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[WanderingScholar]

I can confirm what Creepin has said about Almateria's Restoration, it's also hanging up my installation. My BWS also doesn't seem to recognize the newest versions of Rogue Rebalancing and Item Randomiser. I had to dump the install contents of both these executables into an a folder and then make an archive of each so BWS could extract them and force the install.

 

I'm sure this has been answered before but are these BWS installs still going to remain compatible for non-EE versions? It caught my attention seeing Ascension out of order in my install list only to find out it's been updated for the EE.

[Almateria]

i'll fix that when i'm not tired ok

[Demtrek]

Is BWS Original BG1+BG2 Trilogy playable anymore? 

 

In the last 2-3 weeks Ive done at least 5 installations of "Tactics" and there are game ending bugs.  I've tried a few posts and configurations but I cant seem to pin point why.  

 

I only play to the end of Chapter 3 each time, after that the game crashed whenever I try to enter Nashkel Carnival, wheather using map or Console.  The other two bugs are Death of Party game crashes before Hand Movie starts.  Duergar Bounty Hunters in the mines, the Rogue Duergar crashed game on his first action.  Each new install I checked these with a pre-gen character quickly skipping through the game to see if they are still present....when they are, I re-install.

 

Ive been using the Default Configuration of "Tactics" with only a couple of changes.  I get rid of Hard Times and I get rid of the the option that makes enemies +1 AC/Save/THAC0 and instead pick add more HPs.  The only conflict that shows is a Potrait Pack, "Drows" not being capatible with "BG Paint".  Ive tried installations getting rid of Drows and keeping it anyway, same bugs either way.

 

I read BWS isnt being updated anymore and since I read that, I was trying to get one last good install.   Am I too late?

 

Has anyone reciently used BWS on a Tactics install and played that far without this happening? or happening also?

 

update May 26th

 

Another install today, Ive attached a copy/paste log of almost everytime the BWS stopped and required a response.   Duergar Thief bug is no longer there and I am able to enter Nashkel Fair after completing the Mines.  But the Death Hand Movie still does not appear upon death of entire party and I simply crash to desktop.

 

Durring installation I had 13 Errors asking me if I wanted to patch a version of a mod that didnt match the current version.  In all cases it was because BW Fixer was using a outdated version of the Mod, no in other words choose "NOT TO PATCH".  BWS Error List BGT.txt   23.57K   543 downloads

Edited by Demtrek, 26 May 2017 - 11:28 AM.

[Roxanne]

Hello,

 

Since I have when people disappear and don't post long-term status/future and because i think that this community deserve clean and straight-to-the-point communication, I bring some news for you:

 

BWS reach it's end-of-support state from my side

 

Anyone who want's to takeover the project can contact me at alienquake(-a-)hotmail.com.

where agb1 quiet? 3 people left, nobody ask why? There must be resones! no one will update? Whyyyy?

One of the reasons whyyyyy not many qualify to maintain BWS may lie here:

 

Supported Games (according to BWS own description)

- Baldur's Gate: Enhanced Edition (standalone game)
- Baldur's Gate II: Enhanced Edition (standalone game)
- Enhanced Edition Trilogy( BG1:EE + SoD + BG2:EE + IWD1:EE + partial IWD2-in-EET ) [sic]
- Baldur's Gate 2

- Baldur’s Gate Trilogy ( BG1 + BG2 )
- Icewind Dale / Icewind Dale: Enhanced Edition
- Icewind Dale II / Icewind Dale II: Enhanced Edition (?? error in BWS description) [sic]
- Planescape: Torment (now EE, but not on BWS list)
- Classic Adventures

 

Even the various possible BG installs are a challenge in its own - but then those other games?

Monumental...even if you had all those games to begin with (just like you need for testing).

 

PS

Just as a personal example - myself, I played and modded and installed with or without BWS uncountable times (and supported BWS and fixpack in the past) but still I just ever used two games from that list, namely BGT and recently EET...

Edited by Roxanne, 27 May 2017 - 12:35 PM.

[The Imp]

... Icewind Dale II: Enhanced Edition
- Planescape: Torment

Yeah... maybe you should start with knowing that there's no such thing as IWD2EE ... but there's PsT:EE, not that it's supported in BWS.

And the BGT is no different from BG2 in thew eyes of the BWS, either.

[The Imp]

Have either of you looked at what this file says about your install, it's in the C:\Users\<windows_user_name>\Documents\Baldur's Gate II - Enhanced Edition\Baldur.lua ? You can open the file with Notepad, or Notepad++
And of course you need to start the game and set the language in the BG2EE to be English in the options menu... . And of course if you don't have a legal copy of the game, we can't support those. As in, in your case you can always ask help from the GoG support.

[The Imp]

Well, try to place this into the Documents sub folder like I posted above.

This could simulate a Steam copy on the GoG game.
 Baldur.zip   1.46K   170 downloads

[Ciswind]

Is BWS Original BG1+BG2 Trilogy playable anymore? 

 

In the last 2-3 weeks Ive done at least 5 installations of "Tactics" and there are game ending bugs.  I've tried a few posts and configurations but I cant seem to pin point why.  

 

I only play to the end of Chapter 3 each time, after that the game crashed whenever I try to enter Nashkel Carnival, wheather using map or Console.  The other two bugs are Death of Party game crashes before Hand Movie starts.  Duergar Bounty Hunters in the mines, the Rogue Duergar crashed game on his first action.  Each new install I checked these with a pre-gen character quickly skipping through the game to see if they are still present....when they are, I re-install.

 

Ive been using the Default Configuration of "Tactics" with only a couple of changes.  I get rid of Hard Times and I get rid of the the option that makes enemies +1 AC/Save/THAC0 and instead pick add more HPs.  The only conflict that shows is a Potrait Pack, "Drows" not being capatible with "BG Paint".  Ive tried installations getting rid of Drows and keeping it anyway, same bugs either way.

 

I read BWS isnt being updated anymore and since I read that, I was trying to get one last good install.   Am I too late?

 

Has anyone reciently used BWS on a Tactics install and played that far without this happening? or happening also?

 

update May 26th

 

Another install today, Ive attached a copy/paste log of almost everytime the BWS stopped and required a response.   Duergar Thief bug is no longer there and I am able to enter Nashkel Fair after completing the Mines.  But the Death Hand Movie still does not appear upon death of entire party and I simply crash to desktop.

 

Durring installation I had 13 Errors asking me if I wanted to patch a version of a mod that didnt match the current version.  In all cases it was because BW Fixer was using a outdated version of the Mod, no in other words choose "NOT TO PATCH". BWS Error List BGT.txt

 

I have encountered the same problem of patching enquiries as well. 

On the other hand, I also have the problem on the lolfixer, "unborker" in particular. 

It can't be installed through BWS or manually. 

The error includes the line "Invalid_argument("String.sub")"

Here is the .debug and my weidu

Attached Files

•  SETUP-LOLFIXER.DEBUG   267.96K   175 downloads
•  WeiDU.log   42.77K   179 downloads

Edited by Ciswind, 30 May 2017 - 03:01 AM.

[Creepin]

I believe that design decision to auto-pull latest versions of the mods, made about 1 or 2 years ago, will be major factor in BWS deterioration speed once it lost its maintainers. If BWS kept using (as an example) mod version 2.3 until someone with the knowledge manually approves switching to 2.4 while doing all the necessary prep work, it could have remain stable, if not completely bug free, for eternity.

Edited by Creepin, 30 May 2017 - 05:26 AM.

[Ciswind]

I believe that design decision to auto-pull latest versions of the mods, made about 1 or 2 years ago, will be major factor in BWS deterioration speed once it lost its maintainers. If BWS kept using (as an example) mod version 2.3 until someone with the knowledge manually approves switching to 2.4 while doing all the necessary prep work, it could have remain stable, if not completely bug free, for eternity.

Agreed. It would be great if we can have the older versions of the BWS (from 1 or 2 years ago). 

[jastey]

The problem is that for some mods these versions would be no longer available for download. And, I would be really glad if we wouldn't discuss "let's use older mod versions" from mods that do get updated.

 

One thing I think could be realized without too many changes would be to disable the automatic downloading. I prefer having to download manually over "tool not working at all".

Next thing that would need to be removed is the necessity of changing revision numbers by hand. Noone can do that longer than a year without burning out. I have no idea how this would be done.

Next level (if I may dream on) is a way to work dependencies, mod compatibilities, and changing subcomponents into the tool without the need of having a university degree in programming. I really have no idea what I am talking about here but some way of using a tool where e.g. the modder can click things like "my mod / subcomponent x needs to be installed before mod y" or something for setting up the installer for players would make it more realistic that modders would do it themselves.

 

Because, we have either mods that get maintained - which, currently, is "unfortunate" because the BWS info is outdated. -> Here we would have modders who would be available for the needed compatibility info.

Or we have mods that don't get updated / maintained which currently is "good" because the BWS and Fixpack data doesn't get outdated. -> Here we don't have modders available but that's not necessary, so.

[The Imp]

... Imp, you completely ..

I don't know about this, but as they have the GoG version of the game, they could not update their game, which invalidates your response as well.
As for needing the patch, yeah... there might be a few mods that do, but I bet most can live without the few opcode changes they bring into their game.
As most of the mods will work without the patch. *

*Note, that this was after the standard response of asking them to update their game... so using the file from the post, the user needs to already be aware of the fault, as they can't fix it.