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[agb1]

DR skipped installing its Battleguard kit after EET installed its kit. Was I wrong thinking the skip of the former was caused by the latter?

[Nightfarer]

 @agb1 or Alien

 

Could you please update BWS to BiG World Text Packs German and English 15.6?

Edited by Nightfarer, 02 January 2016 - 06:46 AM.

[subtledoctor]

DR skipped installing its Battleguard kit after EET installed its kit. Was I wrong thinking the skip of the former was caused by the latter?

No you're not wrong. When DR was updated to work with IWDEE, it would not add the Battleguard kit if the IWDEE version (OHTEMPUS) existed. Instead DR just changes the kit name from "cleric of" to "Battleguard of."

By my very rough understanding of events, CamDawg coded the Battleguard kit in DR; then he worked on the IWD-in-BG2 mod; the both CamDawg and that mod joined Beamdog; and then they produced IWDEE. So the OHTEMPUS version is a later, updated version of the same kit written largely by the same guy. Therefore it should be preferred (by default, anyway). And since EETweaks installs the IWDEE kit, therefore the EETweaks version should be preferred by default over the DR version.

Edited by subtledoctor, 02 January 2016 - 07:38 AM.

[agb1]

@Nightfarer

 

BWS is already using the 15.6 versions of the BiG World Textpack (English and German).

 

https://kerzenburg.b...oadlatest&id=58

BiG World Textpack ENGLISH-15.6.7z

 

https://kerzenburg.b...oadlatest&id=57

BiG World Textpack GERMAN-15.6.7z

 

[Nightfarer]

@agb1

 

Ah ok, I wasn't aware of that   I was saying it as a reminder due to some revised patches introduced in Textpack English 15.6 (Les Exiles de Lunargent and Vendedor DLAN)

[agb1]

* EET Tweaks 26 (Priest of Tempus kit) now preferred over Divine Remix 109 (Battleguard of Tempus kit)

 

* BGT:  RPG Kit Pack #4, #5 (Wild Jester kit), #6 (Spellsword kit) and #7, #8 (Buffoon kit) marked Expert because http://www.shsforums...e-8#entry584509

Edited by agb1, 02 January 2016 - 02:05 PM.

[agb1]

Reminders are appreciated!  Hard to keep track of everything.

[zonx]

File attached, was planning to include it.

 

 

BG1EE (for once) tactical preset install, some errors.

 

[spoiler]

[ERROR: Failure("resource [AR3300N.wed] not found for 'COPY'")

Gavin NPC for Tutu, BGT, and BG:EE (Gavin NPC) was not installed due to errors.

Not enough information in the BWS install log.  Please upload setup-gavin.debug from game folder.

Attached Files

•  Setup-gavin.debug   111.42K   183 downloads

[agb1]

I checked Gavin's code.  %Beregost% is defined as AR3300 in Gavin's g3_bgee_cpmvars.tpa (no problem so far).

 

But in gavin.tp2 file I see this at lines 253-254:

 

COPY_EXISTING ~%Beregost%.wed~ override

                          ~%Beregost%N.wed~ override

 

I checked my copy of BGEE and there is no AR3300N.wed -- so it seems Gavin needs a patch for BGEE.

 

Possible solution:  add %Beregost%N.wed to the ALLOW_MISSING section at the top of gavin.tp2 (starting line 23):

 

ALLOW_MISSING // allow if BG Graphics night WEDs are not installed

AR6700N.WED

FW3300N.WED

// add %Beregost%N.wed here ... or AR3300N.wed if WeiDU does not expand variables here

ALWAYS

 

Reported in Gavin mod forum:  http://gibberlings3....showtopic=26999

Edited by agb1, 02 January 2016 - 08:38 PM.

[Lollorian]

Lollorian -- looks like kittomes\lib\tbgcom_bgee_vars.tpa is missing this variable definition (copied from g3_bgt_cpmvars.tpa):

BWPFixpack'd DO not report this because this is a consequence of another fix

 

hlolaf.cre is Olaf Rasmussen, one of the BG2 Temple District Guarded Compound crew.  IWDification checks for AR0602.BCS before trying to patch this creature.

BWPFixpack'd Just Checked for hlolaf.cre instead of adding the GAME_IS checks (it isn't a BGEE cre)

[Lollorian]

Possible solution:  add %Beregost%N.wed to the ALLOW_MISSING section at the top of gavin.tp2 (starting line 23):

BWPFixpack'd Caused because of this fix so DO NOT report...

 

Reported in Gavin mod forum:  http://gibberlings3....showtopic=26999

... well fuck

[zonx]

New bg2ee test with latest build. tactical preset.
 
tactical preset still selects tashia full version along with imoen romance mod, obviously that will have issues
 
Errors along the way:

Spoiler

ERROR: parsing [GPWSLAY.BCS.BAF]: Parsing.Parse_error
ERROR: [GPWSLAY.BCS] -> [override/GPWSLAY.BCS] Patching Failed (COPY) (Parsing.Parse_error)
ERROR: Parsing.Parse_error
Innate Spell Fixer (BP Series Party AI) was not installed due to errors.
 
ERROR: parsing [GPWSLAY.BCS.BAF]: Parsing.Parse_error
ERROR: [GPWSLAY.BCS] -> [override/GPWSLAY.BCS] Patching Failed (COPY) (Parsing.Parse_error)
ERROR: Parsing.Parse_error
Quest XP Reduction -> Reduce to 50% (Ding0's Experience Fixer) was not installed due to errors.
 
ERROR: parsing [GPWSLAY.BCS.BAF]: Parsing.Parse_error
ERROR: [GPWSLAY.BCS] -> [override/GPWSLAY.BCS] Patching Failed (COPY) (Parsing.Parse_error)
ERROR: Parsing.Parse_error
Party XP for quests distributed individually (EET (Enhanced Edition Trilogy) Tweaks) was not installed due to errors.
 
ERROR: parsing [GPWSLAY.BCS.BAF]: Parsing.Parse_error
ERROR: [GPWSLAY.BCS] -> [override/GPWSLAY.BCS] Patching Failed (COPY) (Parsing.Parse_error)
ERROR: Parsing.Parse_error
Adjust FPS and fix audio skipping in cutscenes (EET (Enhanced Edition Trilogy) Tweaks) was not installed due to errors.
 
ERROR: parsing [GPWSLAY.BCS.BAF]: Parsing.Parse_error
ERROR: [GPWSLAY.BCS] -> [override/GPWSLAY.BCS] Patching Failed (COPY) (Parsing.Parse_error)
ERROR: Parsing.Parse_error
Remove junk from global scripts (BG2:EE, EET) (EET (Enhanced Edition Trilogy) Tweaks) was not installed due to errors.
 
Mods affecting GPWSLAY.BCS:
00000: /* acted upon in an indetectable manner */~GENERALIZED_BIFFING/GENERALIZED_BIFFING.TP2~ 0 0 // Generalized Biffing: v2.2 BWP Fix
00001: /* acted upon in an indetectable manner */~GENERALIZED_BIFFING/GENERALIZED_BIFFING.TP2~ 0 0 // Generalized Biffing: v2.2 BWP Fix

Attached Files

•  WeiDU.log   45.7K   170 downloads
•  BiG World Debug.7z   120.92K   147 downloads

[Creepin]

A quick question: latest (well at least latest two days ago) BWS master gives conflict between Sandrah and Jarls Adventure pack. Since I want to have both, I ignored this waning and pressed "continue". Next window gave me some wague text with two options of "no" and "yes". Picking any of these options brings me back to the conflict resolving screen, with no way for me to ignore the conflict.

Please advise, what do I have to do to either remove the conflict from BWS data or to bypass the warning?

Edited by Creepin, 03 January 2016 - 05:06 AM.

[agb1]

Creepin, if you see a ** then it is a warning and you can right-click to ignore. Otherwise you can edit Config\BWP\Game.ini and remove the rule. However please note that conflict rule comes directly from the Sandrah NPC readme -- expect problems if you do this!

[agb1]

zonx, thanks for the report! GPWSLAY.bcs.baf comes from Ascension's tougher Gromnir component. We just updated BWS to use the newest EE version of Ascension. I will report this to the modders.

[Creepin]

Creepin, if you see a ** then it is a warning and you can right-click to ignore. Otherwise you can edit Config\BWP\Game.ini and remove the rule. However please note that conflict rule comes directly from the Sandrah NPC readme -- expect problems if you do this!

agb1, thank you for your prompt reply! Do you think in future it will be possible to have an "Ignore problem" option for Sandrah-Jarl much like it is done for NTotSC - Jarl? Would be so much more convenient.

For current release I have edited out offending incompatibility succesfully, thanks for your hint As for the consequences - I've studied carefully what is stated as the reason for incompatibility under Sandrah's topic, and figured it's much less inconvenient for my planned gameplay than lack of either Sandrah's modifications to RoT or Jarl's Adventure Pack.

Edited by Creepin, 03 January 2016 - 05:54 AM.

[agb1]

Creepin, could you post your analysis and conclusions about this conflict in Sandrah forum? If Roxanne agrees then I will change the rule to a conflict warning. Otherwise it remains outside of the supported usage of Sandrah so I will leave the rule in place.

[Creepin]

agb1, this is not much of an analysis actually, and also I had in mind very specific gameplay, so I don't think this would be of any use for Roxanne, but I'll write it down here in case it could be of any use to you

Spoiler

First thing first, logical part. It is claimed in Sandrah's readme that Jarl's is incompatible because it:
- replaces creatures
- spawn own creatures over vanilla ones
- renames creatures.

To cover both replacing and double spawning: from what I understand, Jarl's indeed intended to replace creatures with its own by making changes to vanilla creatures to disappear upon spawn, and then by spawning own creatures in the freed space, which is obviously bad move. However, in BWS environment some creature fixer installed afterwards (Miloch's, if memory serves) fixes this disappearing, making vanilla creatures to not vanish, which leads to new creature spawn on top of the old instead of in freed place. This results in one of 2 creatures inaccessible for initiating dialogue with, because they can't walk away from each other on their own, but Algernon's cloak does the trick just perfectly, as I believe equivalent spell will do (not tried spell myself, may be the target will become hostile after it wears off, but Algernon is a sure shot). Further, there's only 2 places reported where this happened, with less than important NPCs: nameless barmaid in Blushing Mermaid (or was that some other BG tavern) and nameless prisoner in Flaming Fist prison.

As for renaming creatures, I could see how it is bad because of Sandrah telling you "go to Zoey", and when you came to the point there's no Zoey but Samantha, but this is not game breaking bug for sure. On the other hand, overwriting vanilla creature's dialogue could have been game-breaking, but I saw no statement of Jarl's doing so in Sandrah's readme.

Now, I believe Roxanne is thorough and well knowledgeable regarding different mods inner working, but I have a feeling that this exact case is a bit of overreacting.

With all this said, comes my personal part: under specific gameplay I meant a "six of me" party, so no joinable NPCs, even Sandrah, for me. Thus of Sandrah's mod I only actually needed that part where Region of Terror is modified in such a way that it became doable without joining unwanted NPCs, which is a true blessing for that "six of me" party I had in mind, and I was pretty damn sure that Jarl's can not break this part no matter how it would try Also I wanted to check Waterdeep areas in Infinity Explorer, which should also work perfect Jarl or no

Edited by Creepin, 03 January 2016 - 06:45 AM.

[Roxanne]

agb1, this is not much of an analysis actually, and also I had in mind very specific gameplay, so I don't think this would be of any use for Roxanne, but I'll write it down here in case it could be of any use to you

Spoiler

First thing first, logical part. It is claimed in Sandrah's readme that Jarl's is incompatible because it:
- replaces creatures
- spawn own creatures over vanilla ones
- renames creatures.

To cover both replacing and double spawning: from what I understand, Jarl's indeed intended to replace creatures with its own by making changes to vanilla creatures to disappear upon spawn, and then by spawning own creatures in the freed space, which is obviously bad move. However, in BWS environment some creature fixer installed afterwards (Miloch's, if memory serves) fixes this disappearing, making vanilla creatures to not vanish, which leads to new creature spawn on top of the old instead of in freed place. This results in one of 2 creatures inaccessible for initiating dialogue with, because they can't walk away from each other on their own, but Algernon's cloak does the trick just perfectly, as I believe equivalent spell will do (not tried spell myself, may be the target will become hostile after it wears off, but Algernon is a sure shot). Further, there's only 2 places reported where this happened, with less than important NPCs: nameless barmaid in Blushing Mermaid (or was that some other BG tavern) and nameless prisoner in Flaming Fist prison.

As for renaming creatures, I could see how it is bad because of Sandrah telling you "go to Zoey", and when you came to the point there's no Zoey but Samantha, but this is not game breaking bug for sure. On the other hand, overwriting vanilla creature's dialogue could have been game-breaking, but I saw no statement of Jarl's doing so in Sandrah's readme.

Now, I believe Roxanne is thorough and well knowledgeable regarding different mods inner working, but I have a feeling that this exact case is a bit of overreacting.

With all this said, comes my personal part: under specific gameplay I meant a "six of me" party, so no joinable NPCs, even Sandrah, for me. Thus of Sandrah's mod I only actually needed that part where Region of Terror is modified in such a way that it became doable without joining unwanted NPCs, which is a true blessing for that "six of me" party I had in mind, and I was pretty damn sure that Jarl's can not break this part no matter how it would try Also I wanted to check Waterdeep areas in Infinity Explorer, which should also work perfect Jarl or no

Edited by Roxanne, 03 January 2016 - 07:22 AM.

[agb1]

The problem with GPWSLAY.bcs is caused by the line "0 ANYONE" in EA.ids. Updating BWS to use WeiDU 238.01 beta would be the simplest solution currently but using beta WeiDU in BWS is not recommended, so it would be ideal if we could get a new stable release of WeiDU.