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#1 Niewiem

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Posted 07 January 2016 - 12:26 PM

Hi guys

Firstly I would like to really thank you for all your efforts in keeping this great game alive.
Secondly I am doing Tactical installation with few little changes and I have an error during installation.

"Shauhana for Shadow of Amn BGT (Sandrah NPC) was installed successfully.

 
ERROR: preprocessing APPEND_EARLY [SandrahNPC/ToB/TashiaSanTob.d]: Failure("resource [BTASHI25.DLG] not found for 'CHAIN3'")
ERROR: Failure("resource [BTASHI25.DLG] not found for 'CHAIN3'")
Sandrah ToB (BGT) (Sandrah NPC) was not installed due to errors.
 
You can try to repair the problem and start the installation of the component again.
In this case please select "retry" after the repair."

I am attaching current weidu.log and big world debug.
I would be very gratefull for help in solving this ;)
If you need any more information please ask I will provide all needed informatons :)


 

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Edited by Niewiem, 07 January 2016 - 12:29 PM.


#2 agb1

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Posted 07 January 2016 - 12:33 PM

You've installed Tashia SOA version (Tashia component 1) and it looks like Sandrah is expecting to patch Tashia TOB version (Tashia component 0), so there is an incorrect check in the Sandrah cross-mod code (it should only try to patch that part of Tashia's dialogue if component 0 is installed).

 

You'll find more logs from BWS in your BiG World Setup\Logs folder.  Please attach the BiG World Install.txt log from there and the setup-sandrahnpc.debug from your game folder.


Edited by agb1, 07 January 2016 - 12:35 PM.

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#3 Roxanne

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Posted 07 January 2016 - 12:39 PM

You've installed Tashia SOA version (Tashia component 1) and it looks like Sandrah is expecting to patch Tashia TOB version (Tashia component 0), so there is an incorrect check in the Sandrah cross-mod code (it should only try to patch that part of Tashia's dialogue if component 0 is installed).

 

You'll find more logs from BWS in your BiG World Setup\Logs folder.  Please attach the BiG World Install.txt log from there and the setup-sandrahnpc.debug from your game folder.

Just yesterday an issue was found with Tashia's ToB part and it looks like the BWS guys have already updated the install logic so that Tashia ToB is not installed automatically with SoA anymore. Sandrah has not yet this check - I just added it.

In order for you to continue

1. Download the attached tp2 file

2. Put it into the game folder (overwriting the existing one)

3. Try to install Sandrah again

Attached File  Setup-SandrahNPC.tp2   399.19K   189 downloads


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#4 Niewiem

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Posted 07 January 2016 - 12:44 PM

Hi and thanks for fast answer.
From what I read Tashia ToB is incompatibille with Sandra without some patch by Roxanne. Correct me if I am wrong :)
Attaching rquested files
It says that Big World Install Debug.txt is to big to upload :/

Thank yo for your answer Roxanne - trying with new TP2 file right now :)

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Edited by Niewiem, 07 January 2016 - 12:49 PM.


#5 agb1

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Posted 07 January 2016 - 12:47 PM

With Roxanne's revised tp2 file you should be fine to continue your current installation.  And yes, Tashia ToB is incompatible with Sandrah until we apply Roxanne's patch (untested).


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#6 Roxanne

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Posted 07 January 2016 - 12:57 PM

Hi and thanks for fast answer.
From what I read Tashia ToB is incompatibille with Sandra without some patch by Roxanne. Correct me if I am wrong :)
Attaching rquested files
It says that Big World Install Debug.txt is to big to upload :/

Thank yo for your answer Roxanne - trying with new TP2 file right now :)

Most likely Sandrah and Tashia are compatible provided you would use the revised Tashia25J.d from here http://www.shsforums...od/#entry584737 but nobody has yet tested it in game (like said earlier, it has just been discovered that the Tashia dialogue had some problems affecting every mod that requires the final ToB dialogue.) You are free to test it.


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#7 Niewiem

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Posted 07 January 2016 - 01:06 PM

It worked - thank you really much :)

To test it I would need to make new installation right?



#8 Roxanne

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Posted 07 January 2016 - 01:20 PM

It worked - thank you really much :)

To test it I would need to make new installation right?

Your headline says you do a tactical install - so why bother - neither Sandrah nor Tashia are tactical mods.


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#9 Niewiem

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Posted 07 January 2016 - 01:26 PM

I`d like to have as much content as possible in my game. I am 100% sure that I will be using Sandrah :)
I also like the challenge that comes form tactical mods that is why I am using BWS to get as much content and challenge as possible :)
If it is possible I would like to help in testing mods and making BWS better :)



#10 agb1

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Posted 07 January 2016 - 01:54 PM

You could try the Tashia patch with a new installation if you want to gamble that Roxanne's patch worked (this is a good bet, I think).  But the patched dialogue file for Tashia will only come into effect in TOB, but to get to TOB with Sandrah, Imoen and Tashia in the proper states (romanced/quests done/etc.), I think you either have to play from the beginning of BG1 (for Sandrah) or use CLUAConsole to set all of the appropriate Globals to test each dialogue branch.  So unless you know what you are doing and use CLUAConsole, it will take a while to play all the way from BG1 to TOB, and by then someone else will probably have tested the patch.


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#11 Niewiem

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Posted 07 January 2016 - 01:58 PM

Ok then I will probably pass on that as I will by going from the beginning of BG1 :)



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Posted 07 January 2016 - 01:58 PM

You could try the Tashia patch with a new installation if you want to gamble that Roxanne's patch worked (this is a good bet, I think).  But the patched dialogue file for Tashia will only come into effect in TOB, but to get to TOB with Sandrah, Imoen and Tashia in the proper states (romanced/quests done/etc.), I think you either have to play from the beginning of BG1 (for Sandrah) or use CLUAConsole to set all of the appropriate Globals to test each dialogue branch.  So unless you know what you are doing and use CLUAConsole, it will take a while to play all the way from BG1 to TOB, and by then someone else will probably have tested the patch.

Exactly, we are talking about the final dialogue of the official trilogy, if it fails you do not get the end bios and the credits screen - unless you want to play the Sandrah RtF sequel. And this is why this dialogue and everything that may corrupt it is of such importance for my mod.

PS - the way the patched version is written, nothing can go wrong if Tashia is NOT in your party by ToB end. having her would be a test. And, by the way, there may be issues from other mods as well that are not yet found.


Edited by Roxanne, 07 January 2016 - 02:01 PM.

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#13 Niewiem

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Posted 07 January 2016 - 02:38 PM

I will try to find and report them :)



#14 Niewiem

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Posted 09 January 2016 - 02:27 AM

Hi all
Rest of installation went smoothly. I played from start to Friendly Arm Inn yesterday and I have few problems/questions compared to when i played BWS earlier.

1) Imoen has 1 spell slot up to level 8 of spells at the beginning of game 
2) On the first area after candelkeep (one that gorion dies) in upper left corner there is a group of kobolds - in my earlier walkthroughs this group was upgraded there were kobold commandos and hobgoblins with better arrows. I don`t know which mod changed that earlier but it seems that I did not have it installed this time and I would like to have it :D
3) Usher told me that she wants her belt from the Ogre. I already have this belt with me but Usher has nothing to say to me all the time...
4) When joining me Sandrah starts at level 5(lvl 2 priest and lvl 3 of her second class or the other way around - don`t remember now) compared to my level 1 character. Don`t know if this is intended or not.

That is all for now - I might consider reinstalling if those are known issues that I can fix fast. None of those issues are game breaking for me so I can play further and report all that I find :)

Thanks again for all the help :)

If you need any more info please ask I will try to provide as fast as possible.
 

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#15 Roxanne

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Posted 09 January 2016 - 02:43 AM

Hi all
Rest of installation went smoothly. I played from start to Friendly Arm Inn yesterday and I have few problems/questions compared to when i played BWS earlier.

1) Imoen has 1 spell slot up to level 8 of spells at the beginning of game 
2) On the first area after candelkeep (one that gorion dies) in upper left corner there is a group of kobolds - in my earlier walkthroughs this group was upgraded there were kobold commandos and hobgoblins with better arrows. I don`t know which mod changed that earlier but it seems that I did not have it installed this time and I would like to have it :D
3) Usher told me that she wants her belt from the Ogre. I already have this belt with me but Usher has nothing to say to me all the time...
4) When joining me Sandrah starts at level 5(lvl 2 priest and lvl 3 of her second class or the other way around - don`t remember now) compared to my level 1 character. Don`t know if this is intended or not.

That is all for now - I might consider reinstalling if those are known issues that I can fix fast. None of those issues are game breaking for me so I can play further and report all that I find :)

Thanks again for all the help :)

If you need any more info please ask I will try to provide as fast as possible.
 

regarding 1) I have observed this behaviour at times - I have never identified the mod that does it, normally it disappears when Imoen levels up next time. I would be happy to know which mod causes this myself (It is not Imoen alone but every other spellcaster as well)

regarding 2) The spawns up there are random (1 of 3) you cannot rely to always face the same ones here

regarding 3) no idea

regarding 4) all creatures from the Sandrah mod appear at a fixed level representing their history and experience (neither NPCs nor encounters follow the stereotype to match PC's experience - you may have encounters that you cannot face right at the beginning and may avoid at low level, this is intended.) And Sandrah is not at level5 but at level2 (levels of multi-class creatures do not add up) - she is not a whelp fresh out of her home but has made a journey from Waterdeep alone to meet you, so she already gained some experience before you meet.


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#16 Niewiem

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Posted 09 January 2016 - 02:47 AM

Great thanks for answers! :)

Regarding 2 - I have played 3 times earlier and every time met same enhanced group that is why I asked :)

I will probably continue then and report what I will find :)



#17 Roxanne

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Posted 09 January 2016 - 02:56 AM

Great thanks for answers! :)

Regarding 2 - I have played 3 times earlier and every time met same enhanced group that is why I asked :)

I will probably continue then and report what I will find :)

All enemies you face in that area (aside from wolfs, bears and gibberlings from vanilla game) are subject of some mod or other, so what you get with respect to creatures carrying any equipment always depends on the mods you have installed etc.

Especially a tactical game selection will give you less equipped foe to make your play harder - that is what you asked for playing tactical.


Edited by Roxanne, 09 January 2016 - 02:58 AM.

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#18 Niewiem

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Posted 09 January 2016 - 05:36 AM

I did not mean drops that i get. Every time I played earlier this group of mobs gave me a lot of trouble and this time they were just easy ;) this is why I asked cause this group power level went down :D



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Posted 09 January 2016 - 09:51 AM

2) On the first area after candelkeep (one that gorion dies) in upper left corner there is a group of kobolds - in my earlier walkthroughs this group was upgraded there were kobold commandos and hobgoblins with better arrows. I don`t know which mod changed that earlier but it seems that I did not have it installed this time and I would like to have it :D

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#20 Niewiem

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Posted 09 January 2016 - 10:12 AM

I have this one installed so something that I installed later had to remove those changes...
~DSOTSC/SETUP-DSOTSC.TP2~ #0 #5 // DSotSC for BGT-Weidu: v 2.17 BWP Fix