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#1 Tord

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Posted 11 May 2011 - 08:29 AM

Hopefully this is an easy question for someone out there to answer.

I have a Wild Mage going through Shadows of Amn (SoA) with the Throne of Bhaal (ToB) expansion installed, and she only has intelligence 17. Currently, at 18th level, she has two 9th level spells slots available in her mage book. The problem I'm having is, I can't answer why that's the case!

The Ability Scores table in the SoA manual shows Spell Level as 8th for intelligence 17, and I don't see that it was changed in the ToB manual, or even the readme.txt errata included on the CD-ROM. Did they simply lift the restriction for the expansion and not mention it? Similarly confusing, the Wizard Spell Progression table in the ToB manual shows an 18th level mage should only have one 9th level spell available, not two.

The game is unmodded, except for BG2 Fixpack Version 9 (Core Fixes and GTU Light only). The game is version 2.5.26461 with ToB patch 26498 (not the beta patch).

Thanks in advance for any insight! :)

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#2 Dakk

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Posted 11 May 2011 - 08:52 AM

The limit of 9th level for INT <17 is not implemented so far as I know (do note though that INT <19 will not let you know (learn) the maximum amount of spells). That explains the first level 9 spell.

You reached level 18 because your total amount of experience points is >3.000.000. Incidentally, at 3 million EXP you get your first HLA - which looks like a 9 level spell. And that explains the second.

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Edited by Dakk, 11 May 2011 - 08:53 AM.


#3 Tord

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Posted 11 May 2011 - 09:41 AM

Wow, thanks for the reply, Dakk! :) I'm actually very surprised the spell level restriction hasn't been implemented! Too bad.

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#4 Dakk

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Posted 11 May 2011 - 11:05 AM

You're welcome! Yeah for some reason Black Isle didn't implement it, maybe they though (possibly correctly so) that people who missed that limitation would start frothing at not being able to cast those juicy level 9 spells...

Researched the no-INT-cap btw, sources:
Play It Hardcore
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Edited by Dakk, 11 May 2011 - 11:06 AM.


#5 Jarno Mikkola

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Posted 11 May 2011 - 08:56 PM

You reached level 18 because your total amount of experience points is >3.000.000. Incidentally, at 3 million EXP you get your first HLA - which looks like a 9 level spell. And that explains the second.

It's not, the HLA can be whatever... the second spell slot comes from the Wild Mage being a Wild Mage, as that's a specialist, just like the Abjurer is, the normal Mage only has 1 9th level spell... yes the Wild Mage is Over Powered class, just slightly.

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#6 Dakk

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Posted 11 May 2011 - 11:12 PM

Ah there you go, didn't know that. Thanks Jarno!

#7 Tord

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Posted 12 May 2011 - 05:41 AM

Wild Mage, as that's a specialist

Thanks, Jarno! Although I couldn't find it in the manual, sure enough, it's in the Tome of Magic. :P

Here's another interesting restriction apparently not implemented, either: "Only characters with Intelligence of 16 or greater are qualified to become wild mages."

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