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[phlaphee]

Thanks for all the input guys! Indeed, item revisions is a mod I wouldn't dream of not having in my BG moded game. Can't wait to see it compatible with 1pp V4!!!

 

Moving on:

18. MINI-MODS:
- The Holy Hand Grenade v1.3

- Lucy the Wyvern v4

- Quallo v1.14

- Shed's Mods v1.03

- Slandor - The Minotaur and Lilacor v1.6

- The Slithering Menace (Snakes) v 3.4

- Au service d'Oghma v1.6

- TurnipGolem v4

- Zalnoya and the Shadow Thieves v1.5

 

19. BG2 RULES, TWEAKS AND SPELLS:

- Ding0's QuestPack v2.3

- Drizzt Is Not Stupid (BGT) v1.1

- Fading Promises v6

- Ghost v2.1

- gMinion v2

- NPC Tweak v5

- Spell Revisions v3.1

- Lost Crossroads Spell Pack for Baldur's Gate 2 = SpellPackB6

- Teleport Spell v14

- The Undying v2.10

- Unfinished Business for BGII v19

- Wild Mage Additions v1.7

 

About the mini mods, i've selected only those that seemed interesting, but as usual, I'm open to suggestions. Or you can just tell me which ones I want to install are not really woth it.

 

About tweaks... well, I really need help on deciding what to install from this selection. I am most interested in how Spell Revisions works together with spell pack.

Edited by phlaphee, 14 February 2013 - 01:17 AM.

[Mike1072]

About tweaks... well, I really need help on deciding what to install from this selection. I am most interested in how Spell Revisions works together with spell pack.

Right now it will work better if you install Spell Pack after SR, but that's pretty much all I can guarantee.

[Lollorian]

Ghost is practically useless (you can't access any of its content in-game unless you CLUAConsole )

 

gMinion is an ancient mod (summon AIs and it won't affect mod-added summons) - choose SCS/BP (preferably former until the latter's updated) instead

 

Wild Mage Additions - only useful if your toon is a wildmage (also adds a VERY difficult - and possibly bugged out in conjunction with AI mods like BP/SCS - battle on the cliffs of Candlekeep, accessible even when you're level 1 Thing is... that battle is kinda essential if you wanna experience 95% of this mod )

 

Undying  - this section only contains the tougher battles components which you should skip if you're using AI mods or prepare to face Bhaalspawn-like characters when you're still between level 2-5... the actual content is a must-install though

[phlaphee]

Thanks LOL, that reduces the list quite a bit! Though I'll have to read the readme for Undying and decide what to do with it.

[Lollorian]

Re: Wild Mage additions

 

Yup the fixed location is the Candlekeep Cliff area

 

Also, like PutridWalker said, the battle is supposed to be like you just waiting for a stupid wild surge that:

Spoiler

turns the dude into a squirrel

So you can just murder him

 

But this has never worked in an install with heavy duty AI mods (so he continues to fight using imba magics and you totally screwed mate )

[phlaphee]

Thank you for the info, yet again, guys!

 

20. ASCENSION-RELATED MODS

- Big Picture v1.80c

- Lol's RezMod v2.5

- Sword Coast Stratagems v21

- Tactics v25

- Turnabout v1

- The Longer Road v1.5.1

- P&P Celestials v5

- Grimuars v3.3da

- Homeward Bound v6

- Throne of Bhaal Revisited beta 4

 

21. KELSEY/SOLAUFEIN RELATED NPC MODS:

- Solaufein NPC v1.04

- Solaufein Flirt Pack v1.1

- Kelsey SoA 2.1

- Kelsey ToB 2.2

- Getting Rid of Anomen v2

- Keto v3

- Nathaniel v4.2

- The Luxley Family v1.1

- Kiara-Zaiya v1.6.2

- NPCFlirt Pack v1.02

- Romantic Encounters v6

- Haer'Dalis Romance v2

- Revised Battles v6.3

- The MTS Crappack v4

- Sarevok Romance v1

- Crossmod Banter Pack for Baldur's Gate II v14

 

Besides the usual comments on mods, there are two things that bug me:

1. Throne of Bhaal Revisited beta 4, is listed in the PDF as Standard, but in the Install.bat it's labeled expert (last time I've checked). Has anyone tried this one? Is there a reason it's labeled expert in the install other than the fact that it's beta?

2. On my last dozen installs, components 29 and 31 of The MTS Crappack v4 did not install, though they were supposed to from what I can tell from the code on the install.bat.  I had to modiffy the code to not do the check for the components necessary, but that will only work for me, who installs the needed moods.

[Lollorian]

Tactics, Revised Battles and P&P Celestials - make sure you really wanna install them because SCS or/and BP more than make up for their absence

 

ToB Revisited - is not only beta and more akin to an overhaul instead of a simple AI mod but also unfinished last I heard (the author seems to have abandoned it for half a year now)

 

Kiara-Zaiya - really old mod that overwrites stuff a lot (only install if you REALLY want to)

 

You don't wanna skip on Crossmod banter pack if you have an NPC heavy install

[phlaphee]

Thanks Lol!

 

Does anyone have any experience with Alternatives v10 mod?

[phlaphee]

Once again, thank you guys!

Ye think it might be a good idea to pin the topic? Dunno, it might help others who are looking for more details on bug free mods.

 

 22. KITS:

- Conductor Kit v1.0

- The Elven Package v0.95

- Legion of Hell

- NPC Kitpack v3

 

23. HLA-TABLES CHANGING MODS:

- Song and Silence (SaA) v5

- Divine Remix v7.1 (former: Cleric Remix)

- Paladins of Faerun Kitpack v4

- Sword and Fist v7

- Rogue ReBalancing v4.50

 

As you can see, I'm not very interested in adding tons of kits to the game. The ones I am interested in are those bought on by Divine Remix and Paladins of Faerun. If anyone has had experiences with the other kits I have listed and that they aren't really worth it, please let me know. I will also be modifying the install.bat to skip kit components for Tactics v25 and Enhanced BG2 v1.1.

 

One thing I'll be doing is assigning Viconia the kit provided by Divine Remix which requires evil characters. Will this break her alignment change in the game via romance? 

 

This is a part of the install I've been waiting to discuss... because of the known issues between Divine Remix and Spell Revisions, Spell Pack and other mods. I would really need some help on deciding weather or not to include Divine Remix in the install. I really like the concept of the mod though it alters the divine spell casters quite a lot, but if the problems are severe, I would rather not have it installed and go with just Spell Revisions/Spell Pack.

Edited by phlaphee, 21 February 2013 - 04:45 AM.

[Jarno Mikkola]

- NPC Kitpack v3

You would probably gain far more if you used the Level1NPCs NPC components ...

[phlaphee]

- NPC Kitpack v3

You would probably gain far more if you used the Level1NPCs NPC components ...

 

Yes, but as far as I know, I have to install it manually, because BWS doesn't handle those components. Correct me if I'm wrong!

[Eric P.]

There's a mod missing from the BG2 NPC list that, IMHO, should never be missed:

 

BTL

 

This mod introduces a pair of extremely well-conceived and well-executed characters, and plays out best when both NPCs are in the party, as they have much interaction between themselves. They're great assets to an adventuring party, and their story is complex and interesting (again, IMHO).

 

The mod's author, Zyraen, is planning to revise and update the mod (dialogue needs serious overhaul, plus other content he's got in mind to improve).

 

Just had to mention it. You could simply toss the mod on the top of your stack, and uninstall it if you encounter problems, or simply don't want it in your installation.

[Jarno Mikkola]

Yes, but as far as I know, I have to install it manually, because BWS doesn't handle those components.

Yeah, you can pause the install time after you install all the kits etc. It's manually install required only because you need to make the choices manually... if you actually wrote all your own choices down, you could make it's install automatic too... but believe me, that's too much trouble.

Edited by Jarno Mikkola, 21 February 2013 - 09:26 AM.

[dabus]

Is there interest to put this into something like the "SHS selection" for the BWS? Any volunteers?

[phlaphee]

Is there interest to put this into something like the "SHS selection" for the BWS? Any volunteers?

 

I can't promise it, but if I see all works well with the selection, I might consider creating my custom selection, and if people are interested, I'll post it.

 

There's a mod missing from the BG2 NPC list that, IMHO, should never be missed:

 

BTL

 

This mod introduces a pair of extremely well-conceived and well-executed characters, and plays out best when both NPCs are in the party, as they have much interaction between themselves. They're great assets to an adventuring party, and their story is complex and interesting (again, IMHO).

 

The mod's author, Zyraen, is planning to revise and update the mod (dialogue needs serious overhaul, plus other content he's got in mind to improve).

 

Just had to mention it. You could simply toss the mod on the top of your stack, and uninstall it if you encounter problems, or simply don't want it in your installation.

 

I've just read about Beyond the Law v1.35 (I think that's what you pointed out) and it does sound interesting! Thanks, I'll be sure to add it to my install!

 

Yes, but as far as I know, I have to install it manually, because BWS doesn't handle those components.

Yeah, you can pause the install time after you install all the kits etc. It's manually install required only because you need to make the choices manually... if you actually wrote all your own choices down, you could make it's install automatic too... but believe me, that's too much trouble.

 

Well... I'll first have to install it alone, just to see how complicated it is to customize NPCs, but indeed, from the mod description it does sound like it helps a lot more.

 

 

Thanks all for the comments, much apreciated! I'm still quite interested in Divine Remix vs Spell Revisions / SpellPack issues!

Edited by phlaphee, 21 February 2013 - 11:08 PM.

[Jarno Mikkola]

They do slightly different things though. And phlaphee: if you decide to use Level1NPCs, the component "NPC's match player level" has bugged out on me several times, so I never install it. Just a heads up.

Well, for me, it has never done that to me, most probably because I know not to use the SCS's NPC proficiency chooser component, cause why would you as the NPC component of the L1NPCs allows you do do exactly that without any restrictions other than the ones set by the class/kit combo... and as far as I am aware of, the component is still unnessasary for the NPC components.

Thanks all for the comments, much apreciated! I'm still quite interested in Divine Remix vs Spell Revisions / SpellPack issues!

I think the suggestion is still to just use one(DR or SR or SP). Well, you could also use the SR with a few components of SP, but that's just crazy.

On kit mods overall, make sure they are updated for Throne of Bhaal (or else they will not have High level Abilities, which is a bummer by the time you realize this)

That's just crazy talk, all the currently uptodate mods like the once you bolded are TOB compatible. There might have been a few in the past, before the weidu mods, but not today.
The only warning I can give is to not use a mod that revises the HLA tables with one that resmakes the Druids(or other classes) to gain them at different level than the original, as you might lock yourself in the gain HLA table without the ability to choise a pick.