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#21 Jarno Mikkola

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Posted 04 January 2012 - 09:24 AM

I should install ONLY the Never Ending Journey 2 v42b and after that the NEJ2v602 (patch) and skip anything else NEJ-related (BGTNeJ2 v1.1 and the BGT-Never Ending Journey 2 Compatibility Modification v1.2 )?

Yes, from what I remember and read from the compatibility...

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#22 Azazello

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Posted 04 January 2012 - 09:42 PM

I don't remember such a problem in my previous mega-install, so I must have made some custom changes.

Well, the problem really only surfaced when the component was mistakenly made into the standard edition of the BWP... v10 or later... this was after several versions of BGT-WeiDU being updated to so the characters won't be different in BG1 and BG2.

Which file(s) is affected?

AR0602.bcs and ARAM00.bcs ...

Someone link-me to a detailed, clear description of the problem.

Hopefully, my old file/changes might show how to fix it.

Nope, won't work--the mod is designed specifically for vanilla BG2/ToB.

Erhm, don't say no yet... see as far as I remember to hear, the Level 1 NPCs was originally designed to make Minsc a Berserker, but got a tiny expansion that now also enables us to randomly select an NPC from any project and make it compatible so you can redetermine their class and kit etc.

lol, I think I can speak with authority when I say 'No, that's not it at all' -- as I'm the one who initiated Level 1 NPCs! :lol:

Smiling Imp's mod won't help us at all, as really he wants to create new content for the NPCs, not just allow their untouched transition from BG1 --> BG2.

In fact, a new mod isn't really needed to expand BG1 NPCs into BG2.

Still...if the kinds of ideas I have about the concept take life, it might be better to expand out the BGT-Tweaks component into a separate mod. Personally, I think it should stay in the BGT sphere because that's the most logical place, but maintenance and support of such a mod might be 'more better' if it were separate.

I'm not sure if such a discussion is best to continue here, or in a new thread. Opinions?

#23 William Imm

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Posted 05 January 2012 - 03:42 AM

I guess it would be better to move this into a new thread.

As for my opinion on importing NPCs into SoA, it should be moved into a seperate mod - possibly BGTNPC import.

As well as importing the (not-dead-in-canon) Bioware NPCs, there should be options to give transfer of stats/spells and little "Oh, I know you!" talk for improved contunity. This should also be for mod-added BG1 npcs as well.

EG: If Kuylock's [sic] Xan was installed and CHARNAME had him during the BG1 part of the game, he should reconize CHARNAME when he meets him during BG2,

There should be options for importing BG1 mod NPCs (eg: Indria, Gavin), or BG1 megamod NPCs (Bub Snicket, Jet'Laya, Drizzt [ who will get improved contunty and BG1 stats transfered to RoT or Octavian's version]). Either way, improved contunity is a must for these types of stuff.
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#24 Azazello

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Posted 05 January 2012 - 11:07 AM

Here we go!

[idea] Get more BG1 NPCs into BG2

#25 ShadowTek

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Posted 14 January 2012 - 11:20 AM

I'd appreciate if anyone can confirm or refute this. :)

I can confirm this, and that if you change the NPCs class/kit and stats, they will all be carried over to the BGII... BUT ONLY if they are indeed one of the 5 NPCs that can travel with you from BG1 To BG2, and if that script gets mangled by the NEJBGTv1.2 Imoen component, all the progress is lost.


Dame, just came back to this thread, Ugg.. I installed the NEJBGTv1.2 Imoen component, doh! I guess I should add this info to the incompadible section of my guide.. If I use shadowkeeper to remove the kit (and abilities of the kit), will that work for the transition? Or am I already screwed? (EDIT: Added)

EDIT, I just ran NEJBGTv1.2 and removed the Imoen kit part, of course as it uninstalled everything that was installed after it, then re-installed all of it back, Id have been better off simply reinstalling BWP as it would have taken less time :/

Edited by ShadowTek, 14 January 2012 - 12:56 PM.

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