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Started by MrFaust, Aug 10 2013 12:04 PM
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#1 MrFaust

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Posted 10 August 2013 - 12:04 PM

Hello everyone!
I was thinking the other day. Is there a way to take content from BG:EE and transplant it into the original game? Like the new characters and dungeon. Could this in theory be done?
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#2 CamDawg

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Posted 10 August 2013 - 12:18 PM

Hello everyone!
I was thinking the other day. Is there a way to take content from BG:EE and transplant it into the original game? Like the new characters and dungeon. Could this in theory be done?
In theory, yes. However I would suggest you not pursue this.

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#3 MrFaust

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Posted 10 August 2013 - 12:26 PM

Why is that?
"I can kill with a single word. I can hurl a ball of fire into the midst of my enemies. I rule a squadron of skeletal warriors, who can destroy by touch alone. I can raise a wall of ice to protect those I serve. The invisible is discernible to my eyes. Ordinary magic spells crumble in my presence."

#4 CamDawg

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Posted 10 August 2013 - 12:28 PM

Why is that?
Because it's the IP of a company with a legal department?

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#5 MrFaust

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Posted 10 August 2013 - 12:31 PM

Yeah I suppose. I just want to play with the content I paid for and can't. For what ever reason it doesn't work on my PC.
"I can kill with a single word. I can hurl a ball of fire into the midst of my enemies. I rule a squadron of skeletal warriors, who can destroy by touch alone. I can raise a wall of ice to protect those I serve. The invisible is discernible to my eyes. Ordinary magic spells crumble in my presence."

#6 MrFaust

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Posted 10 August 2013 - 12:43 PM

Even if I could get a tutorial on how to do it would be cool. I don't plan on uploading it or anything.
"I can kill with a single word. I can hurl a ball of fire into the midst of my enemies. I rule a squadron of skeletal warriors, who can destroy by touch alone. I can raise a wall of ice to protect those I serve. The invisible is discernible to my eyes. Ordinary magic spells crumble in my presence."

#7 Kulyok

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Posted 10 August 2013 - 10:47 PM

Gamebanshee wrote that it's a company with a legal department that didn't pay their royalties to Atari, though. (Anyway, if it's true, I'm glad they didn't, because it means they stalled and all the best modders returned to us. It's been way too quiet).

 

Anyway, I think it's legal if the user has BGEE installed, and the mod checks for that. I'd just rip off all the content(dialogue, cre, areas - you have to know how to work with Weidu and read file names via Infinity Explorer) and see if it fits into Tutu/BGT. If it doesn't, I'd rewrite the .cre files and the .are file. If it still doesn't, I'd give up the dungeon and just do the NPCs.


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#8 Avenger_teambg

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Posted 11 August 2013 - 12:36 AM

Aside from the legal stuff, which i agree shouldn't be present if you own both games, there will be some problem with the new features. Not all of them are ToBEx compatible.

 

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Posted 11 August 2013 - 12:38 AM

Gamebanshee wrote that it's a company with a legal department that didn't pay their royalties to Atari, though. (Anyway, if it's true, I'm glad they didn't, because it means they stalled and all the best modders returned to us. It's been way too quiet).

 

Anyway, I think it's legal if the user has BGEE installed, and the mod checks for that. I'd just rip off all the content(dialogue, cre, areas - you have to know how to work with Weidu and read file names via Infinity Explorer) and see if it fits into Tutu/BGT. If it doesn't, I'd rewrite the .cre files and the .are file. If it still doesn't, I'd give up the dungeon and just do the NPCs.

 

This is a very shortsighted approach, also the basic assumption is false too. The game (that works with Intel chipset) would be out, even BG2EE by now, if Atari doesn't go bankrupt. 


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#10 Kulyok

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Posted 11 August 2013 - 01:58 AM

Oooh! False? (You're allowed to say that, right? I mean, you didn't sign some evil confidentiality agreement or something?) Do you know the true story behind BG:EE's 'no-new-patch-no-new-game'?


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#11 Almateria

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Posted 11 August 2013 - 02:23 AM

Seriously tho, how would that be different from what BGT/tutu does?


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#12 MrFaust

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Posted 12 August 2013 - 12:56 AM

That's what I figured Almateria. Its not like I am stealing. I just want to enjoy the content I bought. My PC died and I picked up a cheapo and for what ever reason it runs real slow when I try to play EE. Thought she looked pretty cool.
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#13 Cuv

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Posted 14 August 2013 - 04:44 PM

The BGEE engine has significant changes, fixes and improvements.  Much of the new content simply wont work in vanilla because of the scripting too.  We have new triggers/actions besides the ToBEx stuff.   None of the new areas will work in vanilla, they are pvrz and not TIS.

 

@MrFaust  You should send an email to support@beamdog.com explaining your problems.  Dee can help you get BGEE working on your PC.


#14 Avenger_teambg

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Posted 17 August 2013 - 01:07 AM

Oooh! False? (You're allowed to say that, right? I mean, you didn't sign some evil confidentiality agreement or something?) Do you know the true story behind BG:EE's 'no-new-patch-no-new-game'?

I'm allowed to say anything that i could deduce from non-confidential sources. This one is a no brainer (at least to me).

Atari went bankrupt, can't auction the license but owns it just enough to block further releases.

If my information is false, it's my fault. But i'm pretty sure this is the truth.


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