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[quinlan]

They're bringing Baldur's Gate to a new generation of players. This can only be a good thing for the modding community.

My 1st experience with DRM is playing Skyrim and having to install/validate it through STEAM. I feel this as a restriction, but what can i do? Money is generated and they have to protect it, i understand that. With my limitied understanding i wonder how will DRM affect the community? I read http://www.shamusyou...dedtale/?p=1680 and i am worried for the modding community...

[Andrea C.]

Well, they did the best they could after the original Baldur's Gate artist Daniel Walker passed away in 1999. It wasn't easy for BioWare to replace him.

I'll have to disagree with you on this one. Daniel Walker was great, yes, but BioWare didn't really do the best they could after his departure. There was no reason to create all new animations and paperdolls for BG2 when they already had perfectly good ones that could have been made to dual-wield with some modifications. It's stuff mods could do, so I don't see any reason why BioWare couldn't. The guys at Black Isle stuffed the new paperdolls and animations in TotLM and they didn't even need dual-wielding compliance! Imho, there really is no justification for a 2012 release to use mirrored, low-resolution sprites and fat or dumb-looking paperdolls. They can be easily replaced with Daniel Walker's work, which is much superior.

[Isilven]

BALDUR'S GATE THREE CONFIRMED IF BGEE AND BG2EE SELL WELL

"Trent Oster of Beamdog has confirmed via Twitter that if BGEE and BG2EE sell well, Beamdog is ready, willing, and almost certainly able to make BG3."

GET EVERYONE YOU KNOW TO BUY THIS. I AM BUYING THIS. I SERVE DAH FLAMAN FIST. YOU MUST GATHER YOUR PARTY BEFORE VENTURING FORTH. YOU HAVE BEEN WAYLAID BY ENEMIES AND MUST DEFEND YOURSELF. FOR THE GLORY OF AMN!

SO EVERYONE WHO IS WHINING ABOUT "OH NOES THE IPAD A BLOO HOO MY PRECIOUS GAME" SHOULD PROBABLY STFU AND BE HAPPY BECAUSE WE HAVE GAME SIGN.

Yes, they are doing this for the money. Obviously they are. They have realized there's a market. Atari has realized that there MIGHT be a market, but they don't want to shell out cash or sign off on anything being made with the licence they own if it's NOT GOING TO MAKE THEM MONEY. BECAUSE THEY'RE A COMPANY. THAT TRIES TO MAKE LOTS OF MONEY. BECAUSE CAPITALISM.

Also, who gives a crap about it being confirmed for iOS, seriously. That's a ton more people who can play the game, who are going to be buying the game, and MORE PEOPLE BUYING THE GAME = BALDUR'S GATE 3. I really, really don't give a flying Boo butt about "OHNOES MY GAME PURITY " if it means that we get the game we have been waiting a decade for.

Edited by Isilven, 23 March 2012 - 07:47 AM.

[Tempest]

BG3 doesn't excite me. The series ended pretty well where and when it did.

[Dakk]

BG3 doesn't excite me. The series ended pretty well where and when it did.

Could a BG3 be a BG1.5? That is, take place between saying "Cheerio!" to Duke Beltan and waking up in the dungeons?

Oh. I just realised that would totally skew the partylevels in BG2...

[Isilven]

BG3 doesn't excite me. The series ended pretty well where and when it did.

Exactly. No more Bhaalspawn, but there's so much stuff that can be done with that license and setting it in Forgotten Realms. Shoot, even if they DO want to include the old characters, why not change it up? CHARNAME goes to Sigil! CHARNAME travels the planes in a Spelljammer ship!

Who would NOT want to play a game that involves a Bhaalspawn (and Minsc and Boo obviously because you can't have a BG game without them) rocketing through space-time in an intergalactic wooden schooner?

[Dakk]

Who would NOT want to play a game that involves a Bhaalspawn (and Minsc and Boo obviously because you can't have a BG game without them) rocketing through space-time in an intergalactic wooden schooner?

I'd have to get back to you on that

[Tempest]

I'd be happy for a new game set in the Forgotten Realms, but not with the Baldur's Gate tag. Though I'd be far happier still if a 3.5E Eberron game was made.

[Rhaella]

I don't understand the point of a BGIII. Are you going to be godly overpowered to the point where everything becomes completely ridiculous? Are you playing as a god? Is it a new protagonist entirely (in which case, why keep the same name)? Having it set as a prequel could be really interesting, but otherwise... I really don't see it.

Who would NOT want to play a game that involves a Bhaalspawn (and Minsc and Boo obviously because you can't have a BG game without them) rocketing through space-time in an intergalactic wooden schooner?

I don't think I've ever kept Minsc in my party.

[Vicen]

Regardless of what happens I am buying all 2 (or 3) games when they come out. I have faith that they will be quite good or (gasp) even better then the originals...And if they are not..? So what? It's not like buying 3 games is going to break anyone's bank...And if it would then perhaps he or she should get a cheaper hobby if that's the case...

[Choo Choo]

I'm with Tempest, here. I'd love for a new game in the Forgotten Realms setting, but not a continuation of the Bhaalspawn saga.

[Daxs]

BG3 a depowering Deus Ex Machina event?

You don't remember what happened. All of your memories beyond defeating Melisan have been fuzzy at best with permanent irrecoverability. Find old friends and new allies and quest for... something?


One could easily do an XP reset for a sequel. What? I can't transfer! Oh no!


I'm hoping for more races. I can be half-orc, why not full orc?

[Creepin]

if it means that we get the game we have been waiting a decade for.

I honestly don't understand what to wait here for? Some stupid polygonal graphics 3d game with lame console-friendly interface and that stinking 3rd or 4th or whatever it's now DnD rules edition slapped on top of it? Meh, couldn't care less even if they came for me begging to play that for free

Edited by Creepin, 23 March 2012 - 01:10 PM.

[phordicus]

BG3 as the end goal has been known for a while.

I hope it's worth playing, maybe even worth purchasing. I just have no reason to think they're going to be the ones to finally restore faith in cRPGs considering what established, formerly-good devs have been shitting out the last 4+ years.

[William Imm]

I feel like BG3 should be a separate campaign - I mean, the Bhaalspawn saga was wrapped up neat and tidily - but that doesn't mean the new campaign can't reference it. Maybe having a Time Skip to the 3rd edition time - or, hell, even to after the Spellplague era if they really want to.

[Eleima]

I'm with Tempest and ChooChoo on this one. The Bhaalspawn saga is over and done with, let th BG games end where they did. I'm all for a new game in the FR setting, though. Just don't call it BG3, start fresh.

Edited by Eleima, 23 March 2012 - 11:17 PM.
Premature posting

[Almateria]

CHARNAME travels the planes in a Spelljammer ship!

A Freelancer-style Spelljammer game would be the best. So of course it'll never be

EA/Oster: Hey, don't mind us! We just wanna leech hard working modders so you can play an old game on your iHipsterDouchebag toy.

Oh god
Anyway, I hope the eventual BG3 will be available on iPad too.

@JonIrenicus3 The UI for #bgee will change for all platforms. We have a lot of resolutions/ aspect ratios to support.

[Andrea C.]

I'll side with those of you who think the Bhaalspawn saga has been concluded neatly and with no voids left to fill. There is no need to add further post-ToB chapters to it. A prequel, if done with all due care to avoid inconsistencies with the original games, could be interesting so long as it was based on the IE with 2e AD&D rules. There is, imho, no other way to tie a game to the BG saga seamlessly. If it's not a prequel and - God forbid - hopefully not a reboot, then it should bear a different name for a different storyline with new characters. I wouldn't mind another IE AD&D game with new characters; I've always dreamt of visiting Waterdeep, for instance

[quinlan]

I am being the devil's advocate here by saying this, but there is - i think - a way for BG3, post TOB. In FR there are several examples of deposed gods, Bhaal being one of them. Cyrus the mad another. Mystra sacrificed herself and was later reborn. I am just saying there are possibilities. Having said that, any game in BG style would be equally welcome for me.

[Tempest]

Unless you don't take the divinity ending. In which case, according to Elminster himself in ToB, there are very, very few people in the world inclined to tangle with you.