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[10th]

Can't find a specific forum for this stuff specifically for someone doing a Big World Standard game that was loaded in the default mode.

OK,, Lets start with the "containers". It seems to be a forgone conclusion that the various "bags" ARE going to cause stuttering/slow game play. When I was reading the BWP faq it clearly stated that the "conjurable stores" from I think it was BG1 Tweaks was being replaced by the bags because they were "better". Since they obviously aren't better, how about someone posting the process to put the conjurable stores back into the game? Here is an idea for an interesting mod. Make those stores only work for sorcerers, mages, and magic casting bards.

Please reread those sections again. Containers cause stuttering if you have too many of them AND/OR simply too much items stored in them. That's why BWP doesn't install "Add Bags of Holding" from BG2 Tweaks. Which is unnecessary, as it's still the player's choice to pick them up and use them. Moreover, as extended capacity for containers also causes stuttering, BWP doesn't install maximum capacity components for containers and instead sticks to atweaks's sensible capacity limit.

Additionally ToBEX offers an optimised bag search code in order to fix that problem. If that's not enough for you, use the packmule mod, which adds a "7th party member" which only carries items. If you're interested in the packmule mod, be aware, that any items carried by it won't be checked by the game's code. This can be benefical, as it potentially reduces stuttering, and detrimental, as the game won't recognise that you have an item, as it's in the packmule's backpack.

Bassilus is an evil cleric. An evil cleric using a shield with a Thaco penalty that adds to the armor class of those around it? Give me a break!! There is no way an evil cleric would have that Shield of the Falling Stars. This shield would make a really good starting item for Fitch and it would fit right in with her Bio. And a +1 sword for Bassilus?? Give me another break!! Even an evil cleric should have the weapons appropriate for his class. Give him back that +2 electric hammer. It is the perfect weapon for an evil cleric. Kills slowly by breaking bones and tortures with electricity.

ThAC0 penalty comes from item revisions's shield revision component. Changed item properties obviously also come from item revisions. The +1 sword could come from Lost Items, ktweaks or maybe even BP-Balancer, though I doubt it in the latter case. Moreover, ktweaks would leave his +2 hammer in his inventory.

If you really wanna know which mod was responsible, you'd have to do a change-log on Bassilus's cre-file.

Elander's Gloves of Might. Nice gloves. Why do they reduce the armor class? Are they supposed to? If so why isn't that effect in the description?

Gauntlets of the Drow. No character class restrictions and no mention of it in the description,, but they make a spell caster (any kind of spell caster) have about an 80% spell failure rate.

That's been deliberately changed by the cursed item revision mod. In order to make it more "fun" AND/OR "interesting" the original cursed items were redesigned, by giving them visible bonuses and invisible disadvanteges.

The "SCRIPTS": I like them simple.. What happened to the Ranged script that had the character retreat rather than switch to a mêlée weapon?

Which script related mods are installed?

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Edited by 10th, 07 November 2011 - 11:01 AM.

[Jarno Mikkola]

Please reread those sections again. Containers cause stuttering if you have too many of them AND/OR simply too much items stored in them.

Actually it's caused by scripts that check what items the party has... not the containers themselves, as the game needs to load the content of the .sto file every time it checks what items the party has... and it that check is made 1000 times... ah, stutter.
For example the BGT's item breakage ... eeeh.

ince they obviously aren't better, how about someone posting the process to put the conjurable stores back into the game? Here is an idea for an interesting mod. Make those stores only work for sorcerers, mages, and magic casting bards.

Have you installed the mule mod ? It's what you ask, without the limitations you idiotically ask for... in a Megamod forum, as here, the thinks are done because it's makes things easier... usually.

That's been deliberately changed by the cursed item revision mod. In order to make it more "fun" AND/OR "interesting" the original cursed items were redesigned, by giving them visible bonuses and invisible disadvantages.

Somebody should ask Salk to make the items description to be unidentified one... And add the extra info to the identified one...

Edited by Jarno Mikkola, 07 November 2011 - 02:02 AM.

[F-man]

That's been deliberately changed by the cursed item revision mod. In order to make it more "fun" AND/OR "interesting" the original cursed items were redesigned, by giving them visible bonuses and invisible disadvantages.

Somebody should ask Salk to make the items description to be unidentified one... And add the extra info to the identified one...

Why? From what I have read about cursed items in D&D; some of them seem to appear as non-cursed magical items even after magical identification, so this method is quite suitable. Also the point of the mod was to change cursed items that way and as no-one uses unidentified items that (s)he doesn't already know beforehand, so why bother give cursed items special unidentified descriptions when those just make them even more suspicious.

[Jarno Mikkola]

Why? From what I have read about cursed items in D&D; some of them seem to appear as non-cursed magical items even after magical identification...

Cause they are magical items even after the identifications...
Why, cause they were so in the original game.
Yes, it made the user suspicious, but the items are wearable none the less, and since they have the said effect, why not tell the player...

[F-man]

Why? From what I have read about cursed items in D&D; some of them seem to appear as non-cursed magical items even after magical identification...

Cause they are magical items even after the identifications...
Why, cause they were so in the original game.
Yes, it made the user suspicious, but the items are wearable none the less, and since they have the said effect, why not tell the player...

As I was saying, part of items curse can be that its user won't be able to notice that item is actually cursed until it's too late... and mod's purpose was to change those cursed item's so that they aren't like in the orginal game...

[Sasha Al'Therin]

If you really wanna know which mod was responsible, you'd have to do a change-log on Bassilus's cre-file.

OK,, How would I go about doing this? I am a player, not a modder but I can follow directions.

get a copy of weidu or rename a setup-somemod.exe to weidu.exe then either go to the command/dos prompt and navigate to the game folder and type the following out or create a batch file with the following. either way you'll get what you need.

weidu filename --change-log --out outputfile

replace filename with the file in question and replace outputfile with something sensible that you will know to look for

What is "ToBEX"?

ToBex is a mod that modifies the Throne of Bhaal game version exe file.

[10th]

get a copy of weidu or rename a setup-somemod.exe to weidu.exe then either go to the command/dos prompt and navigate to the game folder and type the following out or create a batch file with the following. either way you'll get what you need.

weidu filename --change-log --out outputfile

replace filename with the file in question and replace outputfile with something sensible that you will know to look for

There's an even easier way to do this, if the BWP was used:
- Look for change-log.bat in your BG2 folder, if it's not there, go to "your BG2 directory"\BiG World Installpack\move to main folder\ and copy it to "your BG2 directory".
- Right-click on it and choose edit.
- Replace ########.### in this line: WeiDU.exe --log nul --change-log ########.### >change-log/change-log.txt --out change-log
with the filename in question. Filename for Bassilus is bassil.cre.
- Save, and double-click on the changed change-log.bat.
- after a short while the command/dos prompt will vanish.
- go to "your BG2 directory"\change-log\ and open change-log.txt

This file lists all mods, which changed the change-logged file in chronological order.

If you want to find out filenames for various things like creatures, spells, items or areas, use Near Infinity and its search function.

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[Fouinto]

Just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should.

Hi,

I don't mean to be rude, but, I guess you should really use change-log (as advised above) to discover the mods/components you dislike and then, don't install them anymore (and let people that like these components/mods play with them ) !

And everyone will be happy

[Jarno Mikkola]

weidu filename --change-log --out outputfile

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There's an even easier way to do this, if the BWP was used:

I know you try well, but it might have been a good idea to link here...

This can be done either by clicking the character and then their weapons and then the enemy to attack, or by selecting all the party and clicking the enemy to attack. This doesn't make control of the character easier.

Push the SPACE button, easy. Uuh, do it before you change the weapon... as you can do the weapons change with all the time in the world.

Now down at the bottom of the script menu there are 4 places for "CUSTOM" scripts. DEFAULT, KELSEYAI, M_RRM, M_RRR . What are these?

What do you think they are ? There's also a description attached... and if they don't, don't nag about that... it's the mod makers fault it doesn't.

Edited by Jarno Mikkola, 09 November 2011 - 01:18 AM.

[GeN1e]

If I had to wildguess, it was Item Randomizer that gave the shield to Bassilus. It is also not recommended to install Randomizer along with Item Revisions, exactly for this very reason.