wants to not leave the enemy .cre files patched with garbage files.
The spell are not in the override folder probably because the PPK Kit mods compiler didn't include the spells into the mod ... a good reason not to trust the mod at all and delete it from your hard drive.
Although, you might consider to use a rather better fitting and more up to dated mods, like the SCSv30. And use tools that actually work, like say the BWS (yes, direct download) and not the old variant of a BWP install.bat you obviously are. If we look at your mods.

[Roxanne]

Imp:  Thanks for the reply.  I didn't know that SCS would assign kits to enemy NPCs.  How does it pick the kits? Random?  Why would it use the kits that I installed from PPK vs. kits from other mods?  I will check to see if PPK mod is actually loading the spells correctly and let you know.

I haven't used the kits from PPK in a long time so maybe I can remove from my installation packet.  Please note that I really don't have a lot kits loaded (aside from TDD).

Also this installation is using SCSv30 along with the latest version of every mod.  I was referencing my last successful installation (prior to this attempt) which used SCs21.  Once I start a game I usually play for a long.....time. In fact I wasn't even to ToB in my last installation, but wanted to start a new game to try Sandrah.

BWS:  It looks great, but I don't understand how it works. I already spent a few nights playing around with it and trying to get it do what I wanted.  The capability probably is there and I will start learning this tool, but I know how to make BWP work so I am going with what I know.  I will say that BWS looks a lot better than it did the last time I looked at using it which was a couple of years ago, so I will invest the time to learn about this new tool. 

 

Roxanne:  That's for your reply.  I will download and try the new version 1.11 and let you know.  Question:  Did you make Sandrah compatible with Jarl's Adventure Pack.  You indicated you would, but never saw a confirmation.  I removed Jarl's for safety, but would really like to put back if I can.

The latest findings about Jarl are here http://www.shsforums...-51#entry586505 and in the next 3-4 entries after it.

If you go with Sandrah to Waterdeep prior Chapter 4, the mod-breaking episode can be avoided - for the rest...it is less important and I will only look into it again if Jarl becomes available for EET, but not anymore for the BGT version.

[The Imp]

I didn't know that SCS would assign kits to enemy NPCs.  How does it pick the kits? Random?  Why would it use the kits that I installed from PPK vs. kits from other mods?

It adds the clab files content of a few kit to a few enemies. On mages, it randomizes between a few sorts, so it doesn't use all of the possible, on fighters, a few enemies get Berserker kit, like the Ogre Berserkers, giants can get it too, I don't know of the rest. The system is definitely NOT perfect, but it tries. And no one else did, except the acid kensai... he heheheh. Anyways, the check, I don't know/remember of it's reasoning, but it has been there for ages and removing it is not the best ideas, as doing so might well introduce additional errors that can be sorted out ... or you just don't get to install the SCS on a broken game. The BWS at one point tried to tweak the check out, I don't know of the result... the common go around of the check is to add .spl files that are named as the resources that do nothing. As the .spl file only has the header.

[Roxanne]

Well I guess something good came from my SCS errors...I learned a little more about the SCS AI.  Thanks Imp.

 

Jarl, Jarl, Jarl:  I really like this mod, but I will remove to ensure I get a good initial experience with Sandrah.  Maybe in my spare time I will write a patch to fix Jarl for my installation (Give me an excuse to restart BG1), and then offer to the owner for inclusion in a later release.  No promises

I would do it the other way round - Sandrah will be removed from BGT pretty soon, so why bother about her still. Anyway, it may be a good idea to improve Jarl, many people like that mod and may want to play a safe version.

[Roxanne]

Roxanne,

 

I downloaded and tired the latest version just in case it wasn't updated.  I got .tis, .wav, and a movie.bif error.

Set you a screenshot since it is not in the debug file

There was an issue in the BWS around mid-February which may be your issue here

From BWP-manual *To be able to install Sandrah, you must copy the file worldmap.wmp IMMEDIATELY BEFORE INSTALLATION OF
THE MOD from the folder BiG World fixpack into the override folder.*

 

1. So you can either do this copy manually prior to installing Sandrah

or

2. Install BP-BWP-worldmap mod prior to Sandrah (in normal install order there is no other mod adding new maps, so this should be no problem)

or

3. Use latest BWS version, the problem there is now reported to be fixed