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[horred the plague]

I have an alpha version of BPv181 in the workroom. It's only in English for now, and there's a lot of TRA-ifying left to do in the tp2 file, but it installs properly (AFAIK) and "should" do what's on the wrapper. This is the time to work out the kinks, before final-cleanup and making it multi-lingual. If anybody is interested in helping test this out before I unleash it on the public, please drop me a PM.

 

Thanks,

Horred

[Azazello]

horred, howdie!

 

How long will you make the alpha/beta phase? I'll be able to kickstart a megainstall in about 2 weeks, or I can make a BG2/ToB-only game if you like.

[Sergio]

I'm a newbie. What help do you exactly need?

[horred the plague]

I'm a newbie. What help do you exactly need?

 

Well, the mod went from around 20 components, to nearly 70. It's not all new content--it's new arrangement. Most of the 50 new ones were broken out of the BP main component. More specialized, less generic. More akin to other tactics/AI mods you see on the market now, in my opinion. Components are intended to be standalone except (in most cases) the Core component. The core no longer is a huge conglomerate, but little more than a standard DS install with BP extra rule bits. Very similar to what is done in BPSeries. Around 20 "library" files for the weidu code instead of a single tp2 file that's 20000 lines long or so.

 

So basically, what is needed is to install stuff and try to check it out in game. Bits of the mod, not the whole mod in one lump sum (we know that much should work as per BPv180). There's still a "generic" component set (much smaller in scope)--try other components out with and without generic  pieces installed.

 

In theory things should work properly as it's rearranged and not fresh material--but it was such a major split there's lots of potential for small/concealed errors. On the bright side, errors in a component should be easier to track down and fix this way--even by others, provided my library files can be successfully maneuvered.

 

 I'm not outruling the possibility that it won't be tested fully until it's used by a lot of people (i.e. live & public)---its content affects the whole of BG2 and ToB after all. It would just be nice to help spot any little/big obvious stuff that I may have missed.

[horred the plague]

horred, howdie!

 

How long will you make the alpha/beta phase? I'll be able to kickstart a megainstall in about 2 weeks, or I can make a BG2/ToB-only game if you like.

 

I'll probably have to do the beta stage as a public release, merely because of the huge scope of this mod. While a mega-install would be a good test, I'm 100% certain it won't work as that stands. BP was broken down into roughly 70 components, with DESIGNATED numbering. It won't even closely match up with a BWP install. Such a mega install would have to be done the old fashioned way, and I'm sure you can remember what a PitA that was.

 

There wasn't much actual content changing this time, the focus on modernizing the weidu and splitting up the beast into little pieces. As the AI itself had very little change, that's not what I'm looking to test out. The most valuable testing at this time would probably be:

 

1) Install BG2-ToB and BP Component "Improved [xxxxx]" (Probably the Core as well; now just a fancy DS install w/ BP embellishments)

2) Go in game and battle a few rounds with [xxxxx] and see if they act right

 

Which would require a bit of familiarity with BP's somewhat-unique approach to enemy AI, as well as the extra madnesses it adds in. As every standalone component can install properly w/o the "generic AI" components, I pretty sure they're each being fed the right scripts etc. But in an update of this scale, there's always room for 101 little errors that can escape immediate notice.

[Graoumf]

We'll take care about the update of the french translation when it's done.

[Xavier1161]

What do you mean when you say it'll need to be done "the old fashioned way"? do you mean not using BWP and just installing everything one thing at a time?

[horred the plague]

What I mean is that the BWP crew will have to adjust their installer once this releases. This is not something I can do for them, though I may be able to simplify the task a little. It's nothing they haven't had to do for other mods in the past. But no, an auto-installer that looks for 20 components numbered 0-20 (roughly) will not magically find a set of 70 components that number from 0 to 5000 or so.

[prowler]

Can I see new lines bpv181alpha for translation? (russian)

[horred the plague]

 

Can I see new lines bpv181alpha for translation? (russian)

 
Sure thing; you're in luck, I just got them gathered together a couple days ago. Here's the list for you, and any other translators that want to get a head start. Testers are digging through the content, I'm fixing as I hear about it, and it's coming together.

//********New in BPv181*********
@15   = ~Use On-screen shouts for opponents~
@16   = ~Use strings on screen~
@17   = ~No on-screen strings (Default)~ 
@18   = ~Adding Scripting Support of Diseases (Until STATE_DISEASED can be fixed)~


@21 = ~Patching STATS.IDS...~
@22 = ~Implementing STATES...~
@23 = ~Big Picture is brought to you by Horred the Plague.~
@24 = ~A special thanks to all the modders and modmakers that made Big Picture possible!~
@25 = ~Be sure to stop through Horred's Lair on your grand adventures!
(Are fireballs considered 'warm welcomes'?)~


@650 = ~Improved Sendai~
@700 = ~Improved Tolgerias and Lavok~
@750 = ~BP General AI and Creature Enhancements~
@800 = ~BP GUI (for GUI Switcher Mod)~
@810 = ~Sea Devils: Sahuagin and Kuo-Toan Enhancements~
@820 = ~Troll Enhancements~
@830 = ~Horred's Lair~


@990 = ~Big Picture is brought to you by Horred the Plague.~
@991 = ~A special thanks to all the modders and modmakers that made Big Picture possible!~
@992 = ~Be sure to stop through Horred's Lair on your grand adventures!
(Are fireballs considered 'warm welcomes'?)~


@2006 = ~BP core not detected, skipping component.~
@2008 = ~BP core not detected, required for Horred's Lair addition.~
@2009 = ~BP core not detected, required for Improved Tolgerias and Lavok.~
@2010 = ~BP core not detected, required for Improved Suldanessallar.~
@2012 = ~BP core not detected, required for Wand of Orcus mod.~
@2013 = ~You must install Ascension Core for this component to work.~
@2014 = ~This component is already installed with TDD.~
@2015 = ~This component is already installed with RoT.~
@2016 = ~Must have BP core installed to install Ascension~


@7002 = ~DS Stats IDS Cleanup~
@7003 = ~Fix for STATE_DISEASED~
@7004 = ~Fix for Wyverns and other 'Mages'~


@7100 = ~BP Detectable Spell Additions~
@7101 = ~BP IDS Rule Additions~


@10001 = ~Miscellaneous Tweaks~
@10002 = ~Add Bags and Magic Throwing Daggers to Stores~
@10003 = ~Custom Grandmastery (w/ extra attacks)~
@10004 = ~Halberds and Spears Extended Ranges~


@10101 = ~Creature Enhancements~
@10102 = ~Animals~
@10103 = ~Beholders~
@10104 = ~Demons and Devils~
@10105 = ~Dragons~
@10106 = ~Drow~
@10107 = ~Duergar: The Works~
@10108 = ~Duergar Irenicus Dungeon Enhancements Only~
@10109 = ~Duergar: Leave Irenicus Dungeon Alone~
@10110 = ~Elementals~
@10111 = ~Generic Mages~
@10112 = ~Generic Priests~
@10113 = ~Generic Thieves~
@10114 = ~Githyanki~
@10115 = ~Golems~
@10116 = ~Hellhounds~
@10117 = ~Humanoids~
@10118 = ~Knights and Paladins~
@10119 = ~Mind Flayers~
@10120 = ~Mists~
@10121 = ~Shadows - The Works~
@10122 = ~Shadows - Just the Shade Lord~
@10123 = ~Shadows - Leave the Shade Lord Alone~
@10124 = ~Shadow Thieves~
@10125 = ~Treant Summoning Spell~
@10126 = ~Trolls~
@10127 = ~Undead (Except Shadows/Wraiths/Vampires)~
@10128 = ~Were-Animals~
@10129 = ~Generic Creature & Script Processing~
@10130 = ~Processing Scripts and Creatures as Required. Please be Patient.....~
@10131 = ~No On-Screen Shouts~
@10132 = ~Duergars~
@10133 = ~Shadow and Wraith Enhancements~
@10134 = ~You must install the generic creature & script processing for this~


@10201 = ~Encounter Enhancements~
@10202 = ~Generic Encounter Enhancements~
@10203 = ~You must install generic creatures and scripts first~
@10204 = ~Beholder Cult~
@10205 = ~Chapter 3 (w/ bodhi)~
@10206 = ~Chapter 3 (no bodhi)~
@10207 = ~Chapter 6 (w/ bodhi)~
@10208 = ~Chapter 6 (no bodhi)~ 
@10209 = ~Chapter 3 and 6 (w/ bodhi)~ 
@10210 = ~Chapter 3 and 6 (no bodhi)~
@10211 = ~Vampire Encounters~
@10212 = ~Copper Coronet and Slavers~
@10213 = ~Drizzt Encounter (Chapter 6)~
@10214 = ~Druid Grove (with Druid Encounter)~
@10215 = ~(Druid Encounter Only)~
@10216 = ~Druidic Improvements~
@10217 = ~Treant Encounters (Includes Druid Summoning Spell)~
@10218 = ~Horreds Lair~
@10219 = ~Mae Var~
@10220 = ~Nalia Quests~
@10221 = ~Tavern Brawl (In the Seven Veils)~
@10222 = ~Planar Prison~
@10223 = ~Planar Sphere Enhancements (including Tolgerias)~
@10224 = ~Improved Spellhold~
@10225 = ~Spellhold Enhancments - Only~
@10226 = ~Chapter Four Enhancements - Only~
@10227 = ~Spellhold Enhancments - Full Package~
@10228 = ~Tanners Quest~
@10229 = ~Trademeet Enhancements~
@10230 = ~Windspear Hills Enhancements~
@10231 = ~You do not have BGT installed; skipping this component~
@10232 = ~This component is already installed with DSotSC.~


@10301 = ~ToB Enhancements~
@10302 = ~Watchers Keep Improvements~
@10303 = ~Must have Throne of Bhaal Installed~
@10304 = ~ToB Improvements~

[prowler]

Thanks Horred the plague! Tell me please which lines shows in-game and which lines shown in dos-prompt. It's important for Russian translation.

[horred the plague]

 

Thanks Horred the plague! Tell me please which lines shows in-game and which lines shown in dos-prompt. It's important for Russian translation.

 
These should all be DOS prompts from the installer only. All lines are from Setup.TRA. Of note is that the BPSeries lines were removed from the TRA and tp2. The two mods will remain seperate for the time being, and w/ any luck can be easily transferred over and simultaneously updated when the time is right. I've been mostly careful with the Setup.TRA numbering, trying not to overlap the two mods.

[blento]

Hi. I'd be glad to test alpha version and report (on a daily basis). I already played version 180 on a Mega-Mod install. Would it be a problem if I tested this on a clean  BG2-ToB install?

Regards

[horred the plague]

*holds the door open for the latecomers* Going to close this request up. I think I can finally say we've got this in the wrap-up stage. Special thanks to Anomaly and dannyb1166 for all their help to date in testing. And of course to the BP Crew--they did a lot of clean-up and modernizing of the installer code prior to my return.

 

If we can avoid any more major calamities, we should have something for ye-the-public in a couple weeks. Stay tuned....

 

NOTE: This does not pertain to ye-the-translators. Your assistance is still most genuinely requested and appreciated. Any languages welcome, provided BG2 can print them. (Would hate to see your efforts wasted).