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[Dimensionist]

I've recently encountered a problem with the 'recommended' installation for BWS. Would this be the place to ask for help?

[The Imp]

I've recently encountered a problem with the 'recommended' installation for BWS. Would this be the place to ask for help?

Yes, but it's likely more helpful for you and anyone else that has the same like problems that you start a new topic in the mega mod help forum. Describe the problem, and add your weidu.log's content to it.

Ouh, and welcome to the forum.

Edited by The Imp, 03 January 2016 - 10:06 AM.

[Dimensionist]

I've recently encountered a problem with the 'recommended' installation for BWS. Would this be the place to ask for help?

Yes, but it's likely more helpful for you and anyone else that has the same like problems that you start a new topic in the mega mod help forum. Describe the problem, and add your weidu.log's content to it.

Ouh, and welcome to the forum.

 

Thanks.

 

The problem isn't in the installation, though - that works just fine. It happens when I start the game and start playing.

 

I'l make a separate thread for it, though, if you think that's best.

[dady977]

Hey, I'm having a problem, BWS can't download Faiths and Powers, and when I try to provide it and tell the tool to give me the link, it doesn't do anything, so, I'm stuck, I can't provide or extract the mod because I don't have it and BWS didn't download it, any help would be very appreciated.

[agb1]

Faiths and Powers is a new mod and not yet publicly available. You can contact the author (subtledoctor) to ask about joining the closed beta.

Credit where due, Grammarsalad is also authoring the mod.

Edited by agb1, 03 January 2016 - 12:42 PM.

[dady977]

Faiths and Powers is a new mod and not yet publicly available. You can contact the author (subtledoctor) to ask about joining the closed beta.

Credit where due, Grammarsalad is also authoring the mod.

Thanks for the really fast reply, I really appreciate the help.

I wonder if they'll let me use their mod? I guess I'll have to ask them.

[agb1]

Couple of quick updates:

 

* BG2EE:  Added temporary patch for Ascension (thanks White Agnus!) to work around install errors until next WeiDU release

* BG2EE:  Switched Tashia Maximized pre-selection to SOA part only until TOB dialogue transitions are fixed

[Creepin]

My custom selection installed fast, smoothly and without a single hiccup! Thanks a lot everyone involved

The only issue was with Sandrah's mod assortment, and no, it wasn't due to Jarl. I am attaching BWS output and debug in hopes someone could enlighten me on what exactly I did wrong and what to avoid next time. My only not so educated guess is that when I was *not* picking other NPC mods, I've got an ignoreable warning that said I will lose some interactions between Sandrah and said NPCs but that's ok if I skip the warning. I happily used ability to ignore it because these NPCs was so uninteresting I didn't even cared to remember their names, so I figured I could live without interaction with them. However, it looks like this decision resulted in Return to Faerun and Times of Trouble not installed, which suck.

Spoiler

The following originally selected mods could not be installed:

Mod: Horace NPC (Beta)
Component: Horace - BGII
Component: Bone Collector

Mod: Sandrah NPC
Component: Mod Interactions

Mod: Return to Faerun
Component: SandrahRTF Check for required Installation
Component: RTF Movies and Sounds
Component: Sandrah Return To Faerun Areas
Component: Sandrah Return To Faerun Area Modifications
Component: Sandrah Return To Faerun Creatures
Component: Sandrah Return To Faerun Items and Stores
Component: Sandrah Return To Faerun Compiles
Component: Sandrah RtF Cross Mod Contents

Mod: Sandrah Times of Trouble Revisited
Component: Sandrah Times of Trouble Revisited

The installation is finished.

Attached Files

•  BiG World Install Debug.zip   4.38MB   209 downloads

Edited by Creepin, 03 January 2016 - 01:31 PM.

[Roxanne]

My custom selection installed fast, smoothly and without a single hiccup! Thanks a lot everyone involved

The only issue was with Sandrah's mod assortment, and no, it wasn't due to Jarl. I am attaching BWS output and debug in hopes someone could enlighten me on what exactly I did wrong and what to avoid next time. My only not so educated guess is that when I was *not* picking other NPC mods, I've got an ignoreable warning that said I will lose some interactions between Sandrah and said NPCs but that's ok if I skip the warning. I happily used ability to ignore it because these NPCs was so uninteresting I didn't even cared to remember their names, so I figured I could live without interaction with them. However, it looks like this decision resulted in Return to Faerun and Times of Trouble not installed, which suck.

Spoiler

The following originally selected mods could not be installed:

Mod: Horace NPC (Beta)
Component: Horace - BGII
Component: Bone Collector

Mod: Sandrah NPC
Component: Mod Interactions

Mod: Return to Faerun
Component: SandrahRTF Check for required Installation
Component: RTF Movies and Sounds
Component: Sandrah Return To Faerun Areas
Component: Sandrah Return To Faerun Area Modifications
Component: Sandrah Return To Faerun Creatures
Component: Sandrah Return To Faerun Items and Stores
Component: Sandrah Return To Faerun Compiles
Component: Sandrah RtF Cross Mod Contents

Mod: Sandrah Times of Trouble Revisited
Component: Sandrah Times of Trouble Revisited

The installation is finished.

To *enlighten* you, it would be helpful to attach the setup-sandrahnpc.debug. All of RtF not installing must be more than missing a minor NPC. (probably Ascension is missing)

PS - It should not matter, with a party of six of yourself you will not be able to transit to RtF anyway.

Edited by Roxanne, 03 January 2016 - 01:41 PM.

[Creepin]

To *enlighten* you, it would be helpful to attach the setup-sandrahnpc.debug. All of RtF not installing must be more than missing a minor NPC. (probably Ascension is missing)

Done.

PS - It should not matter, with a party of six of yourself you will not be able to transit to RtF anyway.

Indeed, but I figured I ask in advance rather than when I'm ready to play with NPCs.

Attached Files

•  Setup-SandrahNPC.debug   1.83MB   402 downloads

Edited by Creepin, 03 January 2016 - 01:45 PM.

[Roxanne]

To *enlighten* you, it would be helpful to attach the setup-sandrahnpc.debug. All of RtF not installing must be more than missing a minor NPC. (probably Ascension is missing)

Done.

PS - It should not matter, with a party of six of yourself you will not be able to transit to RtF anyway.

Indeed, but I figured I ask in advance rather than when I'm ready to play with NPCs.

 

I found the issue but I have no idea how that happened - the whole component ~SandrahNPC Extensions~ (i.e.all of the BG2 contents) has not been installed. (i.e. it has not failed but it was not selected for install, by whom or why, I cannot tell)

If you used BWS did you modify something??

For that reason *Mod extensions* does not find a file to append to and fails completely (including Ascension which is required to enable RtF, which then fails as well)

 

Component 9 is missing as well (also somehow unselected) - so RtF would have failed to install for that reason as well.

Edited by Roxanne, 03 January 2016 - 02:15 PM.

[Creepin]

I found the issue but I have no idea how that happened - the whole component ~SandrahNPC Extensions~ (i.e.all of the BG2 contents) has not been installed. (i.e. it has not failed but it was not selected for install, by whom or why, I cannot tell)
If you used BWS did you modify something??
For that reason *Mod extensions* does not find a file to append to and fails completely (including Ascension which is required to enable RtF, which then fails as well)

Roxanne, thank you for fast assessment. It is perfectly clear by whom it was not selected: I handpick all components manually and since "SandrahNPC Extensions" was the only one marked red in whole Sandrah NPC mod, I turned it off just in case, previously checking that nothing is dependant on it. I will reinstall BWS tomorrow and check if enabling this component will allow RtF & ToT to be installed. If it actually will, I think that dependency is warranted in BWS in this case because as it stands now there was no single warning I won't be able to install these mods.

Edited by Creepin, 03 January 2016 - 02:18 PM.

[Roxanne]

I found the issue but I have no idea how that happened - the whole component ~SandrahNPC Extensions~ (i.e.all of the BG2 contents) has not been installed. (i.e. it has not failed but it was not selected for install, by whom or why, I cannot tell)
If you used BWS did you modify something??
For that reason *Mod extensions* does not find a file to append to and fails completely (including Ascension which is required to enable RtF, which then fails as well)

Roxanne, thank you for fast assessment. It is perfectly clear by whom it was not selected: I handpick all components manually and since "SandrahNPC Extensions" was the only one marked red in whole Sandrah NPC mod, I turned it off just in case, previously checking that nothing is dependant on it. I will reinstall BWS tomorrow and check if enabling this component will allow RtF & ToT to be installed. If it actually will, I think that dependency is warranted in BWS in this case because as it stands now there was no single warning I won't be able to install these mods.

1. It is clearly stated that Sandrah Components are not optional but just split for easier recovery. You need all for the mod to work.

2. Instead of a complete new BWS install it is worth to try something that might work (since the worldmap components are installed to enable BP-worldmap, there is a good chance it works.)

- start setup-SandrahNPC.exe manually - say A(sk) to components not yet installed - say (S)kip to components already installed - say (I)nstall when the missing components are asked. If that is successful, try RtF, there should be no issue with it.

It is worth a try, I think you have little to loose if you consider re-installing BWS as alternative anyway.

[White Agnus]

The problem with GPWSLAY.bcs is caused by the line "0 ANYONE" in EA.ids. Updating BWS to use WeiDU 238.01 beta would be the simplest solution currently but using beta WeiDU in BWS is not recommended, so it would be ideal if we could get a new stable release of WeiDU. 

 

I implemented a new component in ascension today, which should solve the issue (Component 999), will remove it, when a new stable weidu version is out...

[agb1]

Thanks White Agnus, I've updated BWS to use that component.

 

Roxanne, I'm updating BWS to require every Sandrah NPC component (no exceptions) if any Sandrah NPC component is selected.  All or nothing.  Is that correct?

 

[Roxanne]

Thanks White Agnus, I've updated BWS to use that component.

 

Roxanne, I'm updating BWS to require every Sandrah NPC component (no exceptions) if any Sandrah NPC component is selected.  All or nothing.  Is that correct?

 

I have always had this on the download page and in the readme

*For the mod, all setup options must be installed, the different parts of the installation file are just for faster recovery in an error case.
RtF requires the same large worldmap to be installed for SoA and ToB.*

 

I have considered for a long time already to make the mod just one component but since it is still beta and constantly improved it would make my own work really cumbersome and actually *creepin*'s case here is the only one so far where such an issue has happened.

The mod itself looks for the options to chose from the list of mods that have been installed in front of it, so there is really nothing to select during installation.

[agb1]

Thanks Roxanne.  Just so you know, the PDF inside the mod folder itself ("Sandrah NPC for the BGT_Readme.pdf") does not mention components or setup options, and I was relying on that version of the readme for dependencies information.  I am updating the BWS rules to require all components.

[agb1]

* Added conflict rule:  Tashia Remix #0 (ToB version) vs. Imoen Romance v5

* BGT:  Deidre and Joluv in BGT removed from purge list (mod is selectable now for BGT)

* Corrected Sandrah dependency rules

[Roxanne]

NPC Kitpack NPCKIT should be Expert for EE/EET games, it corrupts kit.ids (without the repairs done in other games by fixpack) which leads to issues in the game.

 

See http://www.shsforums...e-6#entry584659 and Imps analysis of the issue.

[The Imp]

NPC Kitpack NPCKIT should be Expert for EE/EET games...

Yeah, until Lollorian fixes it, or my angry report of it gets a new release out.