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[Fouinto]

Maybe something in TobExTweak.ini that is disabled (and shouldn't be) ?

[ketomi]

Thanks - I think actually the setting is this one in ToBEx-core.ini

[Music]
Extended Songlist=1

Unfortunately, it looks like it is enabled.

[Quiet]

The only way that I can reproduce this error - it's manually disable "Extended Songlist" option in ToBEx-Sore.ini. When turned on again, all works fine. So for now I can not advise anything. Sorry.

[Vlan]

Does Kesley work now or has the mod still not been fixed in combination with BWS?

 

edit: also, Add high-level abilities (HLA's) to ToB priests and Add high-level abilities (HLA's) to SoA priests are incomatible with each other (SCSII AI).

Edited by Vlan, 25 October 2013 - 12:03 PM.

[Quiet]

Does Kesley work now or has the mod still not been fixed in combination with BWS?

Yes, with new WeiDU it should work correctly.

 

edit: also, Add high-level abilities (HLA's) to ToB priests and Add high-level abilities (HLA's) to SoA priests are incomatible with each other (SCSII AI).

Thanks, I'll fix.

[Quiet]

BWS is updated.

Changed:

• Selections "Total happiness", "Megamod" and "Arkenor's Adventure Picks" is recovered back
• Type of some mods

Fixed:

• SCS and other connections

Updated:

• Garrick - Tales of a Troubadour, Kitanya, PaintBG, Rolles, Spell-50, Unfinished Business, WeiDU, Yoshimo Romance
• Links to fit BWP mod-list

[kreso]

I've noticed some errors within the mod install order.

 

Right now it's :

RR

SCS

various tweaks

Wizardslayer kit revision

Refinements

aTweaks

Wizard Slayer HLAs

RR HLAs

 

 

Correct order:

 

Wizard Slayer Rebalancing without HLAs

BGT Tweaks

BG2 Tweaks

Turambar Fixes

Jarl's BGT Tweaks

Refinements

RR HLAs

WS Rebalancing HLAs

Strategems 

aTweaks

[The Imp]

I've noticed some errors within the mod install order.

Correct order:

Based on ?

[kreso]

I've noticed some errors within the mod install order.

Correct order:

Based on ?

Readme files.

aTweaks specifically states that "do not install any component of Rogue Rebalancing after aTweaks."

SCS takes Refinements into account when assigning HLAs, but needs to be installed after Refinements for this to work (doh! )

SCS takes any revised THAC0, spell memorization etc. tables into account (so therefore goes after tweak mods).

[The Imp]

Readme files.
aTweaks specifically states that "do not install any component of Rogue Rebalancing after aTweaks."
SCS takes Refinements into account when assigning HLAs, but needs to be installed after Refinements for this to work (doh! )
SCS takes any revised THAC0, spell memorization etc. tables into account (so therefore goes after tweak mods).

You do understand that the difference between the mods readme and it's wished changes is a large one... example 1) it's only after the v25 that the SCS will take the HLA's into account to what comes to the Refinements... it's also high concern to what comes to the other readme's... the mod maker tries to make his changes the most ambient(as in effect the most), but it might also discard the changes of others ... yeah for example the Thac0 table is designed to be the players best guide for most parts... not the monsters as they have no class (without the SCS) which makes the premise of the monsters design a little flaky(as in you can set their level to 1 with a single Weidu.exe function, and it might ruin the whole game, or set all to 40 and get some bad ass fights at level 1, again ruining the whole game, yes, this is very evident with the Orcs in the BGT mods for example ).
Not to mention that there are components like the "Detectable Spells" that affect AI mods, spells, etc etc and their settings are best to be installed in a particular order based on the available version of the mods(and the readme's try to reflect this but are known to fail at it... as they don't mention the particular version numbers that effect this, example 2): the reason why the SCS or the BP needs to be installed last in comparison to the other, they both install the DS, and the later version needs to be later ).

PS, this is not a comment that we should neglect your research... but that we should make sure that the biggest preference comes out of this, and that there won't be any bugs related the order change.

Edited by The Imp, 30 October 2013 - 10:50 AM.

[kreso]

Readme files.
aTweaks specifically states that "do not install any component of Rogue Rebalancing after aTweaks."
SCS takes Refinements into account when assigning HLAs, but needs to be installed after Refinements for this to work (doh! )
SCS takes any revised THAC0, spell memorization etc. tables into account (so therefore goes after tweak mods).

You do understand that the difference between the mods readme and it's wished changes is a large one... example 1) it's only after the v25 that the SCS will take the HLA's into account to what comes to the Refinements... . 

No, I'm certain that SCS included Refinements HLAs quite a few versions ago. It won't break the game, but if Refinements is before SCS there's both consisteny (same HLAs by party and enemies) and enemies will use some kit-specific HLAs (Boneguard summoning, Mavalon's Fury  etc.) Seen it happen....

Quote from SCS readme:

 

SCS is fully compatible with the "Refinements" mod, and in particular, will make use of the modified High-Level Abilities introduced by Refinements. Refinements must be installed before SCS for this to work properly. (Yes, I know the Refinements readme says "install me last"; trust me on this.)

 

I'm quite positive that changing this order will not break anything, quite the opposite.

Detectable Spells I know of, if anything's wrong SCS/BP  fix it.

And since aTweaks goes after either one of those, it's a sure bet that things will work as intended.