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[Jarno Mikkola]

NOT INSTALLED DUE TO ERRORS Full Baldur's Gate/Shadows of Amn/Throne of Bhaal Music (WARNING: patches BGMain.exe)

What version of BGII do you have ?
Everything you can give from it helps...
Where it's from, CD, DVD, downloaded(and where)? Have you patched it... etc.

Also did you install any other .exe patching mods ? Widescreen mod, TobEx...

[Jarno Mikkola]

Also, why is that Error Notice (see the spoiler) saying something about Kits in TobEx?! I don't even have TobEx or anything related to it! All I want is to set up the music for my BGT installation the way I have always done. Please help me / please fix this.

The error notice is there to actually say that you need the TobEx to install this mod.
Yes, the print out is wrong, but so what.
And yes, install the TobEx before the BG2Fixpack.

[Jarno Mikkola]

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Only Ascension64 can answer your questions completely, but I bet it has to do with the BGMain.exe patching, and not wanting the one wreck havoc with the another, as the old BGTMusic made parts of the music list not to be used anymore.

[Isaya]

Can you please explain this a little more in detail? What happened to the original BGTMusic Exe patch? I didn't see anything about it in the release notes of recent BGT versions. Why can't I use it anymore the way I used to? TobEx is fine, but why did the BGTMusic setup get changed (apparently)? Why not leave BGTMusic as it was - independent? Doesn't hurt anyone, and preserves the possibility to use it if one doesn't use TobEx. Also, if BGT kind of requires TobEx now, why does BGTMusic start at all if you don't have TobEx, and runs for a while, then stops half way through the process even though 17 music files actually could be installed successfully?!

The message displayed, "Throne of Bhaal requires ToBEx to support more than 256 kits.", is issued by WeiDU 229. It is fixed in WeiDU 230 and will now say "Throne of Bhaal requires ToBEx to support more than 100 musics.".

For details about this WeiDU message, you can check this topic on the WeiDU support forum.

This is not a change in BGT or BGT Music, but rather in WeiDU. BGT Music still patches BGMain.exe to allow for more than 100 musics. This thing is WeiDU now seems to check for ToBEx to allow more than 100 musics and so stops on an ADD_MUSIC command when this amount is reached, despite the patch included in BGT Music.

I believe this change in WeiDU escaped Ascension64 attention when he built version 1.12 with WeiDU 229. The changelog for WeiDU shows that this was probably introduced in WeiDU 228 (at least the message).

[Jarno Mikkola]

I do wonder whether something should be done about the current implementation, that is, WeiDU preventing BGT-Music from doing its job in case TobEx is missing. If the necessity for TobEx stems from the current Exe patch being too "messy", I'd still recommend the interdependency with TobEx to be documented somewhere, just to avoid confusion.

Well, it's not the WeiDU.exe that preventing the install, but the code in the mod itself that prevents the installation, as the required contingencies are not in place.

This is independent from what the WeiDU.exe does with the strings that pop up.
PS: if you want to actually have a properly implemented song list, you need the TobEx, if you don't, then just don't install the BGT-Music mod. And just for your information, the old BGT-Music that pre-dates this version, just overwrote the songlist with one of three shorter ones, and didn't do much else, except file handling that's required to make the BG1 songs to be available to be read by the "new" engine. See this was originally part of the subcomponent that handled the GUI installation too.

Edited by Jarno Mikkola, 01 October 2011 - 07:06 AM.

[Isaya]

I do wonder whether something should be done about the current implementation, that is, WeiDU preventing BGT-Music from doing its job in case TobEx is missing. If the necessity for TobEx stems from the current Exe patch being too "messy", I'd still recommend the interdependency with TobEx to be documented somewhere, just to avoid confusion.

Well, it's not the WeiDU.exe that preventing the install, but the code in the mod itself that prevents the installation, as the required contingencies are not in place.

This is independent from what the WeiDU.exe does with the strings that pop up.
PS: if you want to actually have a properly implemented song list, you need the TobEx, if you don't, then just don't install the BGT-Music mod. And just for your information, the old BGT-Music that pre-dates this version, just overwrote the songlist with one of three shorter ones, and didn't do much else, except file handling that's required to make the BG1 songs to be available to be read by the "new" engine. See this was originally part of the subcomponent that handled the GUI installation too.

Jarno, please, check the facts.

setup-BGTMusic.tp2 hasn't changed at all between v1.11 and v1.12. It's still patching the BGMain.exe as it used to since Ascension64 wrote the patch to allow for more 100 musics. I believe this option appeared in version 1.09 of BGT. It took benefit of going over 100 musics to include all BG and BG II musics (no compromise anymore, as it used to).
However, WeiDU now rejects the ADD_MUSIC when the fatal number, 100, is reached and TobEx is not installed (WeiDU now checks for this, see the link). It used not to check that limit. That is causing the failure when you choose the option to have all musics.

True, I suppose that BGTMusic should now acknowledge this change and add sanity check for TobEx being installed before offering the option to install all musics. Alternatively, it could install TobEx if this option is chosen.

[Ascension64]

I think this is silly and WeiDU should not stop the modder from adding more than 100 songlist lines just because TobEx should be installed beforehand. I will see if the bigg can include an exception of some kind for this, because I do not intend for BGT to be used strictly with TobEx only.