Your opinion of Queen Ellesime
#21
Posted 09 December 2003 - 01:28 PM
She is simply perfect - the way *I* imagine her at least.
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#22
Posted 09 December 2003 - 01:45 PM
As regards the pic, the character is very good but the background of masonry is terrible. Absolutely got to be a Faerie woodland rather than what looks like a monk's cell.
#23 -Guest-
Posted 09 December 2003 - 02:04 PM
#24 -Guest-
Posted 09 December 2003 - 02:20 PM
Actually, I think there are certain arrangements that prevent him from walking Suldanessellar and area unmolested - thus the nickname "Exile" and a complicated scheme of double blow of drow forces, shutting off the elven army from the city and the illusionary monsters attack.
Besides, as per Dorotea there is mythal in Suldanesselar, which is one of the strongest magical protections available in FR.
Plus, whatever eyes and ears were sent after Irenicus in the past they may have lost him after the civil war in Tethyr broke out and the elves again had to fight for their survival...
#25
Posted 09 December 2003 - 03:34 PM
I mean, Ellesime's the queen of Suldanesselar. One of her subjects has demonstrated both the capacity and intention of destroying the realm purely for self-aggrandizement. Her punishment consisted in giving him another excellent reason to hold a grudge without in any way diminishing his capacity for revenge other than by putting a time limit on it. She then turns him loose in the world and, apparently, goes on as if nothing had happened. At least, there seem to have no arrangements either to keep track of Irenicus or to prepare defenses in case he decided to take the low road of vengeance. Unless the elves' world view requires them always to act with romantic and chivalrous folly toward one another, this isn't a woman vanquished by Fate but by Stupidity.
I think you are right here. Not to invest in some heavy-duty Joneleth-detecting spells does seem very stupid. Bordering on suicidal.
Of course, for all we know, elves very well might do just that -- to no avail. When a wizard of Irenicus' caliber wants to stay hidden, he stays hidden.
#26 -Andy-
Posted 11 December 2003 - 06:33 AM
#27 -Guest-
Posted 11 December 2003 - 06:42 AM
Ellesime: "You are free to make your own choices, and I know that you will do the right thing. I cannot help you more than that, but please, my love, quell your pride and come back for forgiveness and mercy... I will embrace you when you shall return..."
Irenicus (aloud): "I am hurt...I need to heal...and I have so little time, as you, my love condemned me to mortality...We will meet later."
Irenicus (under his breath): "When I shall return it will all change. You will love me, yes, but you will love me kneeling and that whole pathetic city of yours you value so much will kneel alongside you! The whole world will!"
#28
Posted 11 December 2003 - 07:43 AM
Oh yes, this is a very nice potential Ellesime! She looks beautiful, and regal, as I think Ellesime should. The official portrait just looked weird to me.Speaking of which - I think I found a 'perfect' portrait for Ellesime. Which is actually a portrait of Galadriel, but the one I never saw before. Too bad the light it so bright that I won't be able to edit it for use with a small portrait.
She is simply perfect - the way *I* imagine her at least.
#29 -Ashara-
Posted 11 December 2003 - 04:24 PM
#30 -Shian-
Posted 11 December 2003 - 04:48 PM
I like the pic you found Dorotea. Definitely more fitting than that pic in the game.
#31
Posted 11 December 2003 - 06:01 PM
http://www.dracoblu.com/gestin.html
I will definitely try to do my best with the portrait - the problem is not just the colors - the size of 38x60 pixels does not leave much room and the image looks completely washed out and blurred... But I shall se what I can do. I am definitely not using the horrible feathered image in this mod.
Freedom cannot be equated with goodness, virtue, or perfection. Freedom has its own unique self-contained nature; freedom is freedom ? not universal goodness. Any confusion or deliberate equalization of freedom with goodness and excellence is in itself negation of freedom, and acceptance of the path of restraint and enforcement.
Nikolai Berdyaev - Christian Existentialist, Philosopher of Freedom.
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#32 -Ashara-
Posted 11 December 2003 - 06:46 PM
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#33
Posted 11 December 2003 - 08:09 PM
Oh yes, I agree that the game pic looks awful. But the character portrayal always gave me the impression that she's supposed to be beautiful.Beautiful? Ellesime? I've always thought her pic horrible and that crown just plain gaudy. I usually go 'Blech!' when I see her pic in-game. Everyone's diff tho.
I like the pic you found Dorotea. Definitely more fitting than that pic in the game.
#34 -jcompton-
Posted 11 December 2003 - 09:31 PM
#35 -Ashara-
Posted 12 December 2003 - 06:23 AM
#36
Posted 13 December 2003 - 10:57 AM
Freedom cannot be equated with goodness, virtue, or perfection. Freedom has its own unique self-contained nature; freedom is freedom ? not universal goodness. Any confusion or deliberate equalization of freedom with goodness and excellence is in itself negation of freedom, and acceptance of the path of restraint and enforcement.
Nikolai Berdyaev - Christian Existentialist, Philosopher of Freedom.
The Longer Road mod
Redemption mod
Bitter Grey Ashes
#37 -Ashara-
Posted 13 December 2003 - 11:42 AM
#38
Posted 13 December 2003 - 01:02 PM
The only curiosity I found is that Legolas was always a darkhead in the calendars....
The reason for this is only Noldorin elves of House Finarphir (Galadriels House) are supposed to have golden hair....All Sindarin elves were supposed to have dark hair...
Yes, I am a sad, sad individual with far to much time on my hands...
On topic....
I think the new piccie is much better than Ellesimes original! She looks much more ethereal and serene.
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#39 -Ashara-
Posted 13 December 2003 - 01:20 PM
Yes, you are right, I forgot about it. You meant Finarfin, right?....Ummm, hi, sorry to be totally off topic, but...
The only curiosity I found is that Legolas was always a darkhead in the calendars....
The reason for this is only Noldorin elves of House Finarphir (Galadriels House) are supposed to have golden hair....All Sindarin elves were supposed to have dark hair...
Yes, I am a sad, sad individual with far to much time on my hands...
On topic....
I think the new piccie is much better than Ellesimes original! She looks much more ethereal and serene.
I always thought Vanyar were blond, must be 'cause they are Fair Elves...thought it does not matter, lol. Is Legolas Sindar? I dunno why, I thought he was Laiquendi. Must be some wrong association
#40
Posted 13 December 2003 - 01:33 PM
The Timely Resurrection of Fade!
Mistress Elysia's fantasy artwork.
Where Darkness Resides: A Neverwinter Nights: Hordes of the Underdark fanfic
I want to live, I want to experience the universe and I want to eat pie.
"Oh, little ice cream friends! Thog delays boredom-driven rampage only for you!"