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[ShadowTek]

Hi.. is there a mod that works with BWP that adds new races? Specifically I wanna make Imoen a Tiefling.. and Viconia a true drow. (And if I can add the tiefling animation from planescape for Imoen, the animation Annah uses) Is there anyone that would know how to do this?

On a side note, if there IS a existing mod could you tell me what it is.. and if its a expert mod.. what edits would I have to make (If it were the only expert mod I used) to make it work?

Thanks for any help

Edited by ShadowTek, 03 January 2012 - 05:05 PM.

[mr fantastic]

Hi.. is there a mod that works with BWP that adds new races? Specifically I wanna make Imoen a Tiefling.. and Viconia a true drow. (And if I can add the tiefling animation from planescape for Imoen, the animation Annah uses) Is there anyone that would know how to do this?

On a side note, if there IS a existing mod could you tell me what it is.. and if its a expert mod.. what edits would I have to make (If it were the only expert mod I used) to make it work?

Thanks for any help

As far as I know there is no such mod (probably)...however TDD adds some sort of sub classes like drow warrior so it will give you benefits of ...well being a drow I suppose
True drow?? What is that Isn't lovely Viconia true drow anyway ?? (a bit of an exile but still )

You can change your characters race, alignment and ton of many other things using this simple to use tool Shadowkeeper

Edited by mr fantastic, 03 January 2012 - 05:21 PM.

[ShadowTek]

Hi, thanks.. By "True Drow" I ment with all the actual drow benefits and side affect.. according to the D&D rules. Also a actual tiefling race.. with the D&D rules for it. I think I saw a mod that does just that, but not sure its a BWP mod.. (It may be a BP mod) but I cant remember where I saw it or what it was called.

PS.. I know of ShadowKeeper.. I always use it to make one cheat.. I set all base movement to 5 for all my people, as I hate how slow it takes to move around.. (Im not that patient lol)

Also I use it to make the NPCs the class I want.. (but I remove all there stats.. spells.. set hit points to 1, profs.. etc.. and make them 0 level and give them 2 exp (to raise them to level one, as I like raising them on my own from first level in there new class..) that way (from 0-1) it gives them the correct abilities, and then I make a final edit to remove the one hit point, that way I have a accurate class change..

I make Imoen a Fighter/thief

I make the fighter/druid chick that you meet in friendly arms inn in BGI (I can never remember her name) a wild mage.

I make Viconia CG alignment (I like all my people to get along.. shes the only evil chr I take.. shes too fun to not have) and make her a specialized (kit) cleric.

I give minsc (hes too essentially and fun to the game) a specialized ranger kit.

Ive been taking Kvian(sp?) as hes really good, but I dont like him.. (I realy want a kensi here.. but there are none in both games) and I like to stick with all the same chrs in all BGT as I get attached to them with all the time I spend building them up.

EDIT: I know I saw a mod that did this on this site, I just cant remember where or what it was called.

Edited by ShadowTek, 03 January 2012 - 06:11 PM.

[Graoumf]

Maybe Level1NPCs?

[ShadowTek]

Maybe Level1NPCs?

Hi, Ive seen that mod and its really cool but I dont think it adds new races or allows alignment change.. That is a cool mod though.. I dont use it because shadowkeeper does that.. not as good as that mod does.. but allows me to change alignments and things that mods doesn't.. but it is cool that it allows NPCs to restart as you want.. allot of setup to that mod install though (as Ive tried it)

There was a mod somewhere that added all the sub race categories. (like all the elves types, same with dwarfs and all races.. it also added tiefling and a ton of other races..)

Thats the mod Im looking for..

Edited by ShadowTek, 03 January 2012 - 06:43 PM.

[Kaeloree]

Drow lose their racial abilities once they've spent too much time on the surface, which is why Viconia doesn't have any, so lore-wise that wouldn't make much sense.

[ShadowTek]

Drow lose their racial abilities once they've spent too much time on the surface, which is why Viconia doesn't have any, so lore-wise that wouldn't make much sense.

Yes that is true (unless they have the "ring of the drow" read the Daughter of the Drow series (a FR series), Liriel Baenre had a item that allowed her to keep her drow powers on the surface, she latter scribed a ruin into a life tree to make them permenent and didnt need the item.. (I cant remember if it was a ring.. but did same thing as the "Ring of the Drow" in BGT now) in BGT that ring of the drow, I was gonna use that item to justify the drow abilities, (as I like haveing lore correct chrs) you sir are 100% correct though on your observations but to be honest, Im more hoping to have a tiefling race (Drow was just a bonus.. if it existed) I really just want a tiefling.. they were always my favorite race Plus I know I saw a mod that added all this somewhere.


EDIT: Found it:
http://forums.chosen...x.php?topic=7.0

Readme:

Spoiler

***********************************************
* *
* Subrace mini-mod for Baldur's Gate 2 v1.0 *
* author: FinnJO *
* finnjo@suomi24.fi *
* *
***********************************************


The purpose of this mod is to add subraces to Baldur's Gate II. The subraces are based
partially on 3rd edition AD&D rules as in Icewind Dale II and partially on 2nd edition AD&D
rules. This mod works on Baldur's Gate II with Throne of Bhaal installed (I'm not sure if it
works with Baldur's Gate II without Throne of Bhaal (Haven't tested it, but propably
works)).

This mod uses weidu installer so it should be compatible with any other mods
available (just remember to istall all non-weidu mods before istalling any weidu mods).
To install this mod, just extract all the files in your BGII game path and then run
Setup-BGII-Subrace.exe. This mod has four different parts and the installer will ask about
installing every part seperately. To uninstall one or more parts, just run the
installer again and it asks about uninstalling or reinstalling every part seperately. The
first part is the main subrace-mod and the other three are discussed below:

The second part of this mod is called: GUI changes for subrace mod. If you choose to install
this part, it changes the character record screen so that your subrace will show where your
race would normally show (or else it will be shown over your characters name in the record
screen and under the name in the inventory screen). **Do NOT install this part if you have
installed a mod which changes the appearance of your inventory and/or character record
screens in the game!**

The third part of this mod is discussed later on.

The fourth part is called BG1 stat bonuses is not actually a part of the subrace-mod but
another, very small mod, which basically gives your character the stat bonuses which you
would get from various tomes in Baldur's Gate 1 and, naturally, would have them with an imported character. The bonuses are as follows: +1 to Strength, Dexterity, Constitution,
Wisdom and Charisma. (You do not have to start a new game to get the bonuses). Some people will propably consider using this mod as cheating, but I see it more as a convenience (as
you don't have to play BG1 thru every time you start a new game to max your stats).

Now we get back to the main-mod...


To use the subraces in BGII you do not have to start a new game. After you have created your character and started a new game or loaded an old game, after a small delay you get a
dialogue window with the choises for your subrace. You will also have a choice of NOT
choosing a subrace if you, for example, start a new game with an imported character that
already has a subrace.

All NPCs in your game will also have subraces after installing this mod. Below is a list
of NPCs that have any changes (NPCs like Nalia or Anomen naturally have no changes to
their normal race):

- Aerie: Avariel (treated as a moon elf)
- Jaheira: Half-Sylvan Elf
- Haer'Dalis: Tiefling (suprise, suprise...)
- Viconia: Drow (another suprise...)
- Jan Jansen: Rock Gnome
- Mazzy Fentan: Strongheart Halfling
- Korgan: Shield Dwarf

Now here is where we come to the third part of the mod, which is called Alternate NPC
subraces. This mod is for those who have played BG II thru 100+ times and wish to have some
variety to the NPCs. It changes some of the NPCs' subraces to a different than their
normal, more obvious subrace (changes also the characters appearance). Four NPCs have the
alternate subraces at the moment (and more might be implemented later):

- Imoen becomes a tiefling.
- Jaheira becomes a half-drow (just her appearance changes).
- Jan Jansed becomes a svirfneblin.
- Keldorn becomes an aasimar.

And back to more important matters...


In the following are listed all the subraces you get:

**NOTE: Be sure to also read the known bugs section at the end of this file before using
this mod!**


HUMANS:
-------

HUMAN: Just a basic human with no particular advantages or disadvantages.

AASIMAR: Aasimar carry the blood of a celestial being, the begotten offspring from the union
of a mortal and a deity. Aasimar are usually good aligned and fight against evil in the
world. They typically have fair skin, golden eyes, and often a birthmark in the shape of the
deity’s holy symbol. Aasimar are blessed with insight and personal magnetism and are
typically paladins.
- ADVANTAGES: +1 to Wisdom, + 1 Charisma, Infravision, Sunfire 1/day, and +25% to Acid,
Cold, and Electrical Resistances.
- DISADVANTAGES: -10% experience modifier.

TIEFLING: The infernal counterpart to aasimar, tieflings are humans with a hint of the
diabolical in their bloodline. Though their appearance is mostly human, they often have
telltale signs that belie their ancestry. Tieflings usually have dusky skin and dark or
reddish hair. Though many sport small horns, cat eyes, or other bizarre features, most
tieflings try to hide their abnormalities from humans.
- ADVANTAGES: +1 to Intelligence, +10 Stealth, +1 to Dexterity, 25% to Cold, Fire, and
Electrical Resistances, can cast Blindness 1/Day and Infravision.
- DISADVANTAGES: -1 to Charisma, and -10% experience modifier.

GENASI: Genasi are descended from elemental-related creatures, such as efreet, dao, djinn,
jann, and marids, among others. Most of them have had no direct contact with their elemental
forebears, but the signs of their heritage are apparent. Genasi take great pride in their
distinctive features and abilities.
- ADVANTAGES: Infravision.
- DISADVANTAGES: -10% experience modifier.

Different genasi also have their own racial advantages and disadvantages:
- AIR GENASI: +1 to Dexterity and Intelligence, -1 to Wisdom and Charisma, Breathless
(immunity to spells like stinking cloud), and Free Action 1/day.
- EARTH GENASI: +1 to Strength and Constitution, -1 to Wisdom and Charisma, and Non
Detection 1/day.
- FIRE GENASI: +1 to Intelligence, -1 to Charisma, and Burning Hands 1/day.
- WATER GENASI: +1 to Constitution, -1 to Charisma, and Ice Storm 1/day.


DWARVES:
--------

SHIELD DWARF: Shield Dwarves are short stocky humanoids with ruddy cheeks, dark eyes,
and dark hair. Though there are exceptions, they tend to be a dour and taciturn people.
- ADVANTAGES: +1 THAC0 vs. orcs, goblins, and bugbears and +4 to AC vs. giants.
- DISADVANTAGES: None.

GOLD DWARF: In a time when the dwarven race is in sad decline, the gold dwarves of the
Realms received a divine gift from Moradin, the Soul Forger. The father of the dwarven
gods granted the Thunder Blessing upon his people, resulting in a slow growth of the
gold dwarf population. Though its effects may not be felt for decades, gold dwarves are
already starting to re-establish themselves in the Realms as shrewd traders and proud, if
somewhat haughty, warriors.
- ADVANTAGES: +1 to Charisma, +1 to THAC0 vs. Elves, Mind-Flayers and Spiders, +4 to AC vs.
giants.
- DISADVANTAGES: -1 to Dexterity

DUERGAR: Duergar of the Forgotten Realms live even deeper underground than their shield
dwarf and gold dwarf cousins. The duergar share little in common with other dwarves and
practice slavery in their monstrous subterranean cities. Often motivated by greed and a
thirst for power, gray dwarves are known throughout the Realms as devious, efficient
warriors. Duergar almost always have gray hair and skin.
- ADVANTAGES: +4 to AC vs. giants, can cast Invisibility 1/Day, Immunity to Paralysis, +20 to Stealth.
- DISADVANTAGES: -1 to Charisma, -20% experience modifier, -2 to THAC0 and saving
throws when outside during the day.

ARCTIC DWARF: Arctic dwarves, who call themselves the Inugaakalikurit, are the isolated
inhabitants of Faerun's northernmost reaches. Native to mountains at the heart of the Great
Glacier and other northernly regions, arctic dwarves are little known to the outside world.
Arctic dwarves are squat and hardy, whith blocky bodies, pinched faces, and stubby legs.
Their hair is white and skin almost bluish white, but because of their fondness for basking
under the bright sun, many of them are sunburned red from head to toe, a condition that
causes them no discomfort or other ill effects.
- ADVANTAGES: +2 to Strength, 100% cold resistance, +1 THAC0 vs. orcs, goblins, and
bugbears, and +4 to AC vs. giants.
- DISADVANTAGES: -1 to Dexterity and -20% experience modifier.

ELVES:
------

MOON ELF: Moon elves tend to be shorter and slimmer than humans with delicate features.
Moon elves are generally looked upon as being frivolous and aloof.
- ADVANTAGES: None
- DISADVANTAGES: None

DROW: Drow, also known as dark elves, are the subterranean cousins of high elves.
Their black skin and pale hair are a curse for their allegiance with the spider goddess,
Lolth. Drow societies are usually ruled by cruel clerics of Lolth and their noble houses.
Dark elves are known for their arrogance, cruelty, and penchant for civil war.
- ADVANTAGES: +1 to Intelligence, +1 to Charisma, Magic Resistance of 50% and +2% every
level thereafter to a maximum of 80%, +2 to all Spell Saves and Faerie Fire 3/Day.
- DISADVANTAGES: -20% experience modifier, and -1 to THAC0 and saving throws when outside
during the day.

WILD ELF: The very rare wild elves are rarely seen by others, because they live in the heart
of thick forests and they have incredible skill at keeping hidden. Also called green elves,
their skin tends to be a dark brown, and their hair ranges from black to light brown,
lightening to silvery white with age.
- ADVANTAGES: +1 to Constitution
- DISADVANTAGES: -1 to Intelligence

SUN ELF: Of all the elven races, sun elves are the most arrogant and haughty and they
distance themselves from nonelf races and often won't let such "lesser beings" into their
lands. The majority of Faerûn's sun elves live on Evermeet and are famed for their command
of both arcane and divine magic. Sun elves have bronze skin and hair of golden blond,
copper, or black.
- ADVANTAGES: +1 to Intelligence
- DISADVANTAGES: -1 to Dexterity

SYLVAN ELF: Sylvan elves, or wood elves as they also are known, descended from the same
stock as other elves. However, they prefer to live a more primitive lifestyle, more in touch
with their roots in the primeval forests they have made their homes. Wood elves tend to have
darker complexion than their cousins and yellow to coppery-red hair.
- ADVANTAGES: +1 to Strength
- DISADVANTAGES: -1 to Intelligence and Charisma

GNOMES:
-------

ROCK GNOME: Kin to dwarves, rock gnomes are noticeably smaller than their distant cousins.
(Gnomes, as they proudly maintain, are also less rotund than dwarves.) Most have dark tan
or brown skin, white hair, and rather large noses.
- ADVANTAGES: + 1 to hit vs. kobolds, goblins and hobgoblins, +4 AC Bonus when attacked by
giant sized creatures (ogres, giants).
- DISADVANTAGES: None

SVIRFNEBLIN: Also known as deep gnomes, the deep gnomes of the Realms are a secretive,
mysterious race. Found in the deepest caverns of the Underdark, the svirfneblin live in
constant fear of slavery or destruction at the hands of dark elves, mind flayers, and
duergar. Deep gnomes are legendary for their ability to handle stone and gems. They have
gray skin and white hair.
- ADVANTAGES: +1 to Dexterity, +1 to Wisdom, +20 to Stealth, Magic
Resistance of 50% and +2% every level thereafter to a maximum of 80%, + 1 to hit vs.
kobolds, goblins and hobgoblins, +4 bonus to AC, Mirror Image 1/day, Invisibility 1/day,
Blur 1/day and Nondetection.
- DISADVANTAGES: -2 to Charisma, -1 to Constitution and -30% experience modifier.

HALFLINGS:
----------

LIGHTFOOT HALFLINGS: Lightfoot Halflings are short, generally plump people, much like small
humans. Their faces are round and broad, and often quite florid. Their hair is typically
curly, and the tops of their feet are covered with coarse hair.
- ADVANTAGES: +1 to all saving throws.
- DISADVANTAGES: None

STRONGHEART HALFLINGS: While the lightfoot halflings value the experience of travel and the
sight of new lands and peoples, the stronghearts are a more organized, orderly, and
industrious race. They build to last, and fiercely defend their homelands against threats
that their lightfoot kin would simply flee.
- ADVANTAGES: +1 to axe profiency.
- DISADVANTAGES: None

GHOSTWISE HALFLINGS: Ghostwise halflings are the feral, reclusive cousins of lightfoot and
strongheart halflings. They are found most often in the southern forests of the Realms
living in small communities. Ghostwise halflings are rarely seen in large cities, but
occasionally set out to explore the world for reasons known only to themselves. Visitors to
ghostwise settlements often report that the halflings have a kinship so tight with their
fellows that they can communicate without speaking.
- ADVANTAGES: Set Snares 3/Day.
- DISADVANTAGES: None

HALF-ELVES:
-----------

All half-elves have the same advantages and disadvantages, regardless of their heritage.
There are five subraces of half-elves: Moon, Drow, Wild, Sun and Sylvan half-elves.

- ADVANTAGES: None
- DISADVANTAGES: None

HALF-ORCS:
-----------

- ADVANTAGES: None
- DISADVANTAGES: None

**NOTE: The racial modifiers listed here are the ones after BGII's normal racial modifiers**


*************
*KNOWN BUGS:*
*************

There is actually only one known bug at the moment, but if you run in to any others please
let me know!

- If a svirfneblin or a drow characters level is raised when dayblind, his/hers THAC0 and
saves will be raised of their normal values after going out of the sun. This change
however last only till next level up, because the game sets the characters THAC0 and saves
to certain value determined by his/hers level (which actually causes the bug in the first
place). So every time you'r drow or svirfneblin character has enough XP to level up, make
sure your character ain't dayblind while doing so (otherwise you're cheating!!! heh...).


********************************************************************************************

This mod was made using Westley Weimer's WeiDU, Infinity Engine Editor Pro, Gafware's
BAMWorkshop and DLTC Editor Pro.

Thanks to:

- Westley Weimer
- TeamBG
- Everyone involved in creating, updating and maintaining the IESDP modding tutorial
- Welverin (for the idea of making this mod and how to make it. Check his subrace mod
for BG2 at: "http://chosenofmystr...forum.php?f=47")

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But its old and out-dated..

EDIT: theres two mods there.. one newer and may work..

The one I just downloaded is a wierdo (lol) mod.. Im gonna backup and do somthing stupid (to see if it works)

Edited by ShadowTek, 03 January 2012 - 07:16 PM.

[10th]

Thats the mod Im looking for..

You mean this subrace mod?

Problems:
Overwrites .ids files with its own versions if it doesn't find them in the override folder. Can cause all sorts of havoc/major game breakage if installed on top of a finished BWP.
Modifies Newgame.bcs which means you'll only get your subrace in the BG2 part.

Then there's also FinnJO's subrace mod in the same forum which is preferrable.

No .ids problems. It modifies Baldur.bcs and Baldur25.bcs in order to assign subraces. That means, that you're able to start in BG1 with your subrace character. Some obvious candidates get a subrace (Viconia - drow etc.), check the readme for more information.
Don't install alternate subraces for NPCs as it simply overwrites existing files, which will cause problems.

10th

[ShadowTek]

Yes that it:

http://chosenofmystr...opic.php?t=1772

Thats what I found and its same as your link .. but do you think I should install it first before a BWP or after.. as its not a BWP mod?

[ShadowTek]

Sorry to *bump* this.. I deleted my active game as I want to add this.. can someone answer my question about weather I should add this before or after a BWP install.. as its not a BWP mod on the list?

Please Im dying to play again.. but I NEED these adjustment.. that is if they will work with a BWP install...

Thanks for any help.. and if it does work.. I'll report it to the BWP list people so everyone can use this badass mod!!

Let me know!! This is a mod Im not sure why hasnt existed for BWP, see above.. its the SHIT!!

[Azazello]

See also
http://forums.chosen...hp?topic=1008.0
http://forums.chosen...x.php?topic=7.0
and other comments in the main sub-forum.

This is a mod Im not sure why hasnt existed for BWP

Has this mod gotten much play? Even the forum doesn't show activity.

BWP doesn't throw in a mod unless it has some history and testing. Or does it?

can someone answer my question about weather I should add this before or after a BWP install.. as its not a BWP mod on the list?

...I'll report it to the BWP list people so everyone can use this badass mod!!

I suggest before BWP, as you want to see how it installs. Then, if you have some time, play a vanilla game for a bit of time just to see how it operates.

A big question is-- install before or after BG2fixpack? You can present the question on the forum, or just test it yourself by installing BG2fixpack over it, and playtest.

[William Imm]

Just to remind you: If it will make things any easier for you then I can make this into a WeiDU mod and put this under "Mod Resurections". I just need to contact the origional author first before I do so.

(Note: For some reason the security filter on the cruise internet thinks that CoM is malicious...)

EDIT: I would move anything not WeiDU that overwrites dialog.tlk before fixpack/TobEX. Does this mod do so?

Edited by William Imm, 04 January 2012 - 03:24 AM.

[Jarno Mikkola]

Drow lose their racial abilities once they've spent too much time on the surface, which is why Viconia doesn't have any, so lore-wise that wouldn't make much sense.

So the fact that the only Drow NPC in the games has 50% magic resistance is not a lore-wise significant fact ? And the resistance doesn't come from a kit nor other source...

Lore-wise though, the fact that the Drow loose their racial abilities outside their Underdark hubs has more to do with how they live, and not the fact that they are destined to lose them after certain period of time ... say the Drow gain the ability from food or some other source, just like you gain energy from yours, that source cannot be found anymore... so they loose the abilities.

[10th]

@William Imm
It is a WeiDU mod. Which doesn't mean that it doesn't overwrite stuff.
Nowadays it's almost always patching, safe a few cases were it's preferrable to overwrite (item revisions, spell revisions).

@Shadowtek
Took a second look, I'd go with an install before the fixpack. That's because it copies its own action.ids and StatDesc.2da if they're not in the override. While BG2 Fixpack doesn't touch action.ids, it patches StatDesc.2da.

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[ShadowTek]

Hi, thanks for the help, I'll install it first then before the BWP I'll give it a shot and let you know how it goes.

EDIT: Just wanted to pop back in and tell you it worked!! The cool thing is the mod itself added all the subraces, and also made Imoen a Tiefling, and Viconia a Full Drow

Edited by ShadowTek, 04 January 2012 - 06:48 PM.

[Azazello]

Hi, thanks for the help, I'll install it first then before the BWP I'll give it a shot and let you know how it goes.

EDIT: Just wanted to pop back in and tell you it worked!! The cool thing is the mod itself added all the subraces, and also made Imoen a Tiefling, and Viconia a Full Drow

Hurray. Now it's time to playtest.

Be sure to keep the official forum updated on any issues, particularly using the mod in a mega-install.

[ShadowTek]

Hi, thanks for the help, I'll install it first then before the BWP I'll give it a shot and let you know how it goes.

EDIT: Just wanted to pop back in and tell you it worked!! The cool thing is the mod itself added all the subraces, and also made Imoen a Tiefling, and Viconia a Full Drow

Hurray. Now it's time to playtest.

Be sure to keep the official forum updated on any issues, particularly using the mod in a mega-install.

Hi, the mod does work as it says.. it is NOT recommended for BWP install.. at least not yet.. as it has a wierd graphic glich that shows the race name using wide screen on the chr sheet page in the black area.. (off the main screen) though this doesnt affect the game, nor is it a issue, it makes it not at the standard of current BWP mods.. unless people dont mind this glitch. Also as per the read me:

*************
*KNOWN BUGS:*
*************

There is actually only one known bug at the moment, but if you run in to any others please
let me know!

- If a svirfneblin or a drow characters level is raised when dayblind, his/hers THAC0 and
saves will be raised of their normal values after going out of the sun. This change
however last only till next level up, because the game sets the characters THAC0 and saves
to certain value determined by his/hers level (which actually causes the bug in the first
place). So every time you'r drow or svirfneblin character has enough XP to level up, make
sure your character ain't dayblind while doing so (otherwise you're cheating!!! heh...).

Until this bug is fixed, it should probable not be added as official BWP install..

Unless of course players follow what it says above..

Lore-wise though, the fact that the Drow loose their racial abilities outside their Underdark hubs has more to do with how they live, and not the fact that they are destined to lose them after certain period of time ... say the Drow gain the ability from food or some other source, just like you gain energy from yours, that source cannot be found anymore... so they loose the abilities.

Theres a update that does just that.. removes drow abilities in time until they return to the underdark and spend some time there...

From the update:

-------------------------------------------------------------
Welverine (from readme):
Drow:
Male: +1 Dex +1 Int -2 Cha
Female: +1 Dex +1 Int +2 Cha
Both:
50% magic resistance on first level which increases by +2% on every level to maximum 80%.

Innate abilities: 2xFaerie Fire 2xDarkness. On 4th level drow can cast 2xLevitate 2xKnow

Alignment. On 4th level drow priests receive 2xKnow Alignment 1xClairvoyance 1xSuggestion

1xDispel Magic and 1xLevitate.
-4 to party reputation.

Bright light (sun light) causes the drow to suffer: -2 Dex, -2 Thac0, -2 to all saves while in daylight and blindness for one round.

If the drow spends more than two weeks (changed to 3 days in Beiht fix) away from the

subterranean caverns of the Underdark, the special advantages fade at the rate of one power a day. This process can be halted and the powers regained if the drow returns to the Underdark and spends enough time there.

Immunity to sleep- and charm- related spells.
Requires 20% more experience points to level-up.

The link is Here but I cant seem to find those updates, as I do want the Drow to be accurate.. though having a ring of the drow would negate the above loss of powers.. but without one a drow would in fact loss all there powers unless they do as above.. would make the drow race accurate and funner to play..

Anyway.. the mod work as it says it does with the exceptions posted above, those should probably be fixed before adding to BWP install.. but in anycase.. thats what Ive seen so far..

[darkkhaine]

Thanks for your input Shadowtek. I will try this as well with a bwp tactic install and report back.

[ShadowTek]

Thanks for your input Shadowtek. I will try this as well with a bwp tactic install and report back.

BWP doesnt recognize it so you will have to install it first.. but as 10th said:

@William Imm
It is a WeiDU mod. Which doesn't mean that it doesn't overwrite stuff.
Nowadays it's almost always patching, safe a few cases were it's preferrable to overwrite (item revisions, spell revisions).

@Shadowtek
Took a second look, I'd go with an install before the fixpack. That's because it copies its own action.ids and StatDesc.2da if they're not in the override. While BG2 Fixpack doesn't touch action.ids, it patches StatDesc.2da.

10th

It will work if you install it first before starting the BWP install.. and it is a cool ass mod, I wouldn't play without it... One thing you should know.. after you make your chr.. (choosing from default races) after you start in candledeep.. then you will be asked what sub race you want to be.. the mod claims that you can install it last, and that it wont affect your save game.. it will just be added.. but I havent tested that..

I can say that installing it first works as I said above, and all abilities of the sub race are added, including the NPC changes it makes with no problem.. it works as it says.. But I would suggest.. to be sure.. pick a race like human that has no bonuses or penalties to start, then when you change in candledeep, you will know your ok.. Though this is pure speculation on my part..

Edited by ShadowTek, 05 January 2012 - 03:30 PM.

[ShadowTek]

If you guys can update this mod (and I will try to get a hold of the original author for permission) to fix the small.. issues with this mod.. that will be great, I will try and contact the guy that added that addon as well (see above).. and with his permission, I'll post it here so a true sub race mod can be created...

It would be a terrible shame if a mod as good as this was not added officially... a ton of work was done and it works well.. it just needs a few fixes.. I will try and get permission from all parties involved.. if I get them I'll post a screenshot of the e-mail saying so..

ST

EDIT: Requests sent..

EDIT2: I asked for this site to have permission to fix this mod and make it BWP compatible.. will report response as soon as I get one...

Edited by ShadowTek, 05 January 2012 - 10:56 PM.