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[Hack'N'Slash]

was that the enable sandrahrtf check by any chance? If so I did select it.

 

could be error my side, i'll try again with latest bws

[agb1]

Hmm, I'm not sure how you managed to get an install started with Sandrah RTF selected but without Sandrah NPC.

 

BWS includes this rule:  Return to Faerun needs Sandrah=D:SandrahRtF(-):SandrahNPC(-)

 

Please upload your weidu.log too.

[agb1]

Considering where you are in the install, you can manually run setup-SandrahNPC.exe and install all components, then continue BWS.

[Hack'N'Slash]

If I get an error this time round I'll up my log. 

 

after selecting sandrahmaster.zip i'm now starting again, shouldn't be too long.

[Hack'N'Slash]

Ok, got back to that same point:

 

NOT INSTALLED DUE TO ERRORS Sandrah RtF Cross Mod Contents

 

ERROR: Failure("The complete Sandrah mod must be installed before the extension can be installed.")

SandrahRTF Check for required Installation (Sandrah - Return to Faerun (pre-release)) was not installed due to errors.

 

All Sandrah check boxes are ticked and Sandrah NPC has a few parsing errors. Unless I'm butchering this on the conflict page?

 

 

Attached Files

•  SETUP-SANDRAHRTF.DEBUG   646.06K   131 downloads
•  Setup-SandrahNPC.debug   1.37K   142 downloads
•  WeiDU.log   117.98K   112 downloads

[Roxanne]

Ok, got back to that same point:

 

NOT INSTALLED DUE TO ERRORS Sandrah RtF Cross Mod Contents

 

ERROR: Failure("The complete Sandrah mod must be installed before the extension can be installed.")

SandrahRTF Check for required Installation (Sandrah - Return to Faerun (pre-release)) was not installed due to errors.

 

All Sandrah check boxes are ticked and Sandrah NPC has a few parsing errors. Unless I'm butchering this on the conflict page?

 

 

In deed - there was a typo introduced in the latest update - Sorry for that.

Just replace Setup-SandrahNPC.tp2 in the SandrahNPC folder with the attached file

[Hack'N'Slash]

Thanks for that. 

 

Looking forward to this mod when EET is released.

[Hack'N'Slash]

ok, think i might have to start again, might explain all the conflicts I got before installation. There's quite a few errors at thee end....

Attached Files

•  BiG World Debug.txt   120.88K   126 downloads

[Roxanne]

ok, think i might have to start again, might explain all the conflicts I got before installation. There's quite a few errors at thee end....

No, this has nothing to do with conflicts prior installation - this only explains why Sandrah itself failed in the end. All the issues agb1 identified are valid.

 

@agb1 - since there were a couple of issue between BWS and Sandrah components recently - and given that Sandrah for BGT is now pure bugfixiing and thus will remain stable (all new contents will only be developped for EET) - it may be a good idea to take the components from the mod out and make both SandrahNPC + RtF just one block each? None of the components is optional and the breaking into modules was just for quicker recovery. Let me know what you think - we would need to synchronise the change in my tp2s and BWS.

[Roxanne]

Sandrah crossmod updated

Sandrah - Ajantis relationship removed by request of Ajantis OWNER.

Sandrah will leave party when Ajantis joins female led party (if PC qualifies for Ajantis romance).

Edited by Roxanne, 23 January 2016 - 02:52 AM.

[jastey]

Thank you for the quick removing of out-of-character crossmod content.

 

Sandrah will leave party when Ajantis joins female led party (if PC qualifies for Ajantis romance).

What is the objective reason for this exclusion?

Edited by jastey, 23 January 2016 - 03:26 AM.

[Roxanne]

Thank you for the quick removing of out-of-character crossmod content.

 

Sandrah will leave party when Ajantis joins female led party (if PC qualifies for Ajantis romance).

What is the objective reason for this exclusion?

PC committing fully and exclusively to Ajantis is not compatible with any PC to Sandrah relationship.

Problem with NPCs like Ajantis or Saerileth is that they close all other options and dictate the further storyline.

I have tried to provide some compatibility to avoid that but have failed.

PC finally even marrying Ajantis closes the door for Sandrah in ToB and beyond. Romance conflict to be resolved by her leaving.

[jastey]

Are you saying that if Sandrah is in the party the PC will have a love relation ship with her no matter what? Doesn't the PC get to chose, and in case of e.g. Ajantis, would have the choice to choose to have a one-man-only relationship? I am confused.

 

Another question: Sandrah NPC mod adds a lot of portraits to NPCs, original and from mods. This is not mentioned in the readme where I would expect at least a warning? Do you plan on making this an install choice, as in, if the player already chose a portrait, for, e.g. Gavin than that might actually be the one the player wanted to use?

[Roxanne]

Are you saying that if Sandrah is in the party the PC will have a love relation ship with her no matter what? Doesn't the PC get to chose, and in case of e.g. Ajantis, would have the choice to choose to have a one-man-only relationship? I am confused.

 

Another question: Sandrah NPC mod adds a lot of portraits to NPCs, original and from mods. This is not mentioned in the readme where I would expect at least a warning? Do you plan on making this an install choice, as in, if the player already chose a portrait, for, e.g. Gavin than that might actually be the one the player wanted to use?

Actually it is the opposite - and it is not related to Sandrah alone - if the PC decides to spend her further life with Ajantis this is a choice made by the PC and no one else. This makes some other options obsolete in the same way as any other romance conflicts in the game. In many cases, the consequence is one of the NPCs leaving.

 

I will check later today which other of your mods I may have affected and do a clean-up to remove any contents.

[jastey]

I would appreciate taking out your version of The Lure of Sirine's Call (which is a mod by Ghreyfain, not me.) it has an up-to-date version at PPG, so it doesn't need to be "resurrected", I would think (especially not by checking for ~J#lig2.BCS~ which is not present in the original mod)?
 
I don't mind your I_C_T into the bgqe Orklover component. I don't mind NPC commenting about my quests.
 
I don't mind your extention of Daron's fight against the deamon. I am not exactly happy with it, it doesn't fit the original quest design, nor the deamon it described, but it gives a warm glowing feeling in the heart.
 
I am not happy about you turning Sandrah into the PC for a male PC in case of RE Bjornin. Why, he does even say the same lines - without giving the PC even a look. Did you change the BG1 encounter to a Sandrah - only encounter or did Bjornin turn into a flirter with eyes on female healers only? -Seeing how you use the RE wordings, please remove this, or rewrite it. If you think that Bjornin needs to hop into bed with your NPC then go on, but at least do it in your own words. And let him say hello to the PC, at least? (Please without using my own variables, in this case "C#RE_MetBjornin" - if mods start changing other mod's trigger variables, bug hunting gets a real PITA. C# is my prefix, please use variables with your own.)
 
-Oh dear, Gavin also needs Sandrah's councel now or he is not able to propose to CHARNAME... Unfortunately, berelinde is not here to speak for herself.
 
If I missed any content related to mods of mine, let me know.

Edited by jastey, 23 January 2016 - 12:21 PM.

[Samriel]

Thank you for the quick removing of out-of-character crossmod content.

 

Sandrah will leave party when Ajantis joins female led party (if PC qualifies for Ajantis romance).

What is the objective reason for this exclusion?

PC committing fully and exclusively to Ajantis is not compatible with any PC to Sandrah relationship.

Problem with NPCs like Ajantis or Saerileth is that they close all other options and dictate the further storyline.

I have tried to provide some compatibility to avoid that but have failed.

PC finally even marrying Ajantis closes the door for Sandrah in ToB and beyond. Romance conflict to be resolved by her leaving.

So there is a chance that Sandrah finally got some clingy/jealousy moments with the more emotionally involving NPCS or if the PC kinda does not seem to be attracted to her at all?

 

That would be so cute.

[Roxanne]

Thank you for the quick removing of out-of-character crossmod content.

 

Sandrah will leave party when Ajantis joins female led party (if PC qualifies for Ajantis romance).

What is the objective reason for this exclusion?

PC committing fully and exclusively to Ajantis is not compatible with any PC to Sandrah relationship.

Problem with NPCs like Ajantis or Saerileth is that they close all other options and dictate the further storyline.

I have tried to provide some compatibility to avoid that but have failed.

PC finally even marrying Ajantis closes the door for Sandrah in ToB and beyond. Romance conflict to be resolved by her leaving.

So there is a chance that Sandrah finally got some clingy/jealousy moments with the more emotionally involving NPCS or if the PC kinda does not seem to be attracted to her at all?

 

That would be so cute.

You misunderstood - all contents between Sandrah and Ajantis will be removed, except for the interject in the initial meeting (vanilla contents) in which they admit they know each other from Waterdeep.

[Roxanne]

I would appreciate taking out your version of The Lure of Sirine's Call (which is a mod by Ghreyfain, not me.) it has an up-to-date version at PPG, so it doesn't need to be "resurrected", I would think (especially not by checking for ~J#lig2.BCS~ which is not present in the original mod)?

Yes I found that recently. It appeared lost for a time but thanks for confirming that ressurection is not needed.

I don't mind your I_C_T into the bgqe Orklover component. I don't mind NPC commenting about my quests.

This is not so much related to your quest but an interlude between Sandrah and Imoen - There is another guy in the area from vanilla game who will serve the same purpose just as well.

I don't mind your extention of Daron's fight against the deamon. I am not exactly happy with it, it doesn't fit the original quest design, nor the deamon it described, but it gives a warm glowing feeling in the heart.

Not sure if this means yes or no - so I will delete it.

I am not happy about you turning Sandrah into the PC for a male PC in case of RE Bjornin. Why, he does even say the same lines - without giving the PC even a look. Did you change the BG1 encounter to a Sandrah - only encounter or did Bjornin turn into a flirter with eyes on female healers only? -Seeing how you use the RE wordings, please remove this, or rewrite it. If you think that Bjornin needs to hop into bed with your NPC then go on, but at least do it in your own words. And let him say hello to the PC, at least? (Please without using my own variables, in this case "C#RE_MetBjornin" - if mods start changing other mod's trigger variables, bug hunting gets a real PITA. C# is my prefix, please use variables with your own.)

In this case I had the Beregost encounter already long before RE expanded into BG1 as well. Seemed logical to continue it in BG2 (only for the case that PC was not possible). Will remove the BG2 encounter, nothing that is really needed.

 -Oh dear, Gavin also needs Sandrah's councel now or he is not able to propose to CHARNAME... Unfortunately, berelinde is not here to speak for herself.

Gavin crossmod will be removed.

If I missed any content related to mods of mine, let me know.

Edited by Roxanne, 23 January 2016 - 12:52 PM.

[Samriel]

You misunderstood - all contents between Sandrah and Ajantis will be removed, except for the interject in the initial meeting (vanilla contents) in which they admit they know each other from Waterdeep.

Nah, I meant that given how seemingly things can get "troublesome" when the PC gets involved with some NPCS then perhaps there are some interactions between the PC and Sandrah that can invoke Sandrah's jealous side...due to OTHER NPCS than Ajantis.

 

And its a shame about Ajantis himself but there are still so many other mods that interact with Sandrah that it shouldn't be a big loss.

[Roxanne]

You misunderstood - all contents between Sandrah and Ajantis will be removed, except for the interject in the initial meeting (vanilla contents) in which they admit they know each other from Waterdeep.

Nah, I meant that given how seemingly things can get "troublesome" when the PC gets involved with some NPCS then perhaps there are some interactions between the PC and Sandrah that can invoke Sandrah's jealous side...due to OTHER NPCS than Ajantis.

 

And its a shame about Ajantis himself but there are still so many other mods that interact with Sandrah that it shouldn't be a big loss.

To come up with some crossmod contents means that I can somehow relate to that NPC, i.e. it is a mod I like and I want to pay my respect to. Sometimes you can fail in that, just like in this case. Helm once killed Mystra.

Gavin is sad, those two really were on the same wavelength with their seeking and questioning things etc.

Edited by Roxanne, 23 January 2016 - 01:27 PM.