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[kovarex]

Hello, I have played mega modded bg few times in the past years (2 years back was the last attempt), and although I usually didn't encounter any critical bugs, I had this stutter problems.

It was fluent at the start, but it got more and more stuttered later on. I tried many things to solve it, read many topics about it, I even manually read and prunned the main script files to make it slow down the game less, but it was always less and less responsive, until it made it not enjoyable anymore.

 

Heck, I even mailed the company owning the source code, that I would like to optimise it for the mods usage, they never answered ofcourse, but it was worth the try

 

So the question is.

Was there any overall progress towards solving this issue in the past 2 years?

Are there mods that I should definitelly avoid regards this matter? Or list of larger mod that I could safely use?

I would like to use the BWP for the installation.

 

Thanks for any advice in advance.

Edited by kovarex, 15 March 2014 - 12:18 AM.

[The Imp]

Well, there has not much been progress so to speak in the BG2's side*, but depending on how much you got into the 25 advices that were there already.. they say the EE's should run a little better ... but it depends on the machine running the game and the cross compatibility of all the things been ran, and running less is better than running more in most cases. But without trying, you'll never get anywhere.

So it's likely that you saw the diminishing returns because the problem was not resolvable by your methods.

 

*well, you can make any games able to run with larger ram memory access with programs like the Explorer Suite.

Edited by The Imp, 15 March 2014 - 12:34 AM.

[kovarex]

So my results so far:

 

Installed the game for the first time (Standard on BWS with just small changes), and the stutter was there very quickly (On the 4th map it started).

Went back and reinstalled. I went through all the mods and read what they do, I omitted almost all the NPC mods and item talking mods and mods that I considered are not relevant.

 

Went back to game and it was much more smooth then.

 

Played more, but at the time I got to the Gnoll fortress in BG1 it started to be slow again.

I tried to put all items on the ground and kick all from party -> was faster.

I went to Baldur.BCS (Edited using nearinfinity) and inspected all the blocks that had HasItem or PartyHasItem.

 

All those that I considered to be not important I removed, for others I made sure they are used as last in multi-condition blocks.

 

Tadaaa, the game is silky smooth again and I can continue in my quest

[The Imp]

...but at the time I got to the Gnoll fortress in BG...

That's actually in BGT, not in BG1, and that place is like the worst possible Ambient sound lag hive you can think of... so I ask, have you done exactly what the first point of the my FAQ tells you to do... open up the baldur.ini with Notepad and check !

[kovarex]

I'm quite sure that the lag has nothing to do with ambient lag as the lag disappeared in my tests when I a)Put all items away or b)Cleared Baldur.bcs

[Creepin]

Well talks and promises of stutter free TobEx never worked for me, sadly, but I've found a way to make my BW playable: after each install I'm cutting out all excessive item (and kit) checks from all ever-running scripts (baldur, baldur25, dplayer, dplayer2 & dplayer3), this works like a charm for me, 100% stutter- and lag-free game!

 

Be careful at cutting out though: while waving goodbye to almost all custom NPC-related item checks is a must, don't erase things if you aren't sure where they came from and why.

 

However, even if you'll only remove all script blocks:

- handling repercussions of taking items belonged to certain NPCs from them;

- handling gradual drow item disintegration;

- handling cursed (returning) items from Shadows over Soubar (or was these from some other of CBisson's large mods);

- handling checks for kits you'll never going to use anyway and

- handling checks for talking items (other than Lilarcor, don't remove Lilarcor! )

you will do pretty good for your game smoothness.

Edited by Creepin, 24 March 2014 - 08:40 PM.

[The Imp]

Can you please explain how to use 'nearinfinity'.  I tried downloading Java, but for some reason, it won't work.

Which part... the FAQ has install instructions to it... just the first two parts.( up to 11.1.1)

I especially like Dingo XP fixer, where I reduce XP to 25%, plus the mods that make the game just that little bit harder.

That's a rule mod that adjust all the games resources at install time, so it can't cause lag unless the code is a mess which it's not.

I have already done a Big World Clean up - I guess I will need to re-install the mods?

Actually not, you can go and still adjust the game by hand... but you won't have backups to look though to find out where the trouble lies in...

Edited by The Imp, 03 April 2014 - 05:14 AM.

[The Imp]

  I am posting my weidu log (wish I knew how to do this as a spoiler so as to save space, so apologies here).

[spoiler]-text-[/spoiler]

I suspect it could be Bag of Holding, because there is stutter when I import a TOB character (always has a BoH) but the stutter on a clean character in BG would be in specific areas.

Hmm, did you read the part of my FAQ thats about avoiding the lag ? You don't have the w_mule mod, the area specific stutter sounds like it's the ambient sounds one, and so on...

Edited by The Imp, 04 April 2014 - 01:10 AM.

[Arjento]

This is what worked for me back in the day to fix stuttering:

 

1) Select "Throne Of Bhaal"
2) "Single Player"
3) "Import Game"
4) Load your save
5) Wait for the Autosave to kick in
6) Go back to the main menu
7) Select "Baldur's Gate" (If you are playing from BG1)
8 ) "Single Player"
9) "Load Game"
10) Then load your save you used when you Imported

 

And also be mindful of your bags:

 

17. Inventory management(no stacks that have more than about 200 items, in a bag, arrows etc.), -might also help, as in if you drop an item to the ground and or store it in a stash the stuttering might go away in a few seconds there after. And do not carry too many bags of holding and the like storage_items, or give into the your greed and use the moving bag of holding in the donkey mod(W_mule).

Edited by Arjento, 06 April 2014 - 09:13 AM.