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[tibicina]

Is Player-Initiated-Dialogue the same thing as "force-talking"?

 

I'm working on a new NPC and am having difficulty getting the right written content to display when I click on the character. Right now, when I click on the player character, the face icon, and the npc, the game displays one of my friend-talks instead of the "flirts" content.

 

Now, I understand (sorta) why it's pulling up that content. My .baf file lists that particular talk as 1:

 

Spoiler

//Dialogues

 

IF

    InParty(Myself)

    RealGlobalTimerExpired("TIMaethTalksTimer","GLOBAL")

    Global("TIMaethShutUp","GLOBAL",0)

    See(Player1)

    !StateCheck(Myself,CD_STATE_NOTVALID)

    !StateCheck(Player1,CD_STATE_NOTVALID)

    CombatCounter(0)

    !See([ENEMY])

    !AreaType(DUNGEON)

    OR(22)

      Global("TIMaethTalks","GLOBAL",1)  //1 - No conditions: Friend Talk

      Global("TIMaethTalks","GLOBAL",3)  //2 - No conditions: Friend Talk

      Global("TIMaethTalks","GLOBAL",5)  //3 - No conditions: Friend Talk

      Global("TIMaethLoveTalks","GLOBAL",1)  //4 - LT 1: Reverie uses dream script TIMaethD.BAF <--- This talk displays

      Global("TIMaethTalks","GLOBAL",9)  //5 - Post-rest, but not necessarily after LT 1

      Global("TIMaethTalks","GLOBAL",11) //6 - No conditions

      Global("TIMaethTalks","GLOBAL",13) //7 - No conditions

 

But I'd like to find out how to get it to display the right content. Do I have to renumber all the blocks? 

 

[tibicina]

Here's the whole .baf for reference and the love-talk in question:

 

Spoiler

//Dialogues

 

IF

    InParty(Myself)

    RealGlobalTimerExpired("TIMaethTalksTimer","GLOBAL")

    Global("TIMaethShutUp","GLOBAL",0)

    See(Player1)

    !StateCheck(Myself,CD_STATE_NOTVALID)

    !StateCheck(Player1,CD_STATE_NOTVALID)

    CombatCounter(0)

    !See([ENEMY])

    !AreaType(DUNGEON)

    OR(22)

      Global("TIMaethTalks","GLOBAL",1)  //1 - No conditions: Friend Talk

      Global("TIMaethTalks","GLOBAL",3)  //2 - No conditions: Friend Talk

      Global("TIMaethTalks","GLOBAL",5)  //3 - No conditions: Friend Talk

      Global("TIMaethLoveTalks","GLOBAL",1)  //4 - LT 1: Reverie uses dream script TIMaethD.BAF  <--This displays in PID

      Global("TIMaethTalks","GLOBAL",9)  //5 - Post-rest, but not necessarily after LT 1

      Global("TIMaethTalks","GLOBAL",11) //6 - No conditions

      Global("TIMaethTalks","GLOBAL",13) //7 - No conditions

      Global("TIMaethLoveTalks","GLOBAL",3) //8 - LT 2: Bathtime uses dream script TIMaethD.BAF

      Global("TIMaethLoveTalks","GLOBAL",5) //9 - Post-rest LT 3

      Global("TIMaethTalks","GLOBAL",19) //10 - No conditions

      Global("TIMaethTalks","GLOBAL",21) //11 - Post-rest

      Global("TIMaethLoveTalks","GLOBAL",7) //12 - LT 4: Childhood Revisited

      Global("TIMaethTalks","GLOBAL",25) //13 - No conditions

      Global("TIMaethLoveTalks","GLOBAL",9) //14 - LT 5 uses dream script TIMaethD.BAF

      Global("TIMaethTalks","GLOBAL",29) //15 - No conditions

      Global("TIMaethLoveTalks","GLOBAL",11) //16 - LT 6 uses dream script TIMaethD.BAF

      Global("TIMaethLoveTalks","GLOBAL",13) //17 - Post-rest LT 7

      Global("TIMaethLoveTalks","GLOBAL",15) //18 - LT 8 uses dream script TIMaethD.BAF

      Global("TIMaethLoveTalks","GLOBAL",17) //19 - LT 9 uses dream script TIMaethD.BAF

      Global("TIMaethLoveTalks","GLOBAL",19) //20 - LT10 Post-rest

      Global("TIMaethTalks","GLOBAL",41) //21 - No conditions

      Global("TIMaethLoveTalks","GLOBAL",21) //22 - LT 10: Concerning Rings uses dream script TIMaethD.BAF

 

THEN

  RESPONSE #100

  IncrementGlobal("TIMaethTalks","GLOBAL",1) <-------  I have both FriendTalks and LoveTalks incrementing here. Is it ok to

  IncrementGlobal("TIMaethLoveTalks","GLOBAL",1) <--- "mix" the two talks and use the same timer? Or should I make

END                                                                                     two separate .bafs for LoveTalks and FriendTalks?

 

//UnRomanced Version

 

IF

    InParty(Myself)

    Global("TIMaethShutUp","GLOBAL",0)

    Global("TIMaethFriendActive","GLOBAL",1)

    !Global("TIMaethRomanceActive","GLOBAL",1)

    See(Player1)

    !StateCheck(Player1,CD_STATE_NOTVALID)

    !StateCheck(Myself,CD_STATE_NOTVALID)

    CombatCounter(0)

    !See([ENEMY])

    !AreaType(DUNGEON)

    OR(13)

      Global("TIMaethTalks","GLOBAL",2)  //1

      Global("TIMaethTalks","GLOBAL",4)  //2

      Global("TIMaethTalks","GLOBAL",6)  //3

//      Global("TIMaethLoveTalks","GLOBAL",2)  //4  Outdoor, Night, Pre-rest

//      Global("TIMaethTalks","GLOBAL",10)  //5  Outdoor, Day, Post-rest

      Global("TIMaethTalks","GLOBAL",12) //6

      Global("TIMaethTalks","GLOBAL",14) //7

//      Global("TIMaethLoveTalks","GLOBAL",4) //8  Inn, Night, Pre-rest

//      Global("TIMaethLoveTalks","GLOBAL",6) //9  Inn, Day, Post-rest 'Morning After'

      Global("TIMaethTalks","GLOBAL",20) //10

      Global("TIMaethTalks","GLOBAL",22) //11

      Global("TIMaethLoveTalks","GLOBAL", //12

      Global("TIMaethTalks","GLOBAL",26) //13

      Global("TIMaethLoveTalks","GLOBAL",10) //14

      Global("TIMaethTalks","GLOBAL",30) //15

//      Global("TIMaethLoveTalks","GLOBAL",12) //16  Forest, Night, Pre-Rest

//      Global("TIMaethLoveTalks","GLOBAL",14) //17  Forest, Day, Post-rest 'Morning After'

      Global("TIMaethLoveTalks","GLOBAL",16) //18

//      Global("TIMaethLoveTalks","GLOBAL",18) //19  Inn, Night, Pre-rest

//      Global("TIMaethLoveTalks","GLOBAL",20) //20  Inn, Day, Post-rest

      Global("TIMaethTalks","GLOBAL",42) //21

//      Global("TIMaethTalks","GLOBAL",44) //22  Outdoor, Night, Pre-rest

 

THEN

  RESPONSE #100

    StartDialogueNoSet(Player1)

  END

 

//Romanced Version

 

IF

    InParty(Myself)

    Global("TIMaethShutUp","GLOBAL",0)

    Global("TIMaethFriendActive","GLOBAL",1)

    Global("TIMaethRomanceActive","GLOBAL",1)

    See(Player1)

    !StateCheck(Player1,CD_STATE_NOTVALID)

    !StateCheck(Myself,CD_STATE_NOTVALID)

    CombatCounter(0)

    !See([ENEMY])

    !AreaType(DUNGEON)

    OR(13)

      Global("TIMaethTalks","GLOBAL",2)  //1

      Global("TIMaethTalks","GLOBAL",4)  //2

      Global("TIMaethTalks","GLOBAL",6)  //3

//      Global("TIMaethLoveTalks","GLOBAL",2)  //4  Outdoor, Night, Pre-rest (Love Talk 1)

//      Global("TIMaethTalks","GLOBAL",10)  //5  Outdoor, Day, Post-rest

      Global("TIMaethTalks","GLOBAL",12) //6

      Global("TIMaethTalks","GLOBAL",14) //7

//      Global("TIMaethLoveTalks","GLOBAL",4) //8  Inn, Night, Pre-rest (Love Talk 2)

//      Global("TIMaethLoveTalks","GLOBAL",6) //9  Inn, Day, Post-rest 'Morning After'  (Love Talk 3)

      Global("TIMaethTalks","GLOBAL",20) //10

      Global("TIMaethTalks","GLOBAL",22) //11  Post-rest

      Global("TIMaethLoveTalks","GLOBAL", //12  (Love Talk 4)

      Global("TIMaethTalks","GLOBAL",26) //13

      Global("TIMaethLoveTalks","GLOBAL",10) //14  (Love Talk 5)

      Global("TIMaethTalks","GLOBAL",30) //15

//      Global("TIMaethLoveTalks","GLOBAL",12) //16  Forest, Night, Pre-rest (Love Talk 6)

//      Global("TIMaethLoveTalks","GLOBAL",14) //17  Forest, Day, Post-rest 'Morning After' (Love Talk 7)

      Global("TIMaethLoveTalks","GLOBAL",16) //18    (Love Talk

//      Global("TIMaethLoveTalks","GLOBAL",18) //19  Inn, Night, Pre-rest (Love Talk 9)

//      Global("TIMaethLoveTalks","GLOBAL",20) //20  Inn, Day, Post-rest  (Love Talk 10)

      Global("TIMaethTalks","GLOBAL",42) //21

//      Global("TIMaethLoveTalks","GLOBAL",22) //22   Night, Pre-rest (Love Talk 11)

 

THEN

  RESPONSE #100

PlaySong(0)

PlaySound("TIApril")

StartDialogueNoSet(Player1)

END

 

Spoiler

//(MaethTalk #4) Love Talk #1 Reverie (Outdoor, Night, Pre-Rest, With Belt)

 

CHAIN  <---Notice the global below is incremented to 2...

IF ~Global("TIMaethLoveTalks","GLOBAL",2)  HasItemEquiped("%tutu_var%BELT05","TIMaeth")~ THEN TIMaethJ ATILT4

~*You are sitting by the fire, watching the flames, your body wrapped up in the snug softness of your bedroll. Your body is weary, but your mind will not let go of the events of the day. Even the hypnotic dance of the fire does nothing to soothe you. Then you hear the soft pad of footsteps near you and you look up to see Maethor, barefoot and dressed in his black shirt and breeches, looking down at you.~

==TIMaethJ~May I ask you a personal question, <CHARNAME>?~ DO ~IncrementGlobal("TIMaethLoveTalks","GLOBAL",1) SetGlobal("TIMaethTalks","GLOBAL",9) RealSetGlobalTimer("TIMaethTalksTimer","GLOBAL",3600)~

END <----- Here I reset the FriendTalk global so that it should be correct for the next FriendTalk.

+ ~RACE(Player1, ELF)~ + ~Certainly.~ + A30.1

+ ~RACE(Player1, ELF)~ + ~That depends. I'm not really in the mood for a philosophical discussion right now.~ + A30.2

+ ~RACE(Player1, ELF)~ + ~No.~ + A30.3

+ ~!RACE(Player1, ELF)~ + ~Certainly.~ + A30.1.1

+ ~!RACE(Player1, ELF)~ + ~That depends. I'm not really in the mood for a philosophical discussion right now.~ + A30.1.2.1

+ ~!RACE(Player1, ELF)~ + ~No.~ + A30.1.3.1

 

CHAIN

IF ~~ THEN TIMaethJ A30.1

~*Maethor squats down next to you.* I just wondered why you choose to sleep every night.~

END

++ ~What else would I do? Stay awake?~ + A30.1A

++ ~Is this some kind of strange philosophical question?~ + A30.1B

++ ~Perhaps because I don't have you as a hauthwaid...a bed-partner?~ + A30.1C

 

CHAIN

IF ~~ THEN TIMaethJ A30.2

~*Maethor shrugs, choosing to ignore the barb, and squats down next to you.* I just wondered why you choose to sleep every night.~

END

++ ~What else would I do? Stay awake?~ + A30.1A

++ ~Is this some kind of strange philosophical question? I thought I just said...~ + A30.1B

++ ~Perhaps because I don't have you as a hauthwaid...a bed-partner?~ + A30.1C

 

 

CHAIN

IF ~~ THEN TIMaethJ A30.3

~No need to get defensive. I just wondered why you choose to sleep every night.~

END

++ ~What else would I do? Stay awake?~ + A30.1A

++ ~Perhaps because I don't have you as a hauthwaid...a bed-partner?~ + A30.1C

++ ~Maethor, I'm not in the mood for this.~ + A30.3B

 

CHAIN

IF ~~ THEN TIMaethJ A30.3B

~*Rising and dusting off his legs.* Fine, fine. Have a good night.~

DO ~IncrementGlobal("TIMaethOffend","GLOBAL",1) RestParty()~

END

 

 

CHAIN

IF ~~ THEN TIMaethJ A30.1A

~*Maethor smiles thinly, giving you a puzzled look. Then his forehead clears and he slaps his knee.* I am so dense sometimes! You were raised by Adan! Have you never walked in memory? Reached out for the weft of our people?~

END

++ ~The what?~ + A30.4

 

 

CHAIN

IF ~~ THEN TIMaethJ A30.1B

~*Maethor raises his eyebrows.* I heard you. This isn't about philosophy... * He gives you a puzzled look. Then his forehead clears and he slaps his knee.* I am so dense sometimes! You were raised by Adan! You don't know what I'm talking about, do you? Let me try again. Have you never walked in memory? Reached out for the weft of our people?~

END

++ ~The what?~ + A30.4

 

 

CHAIN

IF ~~ THEN TIMaethJ A30.1C

~*Maethor smiles thinly, giving you a puzzled look. Then his forehead clears and he slaps his knee.* I am so dense sometimes! No, no... I'm not talking about... *blush* that. I mean, have you ever walked in memory? Reached out for the weft of our people?~

DO ~ IncrementGlobal("TIMaethLove","GLOBAL",1)~

END

++ ~The what?~ + A30.4

 

CHAIN

IF ~~ THEN TIMaethJ A30.4

~Nevermind my pitiful poetics. Paladins should never attempt to be bards! I'm talking about Reverie. Every Edhellen--elf--can knowingly relive any part of their past or join the memories of other elves or even, if you're particularly fortunate and your deity wishes to communicate with you, you can commune with the divine. It's actually more restful for your mind. Normally, your mother would've shared your dreams before you were born and directly taught you to reverie while you were still a child.~

END

++ ~So what can I do about it now? I've slept my whole life!~ + A30.4A

++ ~Maybe she had a reason not to.~ + A30.4B

 

CHAIN

IF ~~ THEN TIMaethJ A30.4A

~I can do what your mother should have done, in a way. Will you walk with me, <CHARNAME>?~

END

++ ~Okay.~ + A30.5

++ ~Um, no. This frightens me, Maethor. I mean, I may look like an elf, but that doesn't mean I am one. Maybe it's dangerous.~ + A30.6

 

CHAIN

IF ~~ THEN TIMaethJ A30.4B

~Perhaps. Does the idea of walking in spirit frighten you too much to try even once?~

END

++ ~No... I'm not frightened. Just cautious. I'll trust you this once...~ + A30.5

++ ~I just want to be cautious. I know almost nothing about my family. Sure, I look like an elf, but maybe I'm not. Maybe it's dangerous.~ + A30.6

 

CHAIN

IF ~~ THEN TIMaethJ A30.1.1

~*Maethor squats down next to you.* I just wondered if you'd like to not sleep tonight.~

END

++ ~What else would I do? Stay awake?~ + A30.1.1A

++ ~Is this some strange kind of philosophical question? Didn't I just say...~+ A30.1.1B

++ ~*Grin* Well, this is sudden! I didn't think I'd get a bedroll companion tonight! What did you have in mind, Maethor?~ + A30.1.1C

 

CHAIN

IF ~~ THEN TIMaethJ A30.1.2.1

~*Maethor shrugs, choosing to ignore the barb, and squats down next to you.* This isn't a philosophical question. I just wondered if you'd like to not sleep tonight.~

END

++ ~What else would I do? Stay awake?~ + A30.1.1A

++ ~Is this some strange kind of philosophical question? Didn't I just say...~+ A30.1.1B

++ ~*Grin* Well, this is sudden! I didn't think I'd get a bedroll companion tonight! What did you have in mind, Maethor?~ + A30.1.1C

 

CHAIN

IF ~~ THEN TIMaethJ A30.1.3.1

~No need to get defensive. I just wondered if you'd like to not sleep tonight.~

END

++ ~What else would I do? Stay awake?~ + A30.1.1A

++ ~Is this some strange kind of philosophical question? Didn't I just say...~+ A30.1.1B

++ ~*Grin* Well, this is sudden! I didn't think I'd get a bedroll companion tonight! What did you have in mind, Maethor?~ + A30.1.1C

++ ~Maethor, I'm not in the mood for this.~ + A30.3B

 

CHAIN

IF ~~ THEN TIMaethJ A30.1.1A

~No, no. I mean, have you ever wondered why elves don't have to sleep?~

END

++ ~Yes! That memory thing! What ever you call it....~ + A30.1.2

++ ~I suppose. I hadn't really thought about it, actually.~ + A30.1.3

++ ~You mean reverie?~ + A30.1.2

+ ~InParty("Kivan")~ + ~No. From what I can tell from Kivan's reverie, it doesn't seem pleasant.~ + A30.1.5

++ ~Not really. I'm too tired for this, Maethor.~ + A30.1.6

 

CHAIN

IF ~~ THEN TIMaethJ A30.1.1B

~This isn't a philosophical question. Really. I mean, have you ever wondered why elves don't have to sleep?~

END

++ ~Yes! That memory thing! What ever you call it....~ + A30.1.2

++ ~I suppose. I hadn't really thought about it, actually.~ + A30.1.3

++ ~You mean reverie?~ + A30.1.2

+ ~InParty("Kivan")~+ ~No. From what I can tell from Kivan's reverie, it doesn't seem pleasant.~ + A30.1.5

++ ~Not really. I'm too tired for this, Maethor.~ + A30.1.6

 

CHAIN

IF ~~ THEN TIMaethJ A30.1.1C

~*Maethor smiles thinly, giving you a puzzled look. Then his forehead clears and he slaps his knee.* I am so dense sometimes! No, no... I'm not talking about... *blush* that. I mean, have you ever wondered why elves don't have to sleep?~

DO ~ IncrementGlobal("TIMaethLove","GLOBAL",1)~

END

++ ~Yes! That memory thing! What ever you call it....~ + A30.1.2

++ ~I suppose. I hadn't really thought about it, actually.~ + A30.1.3

++ ~You mean reverie?~ + A30.1.2

+ ~InParty("Kivan")~ + ~No. From what I can tell from Kivan's reverie, it doesn't seem pleasant.~ + A30.1.5

++ ~Not really. I'm too tired for this, Maethor.~ + A30.1.6

 

CHAIN

IF ~~ THEN TIMaethJ A30.1.2

~Reverie is the other way elves rest. We can always sleep...Elven children need to sleep a great deal to encourage the growh of their bodies...But once we reach physical adulthood, we can sleep or not sleep as we choose. Every Edhellen--elf--can knowingly relive any part of their past or join the memories of other elves or even, if one is particularly fortunate and one's deity wishes to communicate, one can commune with the divine. It's actually more restful for the mind.~

END

+ ~Global("TIMaethPCnotelf","LOCALS",0)~ + ~But I'm not an elf. I'm a <PRO_RACE>. ~ DO ~SetGlobal("TIMaethPCnotelf","LOCALS",1)~ + A30.1.3

+ ~Global("TIMaethPCnogods","LOCALS",0)~ + ~Um...I don't think I'd want to pester the gods, thank you.~ DO ~SetGlobal("TIMaethPCnogods","LOCALS",1)~ + A30.1.4

+ ~Global("TIMaethorMind","LOCALS",0)~ + ~Could I see your memories, Maethor?~ DO ~SetGlobal("TIMaethorMind","LOCALS",1)~ + A30.1.5

+ ~Global("TIMaethPro","LOCALS",0)~ + ~Have you ever done this before?~ DO ~SetGlobal("TIMaethPro","LOCALS",1)~ + A30.1.6

+ ~Global("TIMaethRom","LOCALS",0)~ + ~Seems kinda romantic to me.~ DO ~SetGlobal("TIMaethRom","LOCALS",1)~ + A30.1.5R

+ ~Global("TIMaethPCunwise","LOCALS",0)~ + ~This seems unwise. Possibly dangerous.~ DO ~SetGlobal("TIMaethPCunwise","LOCALS",1)~ + A30.1.7

 

CHAIN

IF ~~ THEN TIMaethJ A30.1.2A

~Do you have any other concerns?~

END

+ ~Global("TIMaethPCnotelf","LOCALS",0)~ + ~But I'm not an elf. I'm a <PRO_RACE>.~ DO ~SetGlobal("TIMaethPCnotelf","LOCALS",1)~ + A30.1.3

+ ~Global("TIMaethPCnogods","LOCALS",0)~ + ~Um...I don't think I'd want to pester the gods, thank you.~ DO ~SetGlobal("TIMaethPCnogods","LOCALS",1)~ + A30.1.4

+ ~Global("TIMaethorMind","LOCALS",0)~ + ~Could I see your memories, Maethor?~ DO ~SetGlobal("TIMaethorMind","LOCALS",1)~ + A30.1.5

+ ~Global("TIMaethPro","LOCALS",0)~ + ~Have you ever done this before?~ DO ~SetGlobal("TIMaethPro","LOCALS",1)~ + A30.1.6

+ ~Global("TIMaethRom","LOCALS",0)~ + ~Seems kinda romantic to me.~ DO ~SetGlobal("TIMaethRom","LOCALS",1)~ + A30.1.5R

+ ~Global("TIMaethPCunwise","LOCALS",0)~ + ~This seems unwise. Possibly dangerous.~ DO ~SetGlobal("TIMaethPCunwise","LOCALS",1)~ + A30.1.7

++ ~No, not really...~ + A30.1.8

 

CHAIN

IF ~~ THEN TIMaethJ A30.1.3

~*Maethor grins, his pointed teeth making him look a little devious.* Ah, but you have me! If I guide you, you can walk with me in the spirit. It doesn't matter if you're an elf or not.~

END

IF ~~ THEN EXTERN TIMaethJ A30.1.2A

 

CHAIN

IF ~~ THEN TIMaethJ A30.1.4

~*Maethor laughs, showing all of his sharp teeth. For a moment, his eyes flash red and he looks devious.* Oh no, <CHARNAME>. I promise you we won't pester any gods. I was referring to those times that my Lord Corellon came to me. They'll only appear if they wish to see you...~

END

IF ~~ THEN EXTERN TIMaethJ A30.1.2A

 

CHAIN

IF ~~ THEN TIMaethJ A30.1.5

~*Maethor looks at your solemnly and nods.* You could. But I'd rather you explored some place you've been before and that you'd love to see again. Someplace that you'd be willing to share with me. At least for a first time.~

END

IF ~~ THEN EXTERN TIMaethJ A30.1.2A

 

CHAIN

IF ~~ THEN TIMaethJ A30.1.6

~Actually, yes. I have. But not very often. Anyway, no one has ever been hurt by it.~

END

IF ~~ THEN EXTERN TIMaethJ A30.1.2A

 

CHAIN

IF ~~ THEN TIMaethJ A30.1.5R

~*Maethor blushes.* I'm not surprised. You most often hear of reverie shared by lovers because elves consider sharing memory to be a bit...uh...intimate.. *His cheeks flush even redder.* Not, of course, that I'm suggesting we're anything more than friends! Family members often share experiences, too.~

DO ~ IncrementGlobal("TIMaethLove","GLOBAL",1)~

END

IF ~~ THEN EXTERN TIMaethJ A30.1.2A

 

CHAIN

IF ~~ THEN TIMaethJ A30.1.7

~I won't be offended if you say 'no.' It's a bit like holding hands. You may not want to. And that's fine. I like you, <CHARNAME>. I don't want to force any experience on you.~

END

IF ~~ THEN EXTERN TIMaethJ A30.1.2A

 

CHAIN

IF ~~ THEN TIMaethJ A30.1.8

~I understand caution. If you are willing, I will guide you. We won't do anything more than look at pleasant memories. Are you willing?~

END

++ ~Alright.~ + A30.5

++ ~Sorry. No. I just can't.~ + A30.3B

 

CHAIN

IF ~~ THEN TIMaethJ A30.6

~I understand caution. But know this: I'm of mixed blood and walking in spirit has never harmed me. If you are willing, I will guide you once. We won't do anything more than look at pleasant memories.~

END

++ ~Alright.~ + A30.5

++ ~Sorry. No. I just can't.~ + A30.3B

 

CHAIN

IF ~~ THEN TIMaethJ A30.5

~*You rise with Maethor and walk out from the campsite into the darkness beyond. As your eyes quickly adjust, you see that Maethor is taking you far enough away from the camp to ensure your privacy. You feel a vague sense of butterflies in your stomach and you wonder what the little paladin has in mind.*~

==TIMaethJ~This should be good. *Maethor settles in a patch of grass and indicates for you to join him. As you sit, he takes your hands in his small ones and smiles at you. His callused palms feel a little moist.* I'm a bit nervous myself, <CHARNAME>. Now close your eyes. In the darkness before your vision, there will be a mist. I want you to imagine reaching out to touch it with your fingers.~

END

++ ~You nod, waiting for him to continue.~ + A30.5A

 

CHAIN

IF ~~ THEN TIMaethJ A30.5A

~Now see yourself reaching through. The mist coils around you, becoming grey. Walk through it. Now it's becoming white. There is a dim figure in front of you now, shrouded in the white mist. Can you see who it is?~

END

++ ~Um, give me a second...~ + A30.51

++ ~It's you.~ + A30.5B

 

CHAIN

IF ~~ THEN TIMaethJ A30.51

~Be patient. Use my voice as a guide to look through the mist. *The figure before you is small, dressed in black, and is definately female. The last of the mist fades and you recognize Maethor standing before you.*~

END

++ ~It's you.~ + A30.5B

 

CHAIN

IF ~~ THEN TIMaethJ A30.5B

~Very good. I'm showing you something in the palm of my hand. What is it? No! Don't open your eyes. Look with your inner eyes. *Maethor's hand is outstretched, his palm facing up. he is holding something. You struggle to clear the mist from her and see what he wants you to see. It is small and it glitters...*~

END

++ ~A ring! You're holding a ring!~ + A30.5C

++ ~I can't quite tell...~ + A30.51C

++ ~Some kind of gem or piece of jewelry...~ + A30.51C

 

CHAIN

IF ~~ THEN TIMaethJ A30.51C

~Don't let your mind waver. *The sparkling, glittering thing becomes more clear as you look. It is a tiny ring on a cord. It looks too small to fit on any of Maethor's fingers.*~

END

++ ~A ring! You're holding a ring!~ + A30.5C

 

CHAIN

IF ~~ THEN TIMaethJ A30.5C

~*Maethor closes his fingers over the ring, smiling at you.* You're ready. If you could show me anywhere you've been, where would we go?~

END

++ ~You consider it, wondering what place has meaning for you. Then you smile. The library. You know the carrels and the study rooms and the rows and rows of bookshelves as intimately as a lover.~ + A30.6.1

++ ~You think about the many restrictions of your childhood. The only place that you truly loved--the only place where you were allowed to run--was the Candlekeep coastline. You smile, recalling the smell of the salt water and the calling of seagulls.~ + A30.7.1

++ ~Your attraction to arms and armaments made the Candlekeep guards' practice room your second home. You think back, remembering the squeaking of the polished pine floorboards under your feet, the smell of the sawdust in the practice dummies, and the feel of your sweat beading on your forehead.~ + A30.8.1

 

CHAIN

IF ~~ THEN TIMaethJ A30.6.1

~*Maethor nods slowly, even though you have not spoken. Taking your hand, he reaches into the rapidly thinning mist and, suddenly, you stand amongst the halls of Candlekeep Library. The smell of old paper and paste, mildew and cardboard hangs heavily in the air.*~

END

++ ~You breathe deeply, drawing in the familiar scent. I'm home! I'm home!~ + A30.9

 

CHAIN

IF ~~ THEN TIMaethJ A30.7.1

~*Maethor nods slowly, even though you have not spoken. Taking your hand, he reaches into the rapidly thinning mist and, suddenly, you stand on the rocky beach of Candlekeep. You recognize the northern coastline with pleasure. You had many happy times here. The waves crash against the rocks, sending a spume of salty mist into the air.*~

END

++ ~*You breathe deeply, drawing in the familiar scent.* I'm home! I'm home!~ + A30.9

 

CHAIN

IF ~~ THEN TIMaethJ A30.8.1

~*Maethor nods slowly, even though you have not spoken. Taking your hand, he reaches into the rapidly thinning mist and, suddenly, you are in the basement practice room commonly used by the guards of Candlekeep. You can see the racks of weapons and armor along the far wall and remember the illusionary magic that brought your practice fights to life. The smell of varnish and paint are welcome reminders of your childhood happiness.*~

END

++ ~*You breathe deeply, drawing in the familiar scent.* I'm home! I'm home!~ + A30.9

 

CHAIN

IF ~~ THEN TIMaethJ A30.9

~*Maethor smiles.* Show it to me, <CHARNAME>. Show me everything you remember.~ DO ~RestParty()~ EXIT

 

 

Ok. I've used Kulyok's method, setting two blocks for the love-talks. I have the variable set when I set the timer earlier in the .baf and increment it in the first block. Then, in the second block, it should call the .dlg file (which identifies the global).

 

I think the problem may be that I have the LoveTalks grouped with the FriendTalks.  I've been modifying Branwen to do this NPC, but I'm afraid that I'll have to separate LoveTalks (romance only) from FriendTalks (friends and romance). Do you think my issue is that the first LoveTalk is with the FriendTalks?

 

I hope I've been able to make the problem make sense, Jastey... Thanks to your earlier advice, the Talks are firing properly. My issue now is the PID.  

Edited by tibicina, 27 November 2014 - 10:19 AM.

[jastey]

Your increment script block does not check for Global("TIMaethFriendActive","GLOBAL",1), so theoretically, the friendship and LT variables could be incremented although this condition is not valid (possible PID triggering later)?

 

-The night dialogue is triggered for PID because you set the trigger variable true in the script block above without triggering it before the party rests. But in the time between, the trigger is true so that is what the player gets when he force-talks your NPC.

 

For the rest dialogues, the incrementing of the trigger variables has to be in the xxxxD.baf - (and here, not in two script blocks but only one.) Solution is to remove the "Global("TIMaethLoveTalks","GLOBAL",1)" from the script block above, and take it into the xxxxD.baf directly with something like:

 

IF

    InParty(Myself)

    RealGlobalTimerExpired("TIMaethTalksTimer","GLOBAL")

    Global("TIMaethShutUp","GLOBAL",0)

    See(Player1)

    !StateCheck(Myself,CD_STATE_NOTVALID)

    !StateCheck(Player1,CD_STATE_NOTVALID)

    CombatCounter(0)

    !See([ENEMY])

    !AreaType(DUNGEON)

    Global("TIMaethLoveTalks","GLOBAL",1)  //4 - LT 1: Reverie uses dream script TIMaethD.BAF  <--This displays in PID

THEN

  RESPONSE #100

  IncrementGlobal("TIMaethLoveTalks","GLOBAL",1)

    StartDialogueNoSet(Player1)

  END

 

[tibicina]

This is what I have in TIMaethD.baf for that LoveTalk:

 

Spoiler

//(TIMaeth Talk #4) LoveTalk #1

 

IF

    InParty(Myself)

    RealGlobalTimerExpired("TIMaethTalksTimer","GLOBAL")

    Global("TIMaethShutUp","GLOBAL",0)

    Global("TIMaethLovetalks","GLOBAL",1)

    GlobalGT("TIMaethTalk","GLOBAL",5) // talk 1-3 already happened

    Global("TIMaethRomanceActive","GLOBAL",1)

    See(Player1)

    !StateCheck(Player1,CD_STATE_NOTVALID)

    !StateCheck(Myself,CD_STATE_NOTVALID)

    CombatCounter(0)

    !See([ENEMY])

    AreaType(OUTDOOR)

    TimeOfDay(NIGHT)

THEN

  RESPONSE #100

    IncrementGlobal("TIMaethLoveTalks","GLOBAL",1)

END

 

IF

    InParty(Myself)

    See(Player1)

    Global("TIMaethLovetalks","GLOBAL",2)

    Global("TIMaethRomanceActive","GLOBAL",1)

    !StateCheck(Player1,CD_STATE_NOTVALID)

    !StateCheck(Myself,CD_STATE_NOTVALID)

    CombatCounter(0)

    !See([ENEMY])

    AreaType(OUTDOOR)

    TimeOfDay(NIGHT)

THEN

  RESPONSE #100

    PlaySong(0)

    PlaySound("TIApril")

    StartDialogNoSet(Player1)

END

 

 

As you mentioned above, it is in two blocks, imitating Branwen's method.

[jastey]

I didn't check Kulyok's Branwen, but I would assume the D does not deparate in two blocks.

 

-Simply because the engine checks the xxxD.bcs only once before the rest. If you make the dialogue call two blocks, only the first one will be executed before the (first) rest. So, the variable is set but the dialogue does not trigger (it would, theoretically, before the next rest, but chances are high the player has unintentionally triggered the dialogue via PID until then).

 

For the rest dialogues, the "set the trigger variable and then make a looping script block until the dialogue is really executed" is not necessary, anyway, as the player cannot interrupt the script block in this case (as (s)he can during normal play).

 

EDIT: So, solution would be to make the dialogue triggering in the xxxD.bcs only one script block, and remove the incrementing of the variable from the overall incrementing script block.

Edited by jastey, 27 November 2014 - 09:12 PM.

[tibicina]

Makes a lot of sense. I've made the necessary changes. So now the PID doesn't call LoveTalk 1. NOW it calls a random piece from TIMaethJ:

 

Spoiler

IF ~Gender(Player1, FEMALE)~ THEN BEGIN D62.5A

SAY ~*As your words leave your lips, you regret speaking them because Maethor recoils as if physically struck. You regret speaking even more a few seconds later, after Maethor has stepped swiftly and surely towards you, stripped her gauntlets off, and smoothly slapped your face. The pain cuts off your startled shout. Maethor looks at you, scowling.* Cýrontîr is dead, <CHARNAME>. I shared his heart-knowledge when his spirit fled this world. In the end I closed his eyes. Tybalt had to tear me away from his body. If you don't have the decency not to mock me, at least be prepared for the consequences.~

++ ~*Gasp...* Right. Let's *ow* forget it happened.~ EXIT

++ ~*Gasp...* You're dismissed, Maethor. No one hits me and gets away with it. Count yourself lucky that I don't attack you!~ DO ~SetGlobal("TIMaethRomanceActive","GLOBAL",3)~ +D62.6

++ ~*Gasp...* We all have bad memories, Maethor. You need to be less sensitive.~ +D62.6A

END

 

 

Any ideas on why this got called instead of my PID scripting? The check for the player character's gender does come up as true, but I use that same check elsewhere without it showing up during force-talking...:

 

Spoiler

IF ~IsGabber(Player1)

!ActuallyInCombat()

~ THEN BEGIN TIMaethPID

SAY~Is there something you need?~ [TIM23]

+ ~RandomNum(4,1) Global("TIMaethFriendActive","GLOBAL",1) !HasItemEquiped("%tutu_var%BELT05","TIMaeth")~ + ~Hello there.~ + p1.1

+ ~RandomNum(4,2) Global("TIMaethFriendActive","GLOBAL",1) !HasItemEquiped("%tutu_var%BELT05","TIMaeth")~ + ~Hello there.~ + p1.2

+ ~RandomNum(4,3) Global("TIMaethFriendActive","GLOBAL",1) !HasItemEquiped("%tutu_var%BELT05","TIMaeth")~ + ~Hello there.~ + p1.3

+ ~RandomNum(4,4) Global("TIMaethFriendActive","GLOBAL",1) !HasItemEquiped("%tutu_var%BELT05","TIMaeth")~ + ~Hello there.~ + p1.4

+ ~RandomNum(4,1) Global("TIMaethFriendActive","GLOBAL",1) HasItemEquiped("%tutu_var%BELT05","TIMaeth")~ + ~Hello there.~ + p1.1A

+ ~RandomNum(4,2) Global("TIMaethFriendActive","GLOBAL",1) HasItemEquiped("%tutu_var%BELT05","TIMaeth")~ + ~Hello there.~ + p1.2A

+ ~RandomNum(4,3) Global("TIMaethFriendActive","GLOBAL",1) HasItemEquiped("%tutu_var%BELT05","TIMaeth")~ + ~Hello there.~ + p1.3A

+ ~RandomNum(4,4) Global("TIMaethFriendActive","GLOBAL",1) HasItemEquiped("%tutu_var%BELT05","TIMaeth")~ + ~Hello there.~ + p1.4A

 

The PID script does come last in the TIMaethJ file.

Edited by tibicina, 27 November 2014 - 09:26 PM.

[jastey]

I wrote it above but it might not have been as clear as I wanted it to: The call for a dialogue means the first true dialogue in the dlg file (read from top to bottom) will be triggered. "Gender(Player1, FEMALE)" is always true if the PC is female, so that is what the player gets if force-talking the NPC (while being female). The reason why you do not see the other instances where you use this trigger is because they are further down the dlg file (in compiled state). If you deactivate the one you will start to see the other, still instead of the PID. (It also means you won#t be able to call the other dialogues that uses this trigger via script, btw - always the first will pop up if no other trigger variable will be used.)

Every dialogue that is not PID needs an own, unique trigger variable that will be only true if the dialogue is meant to be called.
See it like a unique key for unique doors. You do not want the dialogues use the first exit door they see - you want them to use the unique doors that leads them to the one right exit - so every dialogue needs a unique clue where this would be. If that makes sense.

-I am not a real fan of using CHAIN all along, btw, as it messes with the install order (using CHAIN it is not clear that a script block in your .d will really be below another in the compiled dlg). (Also, it is considered bad style by the older modders but that shouldn't prevent you from using it. )

[jastey]

A question: Why does the dialogue state have this trigger, anyway? It is not a real dialogue beginning, if I see it correctly. You only need trigger variables at the dialogue states if you want the dialogue to start with this state, not if it's "in the middle" of a dialogue.

-One thing to the PID: If you add the ~!ActuallyInCombat()~ to the PID, this means he would "Has Nothing To Say" in case of combat - this could lead to player "bug" reports about the PID not working. You could add a one-liner for ~ActuallyInCombat()~ to prevent this - if you want to.

Edited by jastey, 28 November 2014 - 12:08 AM.

[tibicina]

Bless you for being so patient with me!! I'm a noobie scripter, so I'm struggling a bit with the words to describe the problems and understand.

 

I have the gender dialogue trigger in the middle state purely for style reasons; Maethor acts differently depending on gender. Maethor as a male punches a male player character. He wouldn't punch a female player. I *can* just edit it to a single response, but I'm trying to figure out how I can make the trigger unique so that I can keep the variable responses without, say, having two completely separate dialogues for male or female players. :-) 

 

Concerning the ~!ActuallyInCombat()~... I'll try that, although it hadn't occurred to me that someone would try force-talking while in combat... as a player, I've been more concerned in combat about not getting the stuffing knocked out of me! :-)

Edited by tibicina, 28 November 2014 - 11:14 AM.

[tibicina]

"I am not a real fan of using CHAIN all along, btw, as it messes with the install order (using CHAIN it is not clear that a script block in your .d will really be below another in the compiled dlg). (Also, it is considered bad style by the older modders but that shouldn't prevent you from using it.   )"

 

I usually don't use CHAIN... TIMaethJ is mostly traditional scripting. CHAIN appears only during dialogues that have extended descriptive sequences or have other characters talking in them--situations where the player character has no responses... 

Edited by tibicina, 28 November 2014 - 11:34 AM.

[jastey]

Oh yes, in these cases I also use CHAIN and I love it! EDIT: Although if it's only a series of dialogue lines for the NPC, it can also be done easy in a normal dialogue state. But different NPCs talking or different reactions of the same NPC, CHAIN is great.
 
I still don't see why you'd have to put the trigger (PC female / male) in the state trigger, though. What I think you mean is the following, or am I wrong?

 

IF ~Global("[VariableThatStartsDialogue]","GLOBAL",1)~ THEN greeting
SAY ~Oh, hello, there!~

IF ~Gender(Player1, FEMALE)~ THEN + female

IF ~Gender(Player1, MALE)~ THEN + male

END

 

IF ~~ THEN female    <---------------------------------- no state trigger needed here inside the dialogue

SAY ~It's great to travel with a heroine!~

IF ~~ THEN DO ~SetGlobal("[VariableThatStartsDialogue]","GLOBAL",2)~ EXIT

END

IF ~~ THEN male <---------------------------------- no state trigger needed here inside the dialogue

SAY ~It's great to travel with a hero!~

IF ~~ THEN DO ~SetGlobal("[VariableThatStartsDialogue]","GLOBAL",2)~ EXIT

END

Edited by jastey, 28 November 2014 - 12:03 PM.

[jastey]

And of course you could write my above example using CHAIN, too:

 

CHAIN

IF ~Global("[VariableThatStartsDialogue]","GLOBAL",1)~ THEN TIMaethJ greeting

~Oh, hello, there!~ DO ~SetGlobal("[VariableThatStartsDialogue]","GLOBAL",2)~

== TIMaethJ IF ~Gender(Player1, FEMALE)~ THEN ~It's great to travel with a heroine!~

== TIMaethJ IF ~Gender(Player1, MALE)~ THEN ~It's great to travel with a hero!~

EXIT

Edited by jastey, 28 November 2014 - 12:03 PM.

[tibicina]

After some tweaking, PID now working! Yay!

 

I have the trigger variable set where it is primarily because it's a long distance (29 states) from the opening of the dialogue. I did add a global checking to see whether the globalGT was equal to that talk (making it a more "unique key" as you suggested...). 

 

Your examples are really cool... I'll have to consider how to tweak my dialogue to similarly take the trigger out of the internal dialogues...

 

Spoiler

//Opening of dialogue:

 

IF ~Global("TIMaethTalks","GLOBAL",14) HasItemEquiped("%tutu_var%BELT05","TIMaeth")~ THEN BEGIN ATILT7

SAY ~*Maethor has been quiet for some time. Finally, he looks up at you.*~

IF ~~ THEN DO ~IncrementGlobal("TIMaethTalks","GLOBAL",1) RealSetGlobalTimer("TIMaethTalksTimer","GLOBAL",360)~ + A60

END

 

IF ~~ THEN BEGIN A60

SAY ~Do you believe in tainted blood, my friend?~

++ ~Yes. I believe it is difficult to be a good person if your parents were inclined to evil actions.~ + A60A

++ ~Partly. I believe one's ancestry can partly account for the tendency to evil behavior.~ + A60B

++ ~No. I believe evil action is a result of a deprived or violent upbringing.~ + A60C

++ ~No. I think evil action tends to be the result of an individual's overall environment.~ + A60D

++ ~This is definately not the time to talk.~ + A60.1

END

 

IF ~~ THEN BEGIN A60.1

SAY ~*Maethor sighs.* Perhaps later? Or have you grown tired of my interest in philosophy?~

++ ~I'm not tired of it, Maethor, I'm just busy.~ + A60.2

++ ~I prefer to mull over reality. The here and now.~ + A60.2A

END

 

IF ~~ THEN BEGIN A60.2A

SAY ~Would it change matters any if I told you that I had personal motivation for talking about this...That it's important to me to know what you think?~

++ ~I suppose. If it's that important to you.~ + A60.3

++ ~Don't take it so hard, Maethor. It's hard to be interested in discussing theoretical evil when we fight the real kind everyday.~ DO ~IncrementGlobal("TIMaethOffend","GLOBAL",1)~ + A60.3A

++ ~No.~ + A60.3B

END

 

IF ~~ THEN BEGIN A60.3

SAY ~Ok, then. What is your opinion?~

++ ~Yes. I believe it is difficult to be a good person if your parents were inclined to evil actions.~ + A60A

++ ~Partly. I believe one's ancestry can partly account for the tendency to evil behavior.~ + A60B

++ ~No. I believe evil action is a result of a deprived or violent upbringing.~ + A60C

++ ~No. I think evil action tends to be the result of an individual's overall environment.~ + A60D

++ ~This is definately not the time to talk.~ + A60.1

END

 

IF ~~ THEN BEGIN A60.2

SAY ~Very well. Later, then.~

IF ~~ THEN DO ~SetGlobal("TIMaethA7Delay","GLOBAL",1)~ EXIT

END

 

IF ~~ THEN BEGIN A60.3B

SAY ~Very well. I can keep my musing to myself.~

IF ~~ THEN DO ~SetGlobal("TIMaethRomanceActive","GLOBAL",3) SetGlobal("TIMaethFriendActive","GLOBAL",3)~ EXIT

END

 

IF ~~ THEN BEGIN A60.3A

SAY ~That's the trouble, <CHARNAME>. It isn't theoretical. It's my life. If you give me a chance, you'll understand. I'm willing to put this conversation off for awhile, but I can't let it go completely. It's too important.~

++ ~Alright, alright. You're asking if I believe in inherent evil--what you call 'tainted blood,' right?~ + A60.3

++ ~Later. I promise.~ + A60.2

++ ~Look, I probably should have spoken up before. It's not just this topic. I'm just not that interested in general. Can we get back to business now?~ DO ~ SetGlobal("TIMaethRomanceActive","GLOBAL",3) SetGlobal("TIMaethFriendActive","GLOBAL",3)~ + A60.3B

END

 

IF ~~ THEN BEGIN A60A

SAY ~But what if you never knew your parents? You yourself are an orphan raised in kindness. Could your true parents have had an effect on the morality of a child they never touched?~

++ ~Well, consider the case of a cambion--the child of a human and a demon. I have never heard of one NOT struggling against the burden of their ancestry. I would call that blood taint.~ + A61

++ ~Even I have been affected, I think. I do not believe my true parents were scholars like Gorion. I struggled against his way of life and wished to make my own way in the world.~ + A62

END

 

IF ~~ THEN BEGIN A60B

SAY ~But what if you never knew your parents? You yourself are an orphan raised in kindness. Could your true parents have had an effect on the morality of a child they never touched?~

++ ~Surely a cambion--the child of a human and a demon--must constantly struggle against the burden of their ancestry. They may still end up acting appropriately because they were raised with kindness, but it is not easy.~ +61

++ ~I do not believe I am unscathed. I doubt my parents were like Gorion. Yet he did have significant influence on me. I sometimes found myself admiring Gorion and wishing to be like him. Other times I struggled against him.~ +62

END

 

IF ~~ THEN BEGIN A60C

SAY ~I have often tried to adopt that same viewpoint as my own, for it is the one that is the most comforting to me. But it does not always ease my fears.~

IF ~~ THEN + A61

END

 

IF ~~ THEN BEGIN A60D

SAY ~Thus, the the thief that grows up in poverty can blame his personal responsibility on his neighbors? I've seen too many cases where someone committed evil acts despite the privilege of their surroundings...like an overly pampered child.~

++ ~Do you doubt that living in a cesspit might make someone less likely to seek other ways of life?~ +63CE

++ ~I see your point. Certainly you have enough examples that you could state. But why bring this philosophical discussion up now?~ +61

END

 

IF ~~ THEN BEGIN A63CE

SAY ~No, but I cannot call stealing out of necessity as evil as stealing out of malice.~

++ ~That depends on whether you believe stealing is absolutely wrong or is relatively wrong depending on motive.~ + A63AB

END

 

IF ~~ THEN BEGIN A63AB

SAY ~That's a completely different argument. One I don't know if I wish to get into. My concern is personal, since I am ultimately referring to my own situation.~

IF ~~ THEN + A61

END

 

IF ~~ THEN BEGIN A62

SAY ~Perhaps I am misunderstanding, but all children struggle against their parents to find their own path in life against the wishes of their kin.~

IF ~~ THEN + A61

END

 

IF ~~ THEN BEGIN A61

SAY ~I have mentioned before that my mother was a courtesan--hence her name, Míloneth--literally, 'affection-giver.' I have often felt that her blood in my veins might mark me somehow. I have sought the Paladin's way partly to counter my fear.~

++ ~Do you resemble your mother?~ + A61A

++ ~I was speaking more of ancestral evil bloodlines. Many women sell themselves out of necessity. That isn't evil.~ + A61B

++ ~I can't see you becoming a courtesan, Maethor.~ + A61C

+ ~Global("TIMaethRomanceActive","GLOBAL",1)~ + ~I wouldn't mind, Maethor. There's nothing wrong with that.~ + A61D

END

 

IF ~~ THEN BEGIN A61A

SAY ~*Maethor nods.* Yes, but I cannot compare with my mother. She is...was...exquisitely beautiful--beyond beautiful, perhaps. At her birth, she was named Glánfael for her shining fair hair and her bright eyes. But she was openly called 'Hanaliell' by her patrons and lovers. It was whispered that she even rivalled our Queen, Ellesime, who was the daughter of Rillifane!~

=~I grew up hearing my elders express amazement at her beauty. Yet, in the same breath, they often voiced their scorn for her actions. It is perhaps a reflection of the contradictory nature of my people that they have such tolerance for the less-than-noble behavior of those they deem beautiful. Even my beloved Lord Corellon had to change the beautiful form of his betrayer--Araushnee--to that of a foul spider--Lloth--in order to ensure her eternal exile from Arvandor.~

++ ~I don't see how you might interpret your mother's behavior that way. Unconventional, perhaps, but evil?~ + A61B

++ ~But how do your mother's problems in the community apply to you?~ + A61C

END

 

IF ~~ THEN BEGIN A61B

SAY ~Had she been less fair, her romantic and physical tastes would have inspired disgust or fury. Not least because she refused the honest courtship of those who were noble or kind. But also because she preferred liaison after liaison. I never knew anyone else who delighted so in her ability to attract men and women only to discard them when she was done with them.~

++ ~I see.~ + A61C

++ ~It doesn't matter how pretty she was... That's still disgusting.~ + A61CC

END

 

IF ~~ THEN BEGIN A61CC

SAY ~I have to agree with you on that point. Unfortunately, no one wanted my opinion.~

IF ~~ THEN + A61

END

 

IF ~~ THEN BEGIN A61C

SAY ~I loved to watch her put on her clothing at evening and delighted when she would embrace me because she smelled so sweet. As a child, I was as drawn to her as anyone else. But I am afraid of what I have learned from her or of the blood she gave me. I am ashamed of the fact that I have been strongly drawn to want intimacy from someone whom I have just met, for example. If it was the home that shaped us, I might avoid being like her by living differently. Yet if I am shaped more by my blood, I see no way to change that!~

++ ~Your love for your mother and your desire for affection are both natural, Maeth. You judge yourself too harshly.~ + A61.1D

++ ~Alas. Our parents do pass on traits both well and ill. I can see that you grieve the sins of your mother but I also see that you have the strength to redeem or defy your blood. That is all any of us can do.~ + A62.1

++ ~Please stop whining over this. It's unbecoming for a paladin.~ + A62.2

+ ~Global("TIMaethRomanceActive","GLOBAL",1)~ + ~You haven't been overly affectionate with me.~ + A63AF

END

 

IF ~~ THEN BEGIN A61.1D

SAY ~You don't know my history, <CHARNAME>. I do not judge myself harshly enough! Too many times I've wished I had bitten my tongue rather than spoken or had myself tied rather than act. Only my devotion to Corellon has made me persevere as his servant.~

++ ~Good. That means your faith has served you well. Your next task is to remember that you're a different person than your mother. She's gone--she can't change. But you can. Your future is still an open book.~ + A63.1OB

++ ~Since I doubt you've ever been a courtesan, I don't see the conflict.~ + A62CO

+ ~Global("TIMaethRomanceActive","GLOBAL",1)~ + ~Hells, Maethor, you sound like a virgin who has had her bottom pinched once too often by the houseboy or the greengrocer! I don't believe for one moment that you've allowed a lot of men or women to touch you. All of your angst surely would put off anyone who might consider it.~ + A62.3

END

 

IF ~~ THEN BEGIN A61D //Romance active response

SAY ~What do you mean?  You wouldn't mind me being a courtesan?~

++ ~I mean there's nothing wrong with being a courtesan. What's wrong with providing affection for those who want or even need it?~ + A62

++ ~I mean I wouldn't mind if you were a courtesan. I like the idea that you could be more affectionate with me.~ + A63AF

END

 

IF ~~ THEN BEGIN A62CO

SAY ~I find it offensive to sell intimacy. It would turn what should be the gift of one's body and spirit into a commercial service.~

++ ~You don't need to get defensive. I agree with you. But I do think you should clearly separate your mother's behavior from your own. She can no longer choose to behave differently. But you are completely in charge of your future.~ + A63.1OB

++ ~So you would be less offended if everything else was the same, but no money changed hands? Is it the compensation that makes it wrong?~ + A62A

++ ~Is this merely a way of excusing the fact that you're prudish about intimacy? Some people might not think of it as such a special gift.~ + A62B

++ ~You sound envious. How's your love life been going, lately? Not as good as your mother's?~ + A64

END

 

IF ~~ THEN BEGIN A63.1OB

SAY ~I wish I could accept that... Maybe someday. *Maethor reaches over and takes your hand, giving it a quick squeeze.* But you've been a patient listener. Thank you, <CHARNAME>. It's nice to know you have faith in me.~

END

 

IF ~~ THEN BEGIN A62.3 //Romanced response

SAY ~*Maethor glares at you.* Don't fool yourself! I've had... and have... my admirers, <CHARNAME>. Probably more than you have had!~

++ ~Name one. *You gesture to the other party members.* Any of THEM, perhaps?~ + A62.4

++ ~*Laugh aloud.* Prove it. Kiss me!~ + A63AF

END

 

IF ~~ THEN BEGIN A62.4

SAY ~I will not! We were talking about my mother... not our companions.~

++ ~How about talking about your mother AND our companions. I can name one or two of them she would have liked... Hells! Might even have known!~ + A64

++ ~*Laugh aloud.* At some point, Maethor, you're just going to have to take a deep breath and remind yourself that not everyone believes the way you do about rutting. The birds in the trees and the animals of the wood jump on one another more than any of us 'higher' creatures and they seem an awful lot happier, too.~ + A62B

END

 

IF ~~ THEN BEGIN A63AF //Romanced response

SAY ~*Maethor looks at you in silence, measuring your words.* Then...you're serious when you say you might actually wish for my affection, <CHARNAME> ?~

++ ~Nah, not really. But I was hoping it might lighten the mood.~ DO ~SetGlobal("TIMaethRomanceActive","GLOBAL",3)~ + A63A

++ ~I'd be open to it.~ + A63BR

++ ~I am.~ + A63BR

END

 

IF ~~ THEN BEGIN A62A

SAY ~I don't think so. I didn't much like that my mother had a string of favorites, either. The last one, Cýrontîr, was viciously murdered for no other reason than he was with my mother on the road to Amn when we were attacked. Like many of her other favorites, he was captivated by the fact that one of the most beautiful of women was paying attention to him. But unlike them, Cýr was saddled with my care and couldn't accompany her to the festivities she would attend. I felt bad that he had to look after me when she would put on her travel cloak and leave for the night.~

++ ~You shouldn't have felt bad. You were just a child. And probably a sweet one, at that~ + A63B

++ ~In a house with two women, I'm sure he was well compensated for his trouble...in one way or another.~ + A62.5

++ ~You have a point. Your constant angst gets on my nerves, too.~ + A62.2

+ ~Global("TIMaethRomanceActive","LOCALS",1)~ + ~I understand how he felt. Of course, he WAS getting affection in return, unlike me...~ + A63AF

END

 

IF ~Global("TIMaethTalks","GLOBAL",15) Gender(Player1, MALE)~ THEN BEGIN A62.5  // <-------Here's the dialogue.

SAY ~*As your words leave your lips, you regret speaking them because Maethor recoils as if physically struck. You regret speaking even more a few seconds later, after Maethor has stepped swiftly and surely towards you, stripped his gauntlets off, and executes a beautiful left hook to your jaw. The pain cuts off your startled shout. Maethor looks down at you, bent double with pain.* Cýrontîr is dead, <CHARNAME>. I shared his heart-knowledge when his spirit fled this world. In the end I closed his eyes. Tybalt had to tear me away from his body. If you don't have the decency not to mock me, at least be prepared for the consequences.~

++ ~*Gasp...* Right. Let's *gasp* forget it happened.~ EXIT

++ ~*Gasp...* You're dismissed, Maethor. No one hits me and gets away with it. Count yourself lucky that I don't attack you!~ DO ~SetGlobal("TIMaethRomanceActive","GLOBAL",3)~ + A62.6

++ ~*Gasp...* We all have bad memories, Maethor. You need to be less sensitive.~ + A62.6A

END

 

IF ~Global("TIMaethTalks","GLOBAL",15) Gender(Player1, FEMALE)~ THEN BEGIN A62.5A

SAY ~*As your words leave your lips, you regret speaking them because Maethor recoils as if physically struck. You regret speaking even more a few seconds later, after Maethor has stepped swiftly and surely towards you, stripped his gauntlets off, and smoothly slapped your face. The pain cuts off your startled shout. Maethor looks at you, scowling.* Cýrontîr is dead, <CHARNAME>. I shared his heart-knowledge when his spirit fled this world. In the end I closed his eyes. Tybalt had to tear me away from his body. If you don't have the decency not to mock me, at least be prepared for the consequences.~

++ ~*Gasp...* Right. Let's *ow* forget it happened.~ EXIT

++ ~*Gasp...* You're dismissed, Maethor. No one hits me and gets away with it. Count yourself lucky that I don't attack you!~ + A62.6

++ ~*Gasp...* We all have bad memories, Maethor. You need to be less sensitive.~ + A62.6A

END

 

IF ~~ THEN BEGIN A62.6

SAY ~I'm sorry about that. Really I am. But your crudeness pushed me beyond my limit. If you ever come to your senses and realize that I was right... That you did go too far... Then come find me back in Beregost. Galu, <CHARNAME>.~

IF ~~ THEN DO ~SetGlobal("TIMaethRomanceActive","GLOBAL",3) SetGlobal("TIMaethJoined","GLOBAL",0) EscapeAreaMove("AR6747",450,300,1)~ EXIT

END

 

IF ~~ THEN BEGIN A62.6A

SAY ~*Maethor stops, grimacing.* I'm sorry about that. Really I am. Maybe I am too sensitive. Cýrontîr was a big part of my life. I sometimes get angry about what happened to him. So please don't mock my feelings.~

IF ~~ THEN DO ~IncrementGlobal("TIMaethOffend","GLOBAL",1)~ EXIT

END

 

IF ~~ THEN BEGIN A62B

SAY ~*Blushes* You've got me there. I suppose it does bother me in particular that some people might not think it's as much of a gift as I do.~

+ ~Global("TIMaethRomanceActive","GLOBAL",1)~ + ~Well, that's some people feel. But don't confuse their opinions with my personal one. Your affection would be a gift.~ + A63BR

++ ~Well, that's some people feel. But not everyone. When you meet the right person, they'll regard your affection as a gift.~ + A63B

++ ~Well, that's how life works. Even your most cherished opinions are still subject to others' criticism.~ + A62.1

END

 

IF ~~ THEN BEGIN A64

SAY ~Arggghhhhh!!! By Corellon! My mother was a profoundly unhappy woman seeking something she could not find. I may not have the most fulfilling romantic life, but I do not have her regrets, either! End Of Discussion!!~

++~Alright, alright. Don't get so defensive.~ + A64A

+ ~Global("TIMaethRomanceActive","GLOBAL",1)~ + ~Thus spake the virgin. You *need* to have your bottom pinched...~ + A63.1

END

 

IF ~~ THEN BEGIN A64A

SAY ~*Maethor stops, grimacing.* I'm sorry about that. Really I am. Maybe I am too sensitive. I'll think over what we've said... Thanks for listening.~

END

 

IF ~~ THEN BEGIN A62.1

SAY ~*Maethor sighs.* Your words do have the ring of truth. I will ponder this matter in silence. Thank you for listening, <CHARNAME>.~

END

 

IF ~~ THEN BEGIN A62.2

SAY ~You sound like Tyb. 'Straighten up! Stop your whining!' *He mimics, sourly.* But your words do have the ring of truth. I will ponder this matter in silence. Thank you for listening, <CHARNAME>.~

IF ~~ THEN DO ~IncrementGlobal("TIMaethOffend","GLOBAL",1)~ EXIT

END

 

IF ~~ THEN BEGIN A63A

SAY ~*Maethor shakes his head, chuckling as he turns away* Indeed. I have been too grim.~

IF ~~ THEN EXIT

END

 

IF ~~ THEN BEGIN A63.1

SAY ~Try it and see how quickly you lose some fingers! And I'm NOT a virgin! *Maethor tries to glare, but then starts laughing at herself.*  You're awful! You know that? How do I ever manage to take myself so seriously with you around?~

++ ~Does that mean I get a kiss?~ DO ~IncrementGlobal("TIMaethLove","GLOBAL",1)~ + A63BR

++ ~You shouldn't. You'll live a lot longer and be a lot happier if you don't.~ + A63B

END

 

IF ~~ THEN BEGIN A63B

SAY ~*Maethor reaches over and takes your hand, giving it a quick squeeze.* You've been a patient listener. Thank you, <CHARNAME>.~

IF ~~ THEN EXIT

END

 

IF ~~ THEN BEGIN A63BR // Romanced response

SAY ~*Maethor stops for a moment, gazing at you solemnly with his dark eyes, then, swiftly, leans over to give you a kiss on the lips. When he pulls away, you see that he is blushing furiously.* You've been a patient listener. Thank you, <CHARNAME>. As to gaining my affection? Perhaps you'd best be sure you want it before you go further.~

IF ~~ THEN EXIT

END

 

END

 

There's an amusing sidenote to this, though... The dialogue I quote above is one of two. One is scripted for a female Maethor and one for a male Maethor (Maethor starts off female, but using the belt of gender on her makes her use alternative friend and love talks.)

Edited by tibicina, 28 November 2014 - 05:46 PM.

[jastey]

If the dialogue state is specified, it doesn't matter where in the .d file it is. State triggers are only for triggering the dialogue state via a script or PID. They are completely ignored insde a dialogue path, and only lead to errors as you have encountered.

 

And from your code, I have the feeling I have to repeat myself: If you want the dialogue to go two different paths depending on your NPC's gender (EDIT: or, in this case, the PC's), the state trigger is the wrong place to put it - the separation has to be in the transaction of your reply option. Currently, in your dialogue, the state "A62.5A" is not called anywhere. I do think that you expect it to being called after the reply option

 

"++ ~In a house with two women, I'm sure he was well compensated for his trouble...in one way or another.~ + A62.5"

 

if the PC is female? Or is the dialogue state A62.5A called from somewhere you didn't post above?

 

If it is as I think it is, what you have to do is the following.

 

This:

Spoiler

IF ~~ THEN BEGIN A62A
SAY ~I don't think so. I didn't much like that my mother had a string of favorites, either. The last one, Cýrontîr, was viciously murdered for no other reason than he was with my mother on the road to Amn when we were attacked. Like many of her other favorites, he was captivated by the fact that one of the most beautiful of women was paying attention to him. But unlike them, Cýr was saddled with my care and couldn't accompany her to the festivities she would attend. I felt bad that he had to look after me when she would put on her travel cloak and leave for the night.~
++ ~You shouldn't have felt bad. You were just a child. And probably a sweet one, at that~ + A63B
++ ~In a house with two women, I'm sure he was well compensated for his trouble...in one way or another.~ + A62.5 <------- here the following dialogue state is called
++ ~You have a point. Your constant angst gets on my nerves, too.~ + A62.2
+ ~Global("TIMaethRomanceActive","LOCALS",1)~ + ~I understand how he felt. Of course, he WAS getting affection in return, unlike me...~ + A63AF
END
 
IF ~Global("TIMaethTalks","GLOBAL",15) Gender(Player1, MALE)~ THEN BEGIN A62.5  // <-------state trigger - doesn't influence the dialogue path
SAY ~*As your words leave your lips, you regret speaking them because Maethor recoils as if physically struck. You regret speaking even more a few seconds later, after Maethor has stepped swiftly and surely towards you, stripped his gauntlets off, and executes a beautiful left hook to your jaw. The pain cuts off your startled shout. Maethor looks down at you, bent double with pain.* Cýrontîr is dead, <CHARNAME>. I shared his heart-knowledge when his spirit fled this world. In the end I closed his eyes. Tybalt had to tear me away from his body. If you don't have the decency not to mock me, at least be prepared for the consequences.~
++ ~*Gasp...* Right. Let's *gasp* forget it happened.~ EXIT
++ ~*Gasp...* You're dismissed, Maethor. No one hits me and gets away with it. Count yourself lucky that I don't attack you!~ DO ~SetGlobal("TIMaethRomanceActive","GLOBAL",3)~ + A62.6
++ ~*Gasp...* We all have bad memories, Maethor. You need to be less sensitive.~ + A62.6A
END
 
IF ~Global("TIMaethTalks","GLOBAL",15) Gender(Player1, FEMALE)~ THEN BEGIN A62.5A
SAY ~*As your words leave your lips, you regret speaking them because Maethor recoils as if physically struck. You regret speaking even more a few seconds later, after Maethor has stepped swiftly and surely towards you, stripped his gauntlets off, and smoothly slapped your face. The pain cuts off your startled shout. Maethor looks at you, scowling.* Cýrontîr is dead, <CHARNAME>. I shared his heart-knowledge when his spirit fled this world. In the end I closed his eyes. Tybalt had to tear me away from his body. If you don't have the decency not to mock me, at least be prepared for the consequences.~
++ ~*Gasp...* Right. Let's *ow* forget it happened.~ EXIT
++ ~*Gasp...* You're dismissed, Maethor. No one hits me and gets away with it. Count yourself lucky that I don't attack you!~ + A62.6
++ ~*Gasp...* We all have bad memories, Maethor. You need to be less sensitive.~ + A62.6A
END

 

 

would have to be this:

Spoiler

IF ~~ THEN BEGIN A62A
SAY ~I don't think so. I didn't much like that my mother had a string of favorites, either. The last one, Cýrontîr, was viciously murdered for no other reason than he was with my mother on the road to Amn when we were attacked. Like many of her other favorites, he was captivated by the fact that one of the most beautiful of women was paying attention to him. But unlike them, Cýr was saddled with my care and couldn't accompany her to the festivities she would attend. I felt bad that he had to look after me when she would put on her travel cloak and leave for the night.~
++ ~You shouldn't have felt bad. You were just a child. And probably a sweet one, at that~ + A63B
+ ~Gender(Player1, MALE)~ + ~In a house with two women, I'm sure he was well compensated for his trouble...in one way or another.~ + A62.5

+ ~Gender(Player1, FEMALE)~ + ~In a house with two women, I'm sure he was well compensated for his trouble...in one way or another.~ + A62.5A
++ ~You have a point. Your constant angst gets on my nerves, too.~ + A62.2
+ ~Global("TIMaethRomanceActive","LOCALS",1)~ + ~I understand how he felt. Of course, he WAS getting affection in return, unlike me...~ + A63AF
END
 
IF ~ ~ THEN BEGIN A62.5  // <-------no trigger here if you don't want the dialogue to start here!
SAY ~*As your words leave your lips, you regret speaking them because Maethor recoils as if physically struck. You regret speaking even more a few seconds later, after Maethor has stepped swiftly and surely towards you, stripped his gauntlets off, and executes a beautiful left hook to your jaw. The pain cuts off your startled shout. Maethor looks down at you, bent double with pain.* Cýrontîr is dead, <CHARNAME>. I shared his heart-knowledge when his spirit fled this world. In the end I closed his eyes. Tybalt had to tear me away from his body. If you don't have the decency not to mock me, at least be prepared for the consequences.~
++ ~*Gasp...* Right. Let's *gasp* forget it happened.~ EXIT
++ ~*Gasp...* You're dismissed, Maethor. No one hits me and gets away with it. Count yourself lucky that I don't attack you!~ DO ~SetGlobal("TIMaethRomanceActive","GLOBAL",3)~ + A62.6
++ ~*Gasp...* We all have bad memories, Maethor. You need to be less sensitive.~ + A62.6A
END
 
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN A62.5A // <-------no trigger here if you don't want the dialogue to start here!
SAY ~*As your words leave your lips, you regret speaking them because Maethor recoils as if physically struck. You regret speaking even more a few seconds later, after Maethor has stepped swiftly and surely towards you, stripped his gauntlets off, and smoothly slapped your face. The pain cuts off your startled shout. Maethor looks at you, scowling.* Cýrontîr is dead, <CHARNAME>. I shared his heart-knowledge when his spirit fled this world. In the end I closed his eyes. Tybalt had to tear me away from his body. If you don't have the decency not to mock me, at least be prepared for the consequences.~
++ ~*Gasp...* Right. Let's *ow* forget it happened.~ EXIT
++ ~*Gasp...* You're dismissed, Maethor. No one hits me and gets away with it. Count yourself lucky that I don't attack you!~ + A62.6
++ ~*Gasp...* We all have bad memories, Maethor. You need to be less sensitive.~ + A62.6A
END

 

One comment to this: I am not sure an evil aligned (CN aligned etc.) PC would actually regret his / her words - in general, it is risky to tell the player what his/her PC is feeling, because players tend to have an own opinion on that. General standard for mods that are considered good is to describe what the NPC is doing (recoiling as if physically struck, then hitting the PC - or at least trying to) and leave the reactions and feelings to the player by giving different choices. This includes giving different choices at every instance, also (the common would be "friendly reply", "indifferent", and "unfriendly reply")

 

 

Another syntax correction:

IF ~~ THEN BEGIN A63.1OB

SAY ~I wish I could accept that... Maybe someday. *Maethor reaches over and takes your hand, giving it a quick squeeze.* But you've been a patient listener. Thank you, <CHARNAME>. It's nice to know you have faith in me.~

IF ~~ THEN EXIT <---- needs to be put here.

END

 

I can only advise to make a running install as soon as possible and debug your dialogues one after the other. Firstly it is really cool to see your own content in the game, and secondly you won't be faced with 50+ syntax errors on your first test install (I am talking out of experience)..

Edited by jastey, 29 November 2014 - 12:02 AM.

[tibicina]

Maethor, fortunately, is scripted to only romance good-aligned npcs, so I don't have to worry about what evil-aligned player characters might think. She's a paladin, so all she would be doing in an evil-aligned party is front-line melee fighting... But I  understand the point. I'll try to cut back on describing the player's emotions.  My background as a writer actually makes this a little harder... :-)

 

I'm really sorry that you're having to repeat yourself. I'm not trying to be resistant. It takes me awhile to understand exactly what you're getting at. But I am slowly making the needed corrections. I'll move the triggers as you recommend.

 

"I can only advise to make a running install as soon as possible and debug your dialogues one after the other. Firstly it is really cool to see your own content in the game, and secondly you won't be faced with 50+ syntax errors on your first test install (I am talking out of experience).."

 

My first test install had dozens...literally dozens...of syntax and parsing errors. I've been doing running tests for a couple of weeks now to correct various problems. 

[jastey]

Sorry if I sounded patronizing. I wish you success with your mod! The snippets of the love talks look very intriguing (but I guess the romance is for elven-PCs, only?)