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#1 Janusushi

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Posted 22 January 2011 - 07:19 AM

Hi,

I have a problem with Baldur's Gate 1&2 (with mega mod including BGT) game. It keeps lagging all the time, quite regularily - about twice a second. The lagging doesn't occur when the game is paused or in the menu (equipment, spells etc.) - only during gameplay. The mouse lags and everything lags - my characters can't walk normally, they just stop for a moment and walk, stop, walk... It's really annoying. I turned off all the ambient sounds and 3D acceleration in the game configuration and it didn't help. I noticed it's a bit better when I get rid of the bags of holding (found such solution on a forum) - but I can't get rid of them (too many things for quests etc.), I just sold most items.
My computer has Windows 7 x64, 6 GB RAM, ATI 5650 mobile graphic card, i7 mobile processor... Such an old game shouldn't lag... When I play the game, my laptop becomes quite loud. The CPU usage is about 13% then, but I guess one of the cores is a bit loaded. I've heard it's possible to run the game on one core and it could help, but I have no idea how to do it.
If it helps - I'm using widescreen mod (1600x900) and many more from the Big World Project's list of recommended mods. All works fine (I'm in the 4th chapter now) except from this annoying lagging. I'm sure there's a way to fix it, all in all it's a new and qute good machine and such an old game shouldn't be so demanding;)


Thanks for any tips!

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Posted 22 January 2011 - 07:40 AM

What about the 7, 12, 15, 18, 20, 22... and finally 23.1 in this list. And make sure the sounds were off by opening the baldur.ini and look for the "Low Mem Sounds= 's, like the list point 2 says...

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Posted 22 January 2011 - 08:54 AM

What about the 7, 12, 15, 18, 20, 22... and finally 23.1 in this list. And make sure the sounds were off by opening the baldur.ini and look for the "Low Mem Sounds= 's, like the list point 2 says...



Thanks Jarno!! At first, when I opened my game, it was even worse, but it was probably because there were maaany enemies on that area. When I killed a part of them, I noticed that there's almost NO LAG! Well, in fact no lag in comparison to what it was like before. For the first time since I installed the game;) I don't know what was the reason, and I don't need to know - as long as the lagging doesn't occur! So thanks for help and for the link!

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Posted 28 January 2011 - 11:40 AM

Hi, i just installed A BWP baldur's gate, tactic version, only a couple of mods were missing.
Although, as janusushi, i have a "powerful" computer (say very), and it lags as fuck and i dont get why.
Last but not least, the worldmap is a mess, but everything is working apart from that, even a couple of kits that i could not get to work properly last year.

and needless to say i dunnot quite get how to makes this work fine.

Please, help :(

#5 Jarno Mikkola

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Posted 28 January 2011 - 11:54 AM

Hi, i just installed A BWP baldur's gate, tactic version, only a couple of mods were missing.
Although, as janusushi, i have a "powerful" computer (say very), and it lags as fuck and i dont get why.
Last but not least, the worldmap is a mess, but everything is working apart from that, even a couple of kits that i could not get to work properly last year.

<_<
A new topic would have probably been better.
WeiDU.log's content ?

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Posted 28 January 2011 - 12:01 PM

Sorry about that, but as we have ONE problem in common (and i dont really care about the map problem anyways, even if its really confusing).

heres my log!

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#7 Jarno Mikkola

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Posted 28 January 2011 - 12:06 PM

Like above, the answer 4.12.
Are you pleased about the games configuration(other than the lagging), if so, install the Generalized Biffing...

A thing to note, these will make a few NPCs talk German:

~JA#BGT_TWEAK/SETUP-JA#BGT_TWEAK.TP2~ #0 #2 // Corans Geschicklichkeit auf 19: 1.4.1
~JA#BGT_TWEAK/SETUP-JA#BGT_TWEAK.TP2~ #0 #3 // Diebesfähigkeiten der NPCs neu gewichten: 1.4.1
~JA#BGT_TWEAK/SETUP-JA#BGT_TWEAK.TP2~ #0 #6 // Minsks Gesinnung anpassen -> Minsks Gesinnung auf Chaotisch-Gut (BG2 - empfohlen!): 1.4.1
~JA#BGT_TWEAK/SETUP-JA#BGT_TWEAK.TP2~ #0 #10 // Faldorn als 'Raecher': 1.4.1
~JA#BGT_TWEAK/SETUP-JA#BGT_TWEAK.TP2~ #0 #11 // Safana als 'Saebelrassler': 1.4.1
~JA#BGT_TWEAK/SETUP-JA#BGT_TWEAK.TP2~ #0 #12 // Kivan als 'Bogenschuetze': 1.4.1
~JA#BGT_TWEAK/SETUP-JA#BGT_TWEAK.TP2~ #0 #14 // Cernd als 'Totem-Druide': 1.4.1
~JA#BGT_TWEAK/SETUP-JA#BGT_TWEAK.TP2~ #0 #20 // Allgmeine Fixes: 1.4.1
~JA#BGT_TWEAK/SETUP-JA#BGT_TWEAK.TP2~ #0 #21 // Ruf nach Verlassen von Kerzenburg auf 9 setzen: 1.4.1
~JA#BGT_TWEAK/SETUP-JA#BGT_TWEAK.TP2~ #0 #22 // Soundpatch Part I - Gamesounds: 1.4.1
~JA#BGT_TWEAK/SETUP-JA#BGT_TWEAK.TP2~ #0 #23 // Soundpatch Part II - Personen: 1.4.1
~JA#BGT_TWEAK/SETUP-JA#BGT_TWEAK.TP2~ #0 #27 // Montaron Verbesserung: 1.4.1
~JA#BGT_TWEAK/SETUP-JA#BGT_TWEAK.TP2~ #0 #28 // Xans verbessertes Zauberbuch: 1.4.1
~JA#BGT_TWEAK/SETUP-JA#BGT_TWEAK.TP2~ #0 #29 // Kagain Verbesserung: 1.4.1


And the Generalized biffing can take and hour or even more to install, so don't panic even if the dos window doesn't give out put too soon.

Edited by Jarno Mikkola, 28 January 2011 - 12:11 PM.

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Posted 28 January 2011 - 12:11 PM

I am very pleased, but i thought the generalized biffing was installed, i did the complete tactic installation with the big world project setup, a very few mods were missing, only shed's_mod (couldnt exctract with the big world setup), larsha lester, and solestia didnt work. otherwise, the others were expert version mods (indicated as grey).
I did not know what went wrong, and why the german?
SO basically, my game is laggy as (god laggy), same as janusushi, it works perfectly in the menus and stuff.
Plus : the game takes like 4 minutes to start, when i laucnh it from windows

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Posted 28 January 2011 - 12:13 PM

and i forgot the most important of all. thanks :)

ps : what about my worldmap problem?? any idea on what went wrong???

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Posted 28 January 2011 - 12:15 PM

but i thought the generalized biffing was installed,

Doesn't seem to be, as: Your WeiDU.log's content:

~SETUP-BP-BALANCER.TP2~ #0 #2 // XP for Spell Learning -> At 10% from your current configuration
~SETUP-BP-BALANCER.TP2~ #0 #7 // XP for Disarming Traps -> At 10% from your current configuration
~SETUP-BP-BALANCER.TP2~ #0 #12 // XP for Pick Pocket -> At 10% from your current configuration
~SETUP-BP-BALANCER.TP2~ #0 #16 // Installing files needed for the components of the group "Balancing XP and items of several mods"
~SETUP-BP-BALANCER.TP2~ #0 #17 // Restore original BG1 creatures' XP and items -> Keep custom items from other Mods
~SETUP-BP-BALANCER.TP2~ #0 #21 // Item and XP Balancing for 'Dark Side of the Sword Coast (v2.15)' -> Also randomly remove SOME overpowered custom items (will not affect quest relevanted items)
~SETUP-BP-BALANCER.TP2~ #0 #24 // Item and XP Balancing for 'Northern Tales of the Sword Coast (v1.70a)' -> Also randomly remove SOME overpowered custom items (will not affect quest relevanted items)
~SETUP-BP-BALANCER.TP2~ #0 #27 // Item and XP Balancing for 'Secret of Bone Hill (v2.75)' -> Also randomly remove SOME overpowered custom items (will not affect quest relevanted items)
~SETUP-BP-BALANCER.TP2~ #0 #30 // Item and XP Balancing for 'DrizztSaga (v1.0)' -> Also randomly remove SOME overpowered custom items (will not affect quest relevanted items)
~VECNA/SETUP-VECNA.TP2~ #0 #0 // Vecna Artifacts: v12
~SETUP-BP-BGT-WORLDMAP.TP2~ #0 #0 // Worldmap for Baldur's Gate - including colored Baldur's Gate map icons: v8.01
~SETUP-BP-BGT-WORLDMAP.TP2~ #0 #1 // Worldmap for Throne of Bhaal -> Use new Worldmap for Throne of Bhaal as well: v8.01
~LEVEL1NPCS/LEVEL1NPCS.TP2~ #0 #0 // Nythrun's Level 1 NPCs: List party-joinable NPCs (required to install any NPC components): v1.4
~LEVEL1NPCS/LEVEL1NPCS.TP2~ #0 #3 // Joinable NPCs more closely match the player character's experience: v1.4
~LEVEL1NPCS/LEVEL1NPCS.TP2~ #0 #51 // Balanced BG1 NPC attributes -> mos_anted's revision: v1.4
~LEVEL1NPCS/LEVEL1NPCS.TP2~ #0 #55 // Dudleyfix for BG1 NPCs: v1.4
~LEVEL1NPCS/LEVEL1NPCS.TP2~ #0 #60 // Fix BG1 NPC spells and innate abilities: v1.4
~LEVEL1NPCS/LEVEL1NPCS.TP2~ #0 #100 // Update game references to NPC classes/kits: v1.4
~SETUP-BGTMUSIC.TP2~ #0 #2 // Baldur's Gate Trilogy - Music -> Full Baldur's Gate/Shadows of Amn/Throne of Bhaal Music (WARNING: patches BGMain.exe)
~WIDESCREEN/WIDESCREEN.TP2~ #0 #0 // Widescreen Mod -> for the original Infinity Engine (CHOOSE THIS!): Widescreen Mod v3.01
~CREFIXER/SETUP-CREFIXER.TP2~ #0 #0 // Creature Slot Fixer: v2
~SETUP-INNATE_FIX.TP2~ #0 #0 // Innates Set to Level One

It should be around the BGTMUSIC...

Plus : the game takes like 4 minutes to start, when i laucnh it from windows

And that's just another symptom of not biffed game file.

Edited by Jarno Mikkola, 28 January 2011 - 12:17 PM.

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Posted 28 January 2011 - 12:36 PM

and i forgot the most important of all. thanks :)

ps : what about my worldmap problem?? any idea on what went wrong???

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Posted 28 January 2011 - 12:45 PM

ps : what about my worldmap problem?? any idea on what went wrong???

A screen shot might help, or somewhat more of an explanation of what's actually off that would tell us something other than it's a mess, and you do know that when you install a mod, any mod, you need to start a new game and not use an old save...
And you are welcome, as always. ^_^

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Posted 28 January 2011 - 12:51 PM

i m actually biffing the game so i dont wanna launch the game so i dont have a screenshot but basically, baldurs gate is well upnorth, as well as candlekeep, its like located near waterdeep and not on the baldurs gate location were it is supposed to be, i dont know why.
and i m playina a brand new game of course.

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Posted 29 January 2011 - 10:15 AM

i rei n stalled the worldmap mod and it still does not work.
The locations on my world map are not at there right places. i dont know why

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Posted 29 January 2011 - 10:59 AM

i rei n stalled the worldmap mod and it still does not work.
The locations on my world map are not at there right places. i dont know why

Can you uninstall the Worldmap mod and upload your worldmap.wmp file (located in your override directory) and your weidu.log file?

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Posted 30 January 2011 - 05:10 AM

here it is

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Posted 30 January 2011 - 05:36 AM

So... After some time without this ******* lagging, it started again:/ Not as much as before, but still. And - a new problem appeared. When I move the screen (left, right, up, down, anywhere), it... don't know how to describe it. It's like the refreshing rate was terribly low. It's like a perfect example of a game not recommended for someone with epilepsy;) I didn't change anything in the game configuration (or baldur.ini) except from the frame rate which I had set to 30 (as it was suggested in the FAQ). Earlier it was 60 and there wasn't any problem. Now I just can't stand it, looks like the screen was shivering or something;)

You're writing about generalized biffing - I had to uninstall it once to change widescreen mod setup (well, in fact it uninstalled automaticly and then didn't want to reinstall if I remember well), so how can I check whether it's installed at the moment or not? Maybe this is the reason of this stupid lagging. The map is fine in my case, everything at its place. Some people talk in German... and all the other people in the game talk in English even though I play a polish version (btw, sorry for my mistakes in English;). Playing BG is always a way to learn English, isn't it? :)

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Posted 30 January 2011 - 06:28 AM

so how can I check whether it's installed at the moment or not?

Open the "WeiDU.log" -file from the game directory with any text editor, like Notepad, read the few last lines, it should be there, with ~setup-generalized_biffing.tp2~ or something similar, if it's there, the files have been biffed, but if it's not, your game is guaranteed to lag because of that, and it will start far slower too !!!

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#19 Janusushi

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Posted 30 January 2011 - 06:58 AM

(...) If it's there, the files have been biffed, but if it's not, your game is guaranteed to lag because of that, and it will start far slower too !!!


OK, Generalized Biffing is installed. So it's not the reason. Any ideas what can be? My game starts and loads very quickly - about 5 and up to 10 seconds respectively. It's just lagging and now this frame or refreshing rate or something is bad...
You buy a new computer not to have such problems, and you do, all the more...

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Posted 30 January 2011 - 07:31 AM

It's just lagging and now this frame or refreshing rate or something is bad...
You buy a new computer not to have such problems, and you do, all the more...

Does it help if you pause the game and then do the screen move/scroll ?
What Graphic Card do you have ? Ups. :wacko: This might help, or the listed configurations in this, even on ATI card.

Edited by Jarno Mikkola, 30 January 2011 - 07:37 AM.

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