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[amitlath]

Is there a way to edit the tp2 or otherwise to install HLA's for specific classes only? This might help in installing Refinements with Divine Remix for e.g. One could just remove all changes to priest classes.

[Jarno Mikkola]

Is there a way to edit the tp2 or otherwise to install HLA's for specific classes only? This might help in installing Refinements with Divine Remix for e.g. One could just remove all changes to priest classes.

Well, copying the .spl files and the related stuff and then editing the HLA tables... it all can be done... it's just that is it a good idea(as in how many people will use it ) ? The Bigg along with other major contributors, might be willing to give you a permission to do a "Refinements HLA's without(some) HLA's"/"Refinements with Divine Remix" -element/mod, but you need to be willing to upkeep your own mod to do that then.

[DavidWallace]

I was only talking about a quick and dirty edit for my own install .

Quick-and-dirty method (not tested): Edit refinements/lib/hlab.tpa in Notepad (or similar). Find the blocks, starting around a third of the way down (c.line 380) that give out the actual HLAs to each class. Delete the block applicable to each class (labelled in the file).

[amitlath]

Thanks DavidWallace, will give this a try. I do feel that it would be a great idea if this mod were to allow modular installation of HLA's for different classes.

[amitlath]

I was only talking about a quick and dirty edit for my own install .

Quick-and-dirty method (not tested): Edit refinements/lib/hlab.tpa in Notepad (or similar). Find the blocks, starting around a third of the way down (c.line 380) that give out the actual HLAs to each class. Delete the block applicable to each class (labelled in the file).

Any idea how to handle multiclasses in the same vein? For e.g if I do a multi Fighter-Druid and I've deleted the druid part, I would still like to get the Fighter hla's that this character would have got with vanilla refinements.

Edited by amitlath, 19 September 2012 - 08:10 AM.

[F-man]

I was only talking about a quick and dirty edit for my own install .

Quick-and-dirty method (not tested): Edit refinements/lib/hlab.tpa in Notepad (or similar). Find the blocks, starting around a third of the way down (c.line 380) that give out the actual HLAs to each class. Delete the block applicable to each class (labelled in the file).

Any idea how to handle multiclasses in the same vein? For e.g if I do a multi Fighter-Druid and I've deleted the druid part, I would still like to get the Fighter hla's that this character would have got with vanilla refinements.

I'm not an expert but you can probably do it like this: For Fighter/Druid, open lufd0.2da file in subfolder of refinements mod and find lines for fighter HLAs and Feral Lash (F-D only HLA). Then open file with same name in subfolder of divine remix mod and replace lines for fighter HLAs (all lines it seems) with lines from refinements. Lines that must be copied for F-D are: 1-7,15,17. Remember to correct line indices afterwards.
Other files are lucm0.2da (Cleric/Mage), luct0.2da (Cleric/Thief), lufc0.2da (Fighter/Cleric) and lufmc.2da (Fighter/Mage/Cleric). Use refinements' HLA documentation to see what HLAs whichever multiclass has to see what lines are the right ones. It shouldn't be hard.
In addition to DavidWallace's advice: In hlab.tpa, delete only lines that effect SINGLE class clerics, druids, paladins and rangers. Also make sure that 2da files that I mentioned are not installed with refinements. The simpliest way to do this is by deleting them before installing refinements as it shouldn't cause any errors.

Edited by F-man, 19 September 2012 - 10:59 AM.

[amitlath]

F-man, thanks for the detailed instructions. Looks like one more relevant file that you missed is lucr0.2da which is the one for multiclass cleric-rangers. I will be trying it this coming weekend and will post results here.

[F-man]

F-man, thanks for the detailed instructions. Looks like one more relevant file that you missed is lucr0.2da which is the one for multiclass cleric-rangers. I will be trying it this coming weekend and will post results here.

I didn't actually miss that as both rangers and clerics are edited by divine remix, but naturally you can add whatever you want. Just be careful that you don't give ranger/cleric any refinements HLAs that you have prevented from being installed.

[amitlath]

F-man, thanks for the detailed instructions. Looks like one more relevant file that you missed is lucr0.2da which is the one for multiclass cleric-rangers. I will be trying it this coming weekend and will post results here.

I didn't actually miss that as both rangers and clerics are edited by divine remix, but naturally you can add whatever you want. Just be careful that you don't give ranger/cleric any refinements HLAs that you have prevented from being installed.

I intend to remove all priest class HLA's from all multiclass combinations with priest classes. The way my install is coming up is: Thieves and Bards from Song & Silence, Priests from Divine Remix and Fighter types and arcane casters from Refinements.

[subtledoctor]

Four years later, I am actually trying to make this happen...