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[Jarno Mikkola]

Let's break this a bit so we can answer...

I'm planning a complete BG-replay with my recently purchased "Baldur's Gate 4 in 1" copy and landed here while browsing the web for possible patches.

What you should do is install both games and both addons (to different directories), and then patch them with the best patches, the (the BG1&BGTotSC v1.3.)5512, and (BGII - SoA & ToB v2.5.)26498, and then start both games with a one of the pre-made characters(import) so tha games make an auto-save after which you can quit them.

Besides the patches and the BGT is there any other stuff that needs to be installed? Or is there stuff that is not necessary but recommended to have, because it makes the game better/more playable? I read something here about tweaks and Fixpacks - is it advisable to have that? And if yes, which one or ones (there are so many things here its quite overwhelming)?

Well, the BG1 install needs to be clean when you make the BGT from the BGII, you can the install mods to the BG1, but not before. Or you can go ahead and uninstall the BG1 if you like to have the space back.

The BGT(-WeiDU) is self sufficiant, so it doesn't excatly need anything else, but if you like to enhance the game play, you can do that in multiple ways... ask if you need help for that, I'll just say that for bigger resolution(than the 800x600 and the 1024x768), you need to use the Widescreen mod, or the game can crash just like the reqular BGII does, and that needs to be installed after the BGT(-WeiDU, from here on out it's just BGT).
PS, use the G3 download link(direct download link). The game looks nice in a 1920x1200 res by the way.

If you intend to use the (G3)BGII Fixpack, it needs to be installed before the BGT, and the BGII Tweak pack should be installed after the BGT if you wish the items the BGT adds also be modified by the tweaks.

[Jarno Mikkola]

So from what you write this ought to be the correct order: ...?

Exactly.

In the download section I saw there's also a BGT-Tweak Pack (9). Does this do the same as the BGII-Tweak Pack? Can I install both or better not?

You should/need to install both if you wish to have the tweaks form both.
I would put the widescreen mod after those(BGII Tweaks & BGT Tweaks) because you might wish to see everything and so change the resolution, but ...

[Jarno Mikkola]

Just out of curiosity: Why must there be autosaves before the BGT is installed?

It's the short way of making sure that you game is properly installed/setup and that it actually works.

And do both tweak-packs affect both games? Or does the BGT-Tweaks only work for BGI and the BGII-Tweaks only for BGII?

Well, as you play the BGT in your BGII engine using the BGII's resources, the BG1 is untouched by the BGT Tweaks... so it need to be installed to the BGII folder... now then, the BGT Tweaks alter the game resources, but they have been made to alter it so that the major effect comes in either before you kill Sarevok or just after, or during the transition, the whole list:

The components of this modification are:
-Eldoth reminds of Skie’s ransom
-Add Semaj's Cloak and Upgraded Koveras' Ring of Protection
-Major locations explored upon visit
-Druid/Ranger-responsive bears in BG1
-Happy patch
-Import more items into Shadows of Amn
-Random activated traps in the pirate cave
-Bags of the Sword Coast
-Altered spawns
-Arkion reacts to player’s reputation
-Coran responds to the death of a wyvern
-More bandit scalps
-Altered item shattering
-Hooded unarmoured mages and thieves
-Salk’s Pen-and-Paper ruleset corrections
-Import more NPCs into Shadow of Amn
-Restore BG2 XP bonus for traps, locks, and scrolls
-Protagonist’s biography modifications
-Exotic weapons for Taerom
-Item BG1-ification
-Disable hostile reaction after charm
-Enemy items shatter
-Access Ulgoth's Beard west of Wyrm's Crossing only
-Prevent access to Durlag's Tower from adjacent areas
-Put Sword of Chaos +2 in Sarevok's inventory

And the BGII Tweaks edit the resources in general, like amount of stagged arrows in inventory space, XP table... that effect the game as a whole, the BGII Tweaks is compatible with the latest version of BGT-WeiDU, the BG1Tutu and EasyTutu, Classic Adventures, the Icewind Dale in BGII and whole lot of other BGII mods, but it doesn't natively work with BG1.

Edited by Jarno Mikkola, 14 January 2011 - 03:34 AM.

[Jarno Mikkola]

I searched a bit and saw that there are 3 patches for different versions (US, UK and International).
My problem: I have no clue what version my TOSC is. It was bought in the UK but I spose that doesn't really mean anything. And the readme doesn't give a hint as to what version it is.

Is there any way to find out the version?

It shouldn't matter what version you have UK or US, there is a small chance that the language used in one version is not the exact same as the others, but that shouldn't matter that much.
Now, the distinction was that the UK version is the Euro-English version, and the US is the North American-English version, and the International is the Non-English one...

But none of that should actually matter, as I have a UK original game, and a US patch use on it. The legal language in the Readme's say this:

5. European Information
This information is not valid in North America.

3. Interplay Customer Service Information
This information is only valid in North America.

As for moding, it shouldn't matter what of those patches you use, as long as it's a (v1.3.)5512 one.

[Jarno Mikkola]

I just saw that there is also another patch for ToSC for DirectX versions higher than version 7. I didn't bother installing it, because the description says it is mainly necessary for multiplayer games. Or is installing it recommended after all (as in relevant to the BGT)?

Don't install anything this old game throws at you with the name DirectX, because your computer has 2 or 4 evolutions better version already inside it.

[Jarno Mikkola]

Hi. So I hope that's the right place to post this question, it seems fitting here. Let's say that I have everything installed and ready, but then something happens to overall system and forces me to reinstall my XP. Now, is there any way to run BGT, and avoid the time-consuming process of reinstalling both games and merging them together again?

Yes, put the Play CD in, quit the front end program that has only Install & Exit buttons, then go to the game directory and select the BGMain.exe, then right click it and choose the Send to: Desktop(create shortcut)... and then just play the game from the shortcut. Easy.

[Jarno Mikkola]

Is there actually anything BGT-relevant to keep in mind when transitioning from BG2 to ToB?

What do you exactly mean ?
The character remain the same if you have the BG1 portions NPCs... that's quite a lot, and quite much it.
Uh, and just in case, you play the BGT-WeiDU by starting the BGMain.exe in the BG2 game folder, not the one in BG1's...

[Jarno Mikkola]

So I was wondering if something similair must be done at the end of BG2 in order to get to ToB. Or does the BGT not interfere here at all?

Ahh, the BGT-WeiDU doesn't, but there is a few mods that should change it a bit... the SCSII start the second part from the game in the Watcher's Keep, from where you can exit to the forest with the stoneheads... and there should be couple of other mods, but the BGT doesn't change this bit.

[Dedoverde]

Hi to all, im new in this forum, im an old school player but a noob when it comes to mods . I have been trying to install BGT all day long and had no sucess. I´ve followed the tutorial and have the complete install of saga with the correct patchs.. During the instalation process many weird error messages apear and in the end it asks me if i want to try to install it again.
im using windows XP
the debug flies ate atached
any help would be appreciated

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[Ascension64]

Oh, the installation didn't like spaces in your directory that you typed in. What exactly did you type in? Did you use any quotes (")? You shouldn't use any quotes (").

If you move your BG1 installation temporarily to something simple like c:\bg1, then install BGT, and then move the BG1 installation back, that should work.

Edited by Ascension64, 18 February 2011 - 04:48 PM.

[Dedoverde]

Oh, the installation didn't like spaces in your directory that you typed in. What exactly did you type in? Did you use any quotes (")? You shouldn't use any quotes (").

If you move your BG1 installation temporarily to something simple like c:\bg1, then install BGT, and then move the BG1 installation back, that should work.

Hey man, i did as you said and its working fine!! thanks a lot!!!!!! its great to be able to play such a great game again with all these new features. Now im going back to cloudpeak mountains rs, greetings from Brazil

[Ascension64]

Glad to hear that it works. Would you be able to answer the questions so that I might be able to improve BGT-WeiDU to prevent this from happening in the future?

What exactly did you type in [originally for the BG1 directory]? Did you use any quotes (")? You shouldn't use any quotes (").