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[uk109]

Hello, I installed the excellent bgt mod about 18 months ago, it was v1.07. One comment that came with the installation was that the skeletons 'throw dagger' ability did not work and that so far it had not been possible to find a fix for that bug. 18 months on, did that problem ever get fixed?

Thanks

[Ascension64]

Not locally in BGT-WeiDU. There is a TobEx hack that fixes this issue (EquipRanged Action Fix).

[Anomaly]

Out of curiosity, what is the problem with skeletons throwing daggers that needs an exe patch?

[uk109]

Out of curiosity, what is the problem with skeletons throwing daggers that needs an exe patch?

Sorry if you were looking for a more technical explanation (I am not qualified!), but here is the simple one. The problem as I remember it is that in 1 or 2 of the low level areas (south/south west) of the starting point) there are lots of small groups of skeletons that attack the party. The skeletons are equipped with both melee and ranged weapons (up to 10 - 20 throwing daggers), except that there is a bug (bgt bug?) that prevents the skeletons from attacking with the ranged throwing daggers that they carry, thereby forcing the skeletons to close to melee range with the party before they can attack.

This creates 2 problems:

1. The skeletons can be easily killed by the party before they get to melee range by repeated volleys of missile fire from the party, thereby leaving the party unharmed;

2. The throwing daggers that the skeletons carry (but which they cannot use) are actually quite valuable (at low level). Since none of the throwing daggers are actually used, they can all be looted from the skeletons and sold later for gold. The loot from the skeletons is therefore 'unbalanced'.

I believe this is the fix that Ascension is referring to:

http://www.shsforums...ged-action-fix/

unfortunately there are no instructions on how to implement this fix (edit - I guess it is not a straight forward implementation and requires tobex program application to be installed!)

Edited by uk109, 28 January 2011 - 10:16 AM.

[Ascension64]

The fix requires a hack. Hacking requires TobEx. So yes, you would need to install TobEx.

The issue was the AI just doesn't equip single-handed throwing weapons properly when the creature has a shield equipped. If you deleted the skeleton's shield, then the skeleton would probably equip the throwing daggers correctly, but would break vanilla BG1 behaviour. I had a look at this in code, and it appeared to be an issue with the EquipRanged() action. Fix is an exe hack.

[Dakk]

@OP:
Any particular reason you double-posted this here after the same question was answered in you original BGT - skeletons 'throw daggers' ability thread?

[uk109]

@OP:
Any particular reason you double-posted this here after the same question was answered in you original BGT - skeletons 'throw daggers' ability thread?

I am new here and unfamiliar with the layout of the forum. As a newcomer I find it all very confusing.

[Turambar]

I am new here and unfamiliar with the layout of the forum. As a newcomer I find it all very confusing.

Well, this is the right forum to post this, and the website links here, from its BGT page.
I don't know where that other forum comes from, anyway, the description talks about 'gameplay aspects', not about mods
Perhaps, though, the readme should link to the right section of the forum, instead of a generic link to http://forums.spellholdstudios.net