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[Leonardo Watson]

I just wanted to update my Installpack, however, I am not able to upload any file. Thus I sent it to K'aeloree and hope he will upload it soon.

I have completely reworked the install.bat. There is a completly new message strings system. Also some bugs are fixed and a few nice features added. Thanks to Dabus now the language selecting tool is completely changed.

BGT 1.14 includes a new feature that had caused a lot of troubles. Now the install.bat installs BGT correctly again.
Besides: You need the WeiDU beta from the install.bat to be able to install BGT 1.14 at all!

Note: This is only a technical update of the Installpack. No new or changed mods are considered. The install.bat still installs the mods as described in the BWP guide v11. Newer mod versions may or may not work with this installer. If you want to install newer mods you will be on your own. Best you leave them out.

[William Imm]

Please make sure you have included the completely revised BG1 check - WFM and for most other people, and it should work for you as well.

EDIT: For convince, please use this version of the installpack if you are still experiencing issues with the BG1 patch check with GOG & such. Please do not report about this issue anymore, or expect to be in 17 distinct pieces soon after you post.

Please note that this installpack tweak does remove installation of two BG2 Tweaks components (Rest Anywhere and 100% Learn Spells) because they are considered OP for a normal game.

Edited by William Imm, 01 April 2012 - 10:10 AM.

[William Imm]

Besides: You need the WeiDU beta from the install.bat to be able to install BGT 1.14 at all!

I'm inclined to call partial-bull**** on that - BGT needs >= 231 - not the beta WeiDU that the BWP is currently using. Still nice to see that the check is working again.

[P. W. S.]

Besides: You need the WeiDU beta from the install.bat to be able to install BGT 1.14 at all!

I'm inclined to call partial-bull**** on that - BGT needs >= 231 - not the beta WeiDU that the BWP is currently using. Still nice to see that the check is working again.

So is there a conclusion of whether Weidu 23100 does the job well? After all, the warning of 23102 worries a lot

[William Imm]

Well, in most cases. 23102 contains a fix for a case if you install tons of mods, like, a full expert installation, which no sane person will do, except for testers.

[Kaeloree]

You can now grab it from the usual location

[Cerest]

The default settings for Spell System adjustments have a major typo,

The arcane setting is, by your default,
timer=30+n^(11/4)
Where n is the spell level.

This translates to,
Level 1 spells: 30 real seconds
Level 2 spells: 36 real seconds
Level 3 spells: 50 real seconds
Level 4 spells: 75 real seconds
Level 5 spells: 113 real seconds
Level 6 spells: 168 real seconds
Level 7 spells: 240 real seconds
Level 8 spells: 334 real seconds
Level 9 spells: 450 real seconds

The divine spells however, have a different setting,
timer=326+n^(105/4)

This translates to,
Level 1 spells: 327 real seconds
Level 2 spells: 79806665 real seconds
Level 3 spells: 3345283561402 real seconds
Level 4 spells: 6369051672526099 real seconds
Level 5 spells: 2228243323000104369 real seconds
Level 6 spells: 266974832416110802088 real seconds
Level 7 spells: 15269455490616652972468 real seconds
Level 8 spells: 508290694010800208223769 real seconds

...

?

The easy workaround would be to go to the install batch file and change,

%IFSD% Call %INST% iiSpellSystemAdjustments "0" "TYPE iiSpellSystemAdjustments_0_input.txt"
%IFSD% Call %INST% iiSpellSystemAdjustments "1" "TYPE iiSpellSystemAdjustments_1_input.txt"

to

%IFSD% Call %INST% iiSpellSystemAdjustments "0" "TYPE iiSpellSystemAdjustments_0_input.txt"
%IFSD% Call %INST% iiSpellSystemAdjustments "1" "TYPE iiSpellSystemAdjustments_0_input.txt"

.

Also, Spell System adjustments does not detect Identify spell castings from the inventory as a spell cast and thus, does not recharge. I'm not sure how you fix this though @_@

Edited by Cerest, 27 March 2012 - 12:45 AM.

[Lollorian]

The divine spells however, have a different setting,
timer=326+n^(105/4)

This translates to,
Level 1 spells: 327 real seconds
Level 2 spells: 79806665 real seconds
Level 3 spells: 3345283561402 real seconds
Level 4 spells: 6369051672526099 real seconds
Level 5 spells: 2228243323000104369 real seconds
Level 6 spells: 266974832416110802088 real seconds
Level 7 spells: 15269455490616652972468 real seconds
Level 8 spells: 508290694010800208223769 real seconds

Better yet, replace the iiSpellSystemAdjustments_1_input.txt's contents with:

3
30
326
105
Y
2

Attached modified file for omfg convenience

This changes the equation to
timer=30+n^(326/105)

This translates to,
Level 1 spells: 30 real seconds
Level 2 spells: 38 real seconds
Level 3 spells: 60 real seconds
Level 4 spells: 104 real seconds
Level 5 spells: 177 real seconds
Level 6 spells: 290 real seconds
Level 7 spells: 450 real seconds
(No divine level 8 spells mate )

This also meets the 450 sec recharge time for level 9 mage spells set by the BWP

Attached Files

•  iiSpellSystemAdjustments_1_input.txt   23bytes   310 downloads

[Cerest]

Thanks, that works just as well.

Btw, this also needs to be corrected in the main PDF.

Edited by Cerest, 27 March 2012 - 05:53 AM.

[Nicktalope]

Ffirst of all, sorry formy badEnglish.isthe best I cando thanks togoogle translator
Leonardo,I really admireyour work isexcellent and impressiveyour effort,is allI ever wantedto findamega-modinstallation,
I have a question:isit possible to convertthe installationin abatchfilefor installationinWeiDU?I haven'tprogramming knowledge, but you couldunifytpfilesinto onein the order ofinstallation ofthe components aslisted inyour guide?It occurs to meperhaps by copying and pastingit carefully,and probablywill have to "disarm"the components of themods.(maybethere will beproblemsof rights of use, but you canget permission from theircreators?).It seemsmore practicalto start aWeiDUinstallationafter another,andwould reducethe amountof unnecessary files.Ido not know ifthis is possible,or if the programsupportsinstallationWeiDUso great,butwould solvemany problems and would reduceinstallationtimeand potential conflictswith operating systems.
regards

[William Imm]

Nicktalope - at least make sure your words are properly spaced - I have a really, and I mean really hard time reading your message.

[dabus]

Sorry, but that's kind of a fun question.

Putting all TP2 files into one (couldunifytpfilesinto one = could unify tp-files into one) would mean you'd have to have the permission as said -- will not happen. If he would, he wouldn't go through the trouble of patching and so on. Some modders want to have their files at their fingertips so they can update them if there are faults in it/delete them if they don't want to support the mod and don't want to get help-requests for stuff that's already fixed.

Someone (Leonardo) would also have to check each mod for changes before a BWP release and adept the changes. I think that's huge increase in work. Because mods get updated more frequently than the BWP, I'd guess he'd have more work to do than now.

He'd also have to have way more knowledge of WeiDU than he has now, and I also think that he'd have to rewrite some parts.

I guess you could convert the Batch into a tp2-file that calls the other weidus.
But as most mods are build for Windows and you'd have to change some amount of mod-files first (also TobEX is Windows only, right?), it would take some effort to get it to a level where it can compete with the current state in Windows.

[dabus]

The install.bat contains a function called :GETTRA. It searches the Tra.txt for the line that contains a mods name and sets its value as a variable that is used later. Then it gets the entries from the BWP_LANGUAGE (your language choice) and searches the variable for that string. If it's found, it takes the pending number as the language that it will pass to the WeiDU-setup.
When you look at the Tra.txt, it

Look at the tra.txt in v11.1. The mods are just named wrong, so the Install.bat never finds them, cannot put the correct value into the variable and thus is empty. Searching an empty string will fail and thus no selection would ever fit and the batch tells you that.

NeJ2v91=En-0
NeJ2v94=En-0
Should be:
NeJ2v691=En-0
NeJ2v694=En-0

Btw.: The typo was there in the version before, but since there was a fall-back that assumed the mod would be English and the number 0 in case it was not found, it got installed anyway.

[William Imm]

If anyone wants to complain of a looping BG1 check when using the GOG.com/D&D Anthology versions of the game, please don't post and use this altered version of the BiG World Install.bat with my revised BG1 check. Please do NOT whine about this issue anymore - I am sick and tired of hearing it - Google is your ***** friend

[Lollorian]

BiG issues? "BG1 Patch Check" loop? Problems with BGT installation? Use this fix and rejoice!

Might wanna change that to point to the new attachment then yeah?

What would be awesomer would be attach that to your first post here in this thread (right after Leonardo's ) so that anyone who checks this thread can get the fix immediately

EDIT: You might also wanna mention that this install.bat disabled BG2Tweaks component #3031 (100% spell leanring) and #3190 (Rest anywhere) from being installed because they're apparently OP according to this post

Edited by Lollorian, 01 April 2012 - 12:23 AM.

[William Imm]

Thanks, Lol. Updated sig, and my first post as well.

[Leonardo Watson]

I will upload a fixed version of BWP-Installpack v11.1 if the download section will ever work again. (being unable to upload any file)

Edited by Leonardo Watson, 06 April 2012 - 02:32 AM.