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[Zireael]

I'm in the process of creating a mod that restores Khalid to BGII. It's my first mod, so any help is welcome!

Features [which will be in the English beta-release]:
* Original portrait, biography, stats and original Polish soundset from BG 1; English soundset and biography for the English version
* 2 alternate portraits for Khalid (two versions of an edit I requested in ResReq, by Kirara)
* 2 alternate portraits for Jaheira (one by Trista, the other by Lava)
* Khalid as a fighter or as a fighter/mage
* BGT compatibility
* At least two banters for SoA with 16 Bioware NPCs
* At least one banter for ToB with 16 Bioware NPCs
* Romance with Jaheira in SoA and ToB
* Flirts with Jaheira (although probably without erotic content)
* Some lines of Jaheira's dialogues redone
* Disables Jaheira's romance with CHARNAME
* Interjections throughout SoA & ToB
* English translation done by the author
* New epilogues for Khalid & Jaheira
* PIDs and banters with CHARNAME
* Personal quest for SoA & ToB
* Music
* Custom kit for Khalid & Jaheira


Debated features (that may be introduced in later versions):
* Alternate portrait (Plasmocat's)
* Alternate ToB joining dialogue for Picollo's mod "Wychowanek Goriona"
* At least one banter for SoA and one for ToB for the following mod NPCs (7 in total): Xan (Kulyok's), Kivan & Deheriana, Skie (Lava Del Vortel's), Ajantis, Angelo, Coran




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Already done:
* Both versions (Fighter or Fighter/Mage) of Khalid have the original stats & portrait (those will be valid for both Polish & English versions); soundset, and biography from BG1 (Polish)
* 2 alternate portraits for Khalid (two versions of an edit I requested in ResReq, by Kirara)
* 2 alternate portraits for Jaheira by Trista & Lava
* A custom kit for Khalid & a custom kit for Jaheira (both by Lava)
* Two versions (Fighter or Fighter/Mage) of Khalid for ToB and a line for the Fate Spirit to summon him
* A working cutscene of Khalid and Jaheira's & Imoen's banters (over the body) disabled
* Jaheira/CHARNAME romance disabled
* Joining dialogue for SoA & ToB
* Leaving dialogue for SoA & ToB
* Epilogues for Khalid & Jaheira
* Interjections for Slayer change, Tree of Life, Irenicus' defeat & Hell (SoA)
* Interjections for the Throne of Bhaal ending x4 (ToB)
* Reactions to the other person's death & wounds
* PID for both Khalid and Jaheira in SoA and in ToB
* 2 banters with CHARNAME in SoA
* 14 lovetalks with Jaheira in SoA and 7 in ToB
* 9 flirts with Jaheira in SoA & ToB (every one with a few varying versions) [including the original 'twould take a sailor' flirt]
* Timers for lovetalks (30 mins) and flirts (20 mins)
* 2 banters each for SoA with all the Bioware NPCs
* 1 banter for ToB with all the Bioware NPCs (excluding Mazzy and Keldorn; see below)
* 2 banters for ToB with Imoen
* Bonus banters (4 in Underdark SoA) and 1 in ToB
* Interjections in Jaheira's Harpers quest and for the following creatures: Baron Ployer, Firkraag, Coran & Safana, Faldorn, Xzar, Ajantis's death on Windspear Hills, the Gypsy in Trademeet, Aran Linvail, Mook, Chapter 2&6 Bodhi and Elhan, the Harpers in Harpers' Hold, Rylock, Waylane, Chan Zahraa in Trademeet, slaves in Athkatla Slums, Saerk, Maheer the shopkeeper from Waukeen Promenade; and Salvanas! and an interjection into Aerie-Jaheira banter about hair; and a dialogue with the bandit holding Jaheira hostage (SoA)
* Interjections for the "talking heads" [aka. the beginning area of ToB] resurrection of Sarevok, Gorion's wraith, Volo, Nyalee, Amkethran; in the Oasis of Tethyr related to Khalid's quest (ToB)
* Jaheira's interjection with Edwin, Gypsy's prediction for Jaheira, Celvan the mad gnome, her oath upon exiting the Chateau Irenicus redone; a completely new dialogue with Rylock to get him to open the door to Harpers' Hold; Jaheira persuading you (3 times) to go search for Khalid if he's not in the party and she's not talked to Rylock
* New version of Harper Pin (thanks Bigg for the suggestion!)
* Three characters with dialogue and an item for Khalid's quest in SoA
* Two characters with dialogues & a new area (thanks picollo!) for Khalid's quest in ToB
* Readme files in Polish & English

/State as for 7.04.2011/

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Any comments? Wishes? Suggestions? Help? They're all welcome!
Zireael

Edited by Zireael, 07 April 2011 - 10:42 AM.

[Shaitan]

that is an incredible archievement if you can do it truthfully to the game.

I'd try it if you finish it

[Kulyok]

I'd say the Khalid mod will be very welcome. Since the mod is about Khalid BG1 NPC, I believe features like Khalid's BG1 class, portrait and English soundset are really necessary. I don't think such a thing as a personal quest is necessary, though. Also, how many banters will he have with the PC? These days, people download new romances/friendship paths because an NPC will talk to him throughout the game.
Good luck to you. (And, sure, if you succeed with the mod and if you want to submit any crossmod banters with Coran or Xan to Crossmod Banter Pack when it's released, I'll be happy to help).

[Zireael]

I'd say the Khalid mod will be very welcome. Since the mod is about Khalid BG1 NPC, I believe features like Khalid's BG1 class, portrait and English soundset are really necessary. I don't think such a thing as a personal quest is necessary, though. Also, how many banters will he have with the PC? These days, people download new romances/friendship paths because an NPC will talk to him throughout the game.
Good luck to you. (And, sure, if you succeed with the mod and if you want to submit any crossmod banters with Coran or Xan to Crossmod Banter Pack when it's released, I'll be happy to help).

Thank you very much for your comments.
The features you think are necessary are already in (except for the English soundset).
I added PC banters to the Debated Features list. Right now they are not on my list because of the amount of work and time they'd take (I'm studying English at the university and therefore my free time is limited). Same goes for Crossmod content.
Besides, I imagine Khalid would talk more with his wife than with Gorion's ward. He's not exactly too talkative, you know, his stutter.
I have found some betatesters at the Polish forum (Children of Bhaal) and it might speed up the work, improve the quality and give me more incentive to work on it until it's finished.
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I'm off to fix some things the testers reported, expect an update of the first post this evening or on Tuesday.
Zi

[Zireael]

I've updated the first post - I spent the day holed up at home after being sick during the night, so I wrote a bit (at the snail's speed ). Life sucks

Picollo has promised to send me the update with a working cutscene of Khalid and the script that would disable Jaheira's banter in the Irenicus Dungeon (the one that begins "Kha... Khalid?"), so I will wait for that patiently before starting to work on Jaheira's lines. I have a little bit of banters (namely with Valygar, Haer'dalis, Jan Jansen, Keldorn and Mazzy) to write before starting on her, too. But still, the progress is faster than I honestly expected it to be.

Comments and ideas are welcome!

EDIT: Anyone willing to take this up: Khalid's portrait request would be really welcomed!

Edited by Zireael, 14 March 2011 - 10:18 AM.

[Zireael]

Picollo has been good on his promise and that part is now done.
I updated the first post because several more banters have been added (and a surprise for all the BG2 ToB fans).
Zi

[Zireael]

The edited portrait for Khalid has appeared here: http://www.shsforums...d-mod-for-bgii/ and I invite people to say what they think of each version... I find it hard to decide which one is the best!

Several more interjections have been added today and if I have time, maybe I'll add even a few more before this day ends... In any case, expect an update of the first post today.
Zi

[Zireael]

The first post has been updated to reflect what has been done today...
I seriously think the mod will hit beta before Easter (but I don't promise anything).

[Zireael]

The first post has been updated. The most important addition is the flirts.
We (the testers and I) are debating the portrait issue (quite hotly in fact), right now I think I'll offer the original and a few alternates. The point is, which alternates...?

[the bigg]

* Personal quest
* Unique item

I'm going to suggest you to cheat and edit Jaheira's quests (Baron Ployer, Harper Involvement) so that they will happen when you have either Jaheira or Khalid (or both). It makes sense (with some slight dialogue edit) to have Ployer want to curse Khalid, or have the Harpers attempt to use Khalid to Imprison you. As per an unique item, have Elminster give an Harper's Pin to Khalid as well as to Jaheira.

[Zireael]

* Personal quest
* Unique item

I'm going to suggest you to cheat and edit Jaheira's quests (Baron Ployer, Harper Involvement) so that they will happen when you have either Jaheira or Khalid (or both). It makes sense (with some slight dialogue edit) to have Ployer want to curse Khalid, or have the Harpers attempt to use Khalid to Imprison you. As per an unique item, have Elminster give an Harper's Pin to Khalid as well as to Jaheira.

Jaheira and Khalid will be unseparable, I forgot to add.
Ployer's story arc will happen as normal, with the exception that Khalid interjects a lot.
I thought Elminster showed up only when you romanced Jaheira, and therefore will be disabled... right or not? A Harper's pin was debated for Khalid, to the effect that it even features on one of the alternates discussed.
BTW Harper's pin as it is in the original, is laughable. How to make it worthwhile to wear?

[the bigg]

The whole Harper plot (up to Elminster giving the Pin) happens independently of whether CHARNAME is romancing Jaheira or not - the only variable to consider is the party's reputation (must be 15 or higher to get the Pin).

Re: the item, the Pin is more useful than other NPC-specific items; besides, unlike other item types, there aren't many cool amulets, so it's not like the Pin must be able to stand up to the Ring of Vecna or a Mirror Cloak. If you still want to improve it, I'd remove the Non-Detection while adding +1 to AC and saves.

[Zireael]

If you still want to improve it, I'd remove the Non-Detection while adding +1 to AC and saves.

Would it be able to be worn with Ring of protection etc. in vanilla game then?
Because otherwise it's a fine suggestion...
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The portrait issue has been resolved and I've already cropped and named Kirara's edit to work.
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I'm going to work on Jaheira's lines this evening.

[the bigg]

Append the item code to itemexcl.2da to prevent it being wearable with enchanted armor or rings of protection.

[Zireael]

Updated the first post. The mod now includes a new version of a Harper Pin (thanks Bigg!) and an alternate portrait by Kirara. I've started redoing some of Jaheira's dialogues.

[Zireael]

The first post updated again. Comments welcome.

[melkor_morgoth75]

Great idea ... i WOULD love to play it.

Just 2 cents from mine:

1) Is Khalid "continuos" as Imoen in BGT for example? So he would have the VERY same stats (xp, hp,etc...) as he was at the end of BG1?
2) It would be great to have him compatible with Level1 NPC mod so that anyone would play him as he prefers (i'd like him as Ranger for example). Unless of course he has some specific-class dialogues

Thanks for this mod!

mm75

[Senka]

The first post updated again. Comments welcome.

Seems to me it would be wise to point new update. Stars or smth else...

[Shaitan]

What will the profs be? I used to use Khalid as archer in BG, what others might have done something else.

[Zireael]

Great idea ... i WOULD love to play it.

Just 2 cents from mine:

1) Is Khalid "continuos" as Imoen in BGT for example? So he would have the VERY same stats (xp, hp,etc...) as he was at the end of BG1?
2) It would be great to have him compatible with Level1 NPC mod so that anyone would play him as he prefers (i'd like him as Ranger for example). Unless of course he has some specific-class dialogues

Thanks for this mod!

mm75

1) He's got the same stats as in BG1 (important - his intelligence is 15 in all versions, despite the bug in some of his original files). No one has yet tested it with BGT, but the "continuity" is my goal.
2) The answer is the same as for the BGT continuity above. No specific class-dialogues.

What will the profs be? I used to use Khalid as archer in BG, what others might have done something else.

Fighter - 2 stars in longsword, 2 stars in weapon/shield style, 1 star in longbow, 1 star in bastard sword. You can go any way you wish from there (he's Lvl 7)
Fighter/Mage - 2 stars in longsword, 1 star in weapon/shield, 2 stars in bastard sword, 1 star in longbow. Lvl 6/6.

Seems to me it would be wise to point new update. Stars or smth else...

What do you mean?