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[Kwiat_W]

I'm wishing for scrollable HLA selection menu. I hope this one isn't difficult as there are already similar hacks.

[Jarno Mikkola]

I'm wishing for scrollable HLA selection menu. I hope this one isn't difficult as there are already similar hacks.

It's in the Beta 0013's "-Scrollable Level Up Mage Spell Selection: Fixed a bug with selecting high-level abilities" already...

Edited by Jarno Mikkola, 10 February 2011 - 01:07 PM.

[Ascension64]

I'm wishing for scrollable HLA selection menu. I hope this one isn't difficult as there are already similar hacks.

It's in the Beta 0013's "-Scrollable Level Up Mage Spell Selection: Fixed a bug with selecting high-level abilities" already...

Well, no it is not. The 'fix' for the HLA selection was to disable the scroll bar entirely for HLA. Which mods overload the HLA screen so I can play around with?

P.S. Does the pack mule walking sounds work with the recent test version of TobEx?

[Kwiat_W]

I just checked and unfortunately it still doesn't work. (and I'm sure I have done everything right)

There are no mods that overflow HLA selection screen for now, but I'm working on a mod that allows player to select one of about 100 abilities every level and currently it's done via dialog menu, using HLA screen would be much more elegant solution. (the mod will be released soon, it just needs proofreading)
If you are wiling to look into this then I'm attaching a modified HLA table for mage that has 30 abilities listed (it's filled with lvl 1 mage spells), so scrolling would be needed to see all of them.

Attached Files

•  LUMA0.zip   488bytes   154 downloads

[the bigg]

IIRC, the rangers get the extra proficiency via CLAB, so there's no need to alter the exe.

[Ascension64]

I just checked and unfortunately it still doesn't work. (and I'm sure I have done everything right)

I am sure you have as well. Can you try once more with the latest test release?
http://www.shsforums...post__p__508018

Edited by Ascension64, 11 February 2011 - 03:59 AM.

[Kwiat_W]

It works now. Thanks.

[Miloch]

I just checked and unfortunately it still doesn't work. (and I'm sure I have done everything right)

I am sure you have as well. Can you try once more with the latest test release?
http://www.shsforums...post__p__508018

So now that this works apparently, would Infinity Animations have to go through and append aniwlk or whatever with all the animations it adds? What about BG2 slots that exist in the unmodded game but don't have animations by default (things like MCYC cyclops etc.)?

[Ascension64]

Any animIDs not in ANIWKSND.2DA and you plan to use will need to have a specific line in the .2DA if you want them to have any walking sounds at all.
So If I don't have a line for the cyclops animID (I can't check at the moment) you will need to add one.

Edited by Ascension64, 11 February 2011 - 02:20 PM.

[phordicus]

is it within ToBEX's ability to add a new scripting trigger? if so, it'd be amazing to be able to check a LOCAL on another creature.

Global(S:Name,O:Object,I:Value)

[DavidWallace]

is it within ToBEX's ability to add a new scripting trigger? if so, it'd be amazing to be able to check a LOCAL on another creature.

Global(S:Name,O:Object,I:Value)

This feels like something that would be convenient rather than needed (you can always avoid needing to use this by setting GLOBALs instead). I think other things being equal there's a lot to be said for only modifying the engine when something can't be done at all within the existing engine.

[Kulyok]

Fake-Talk Exploit
Attribute Drains Can Cause Scores to 'Wrap Around' To Max Values
Bags of Holding Recharge Items

I would like to second these three, because it's something really, really easy to exploit and is almost as distracting as "drink a few potions of Master Thievery and sell and buy stolen items non-stop"(which has thankfully been tweaked via other mods). If you could tweak at least one out of three, that'd be a huge help.

[Ascension64]

Thanks, Kulyok. It's on my to-do list (which is getting ever-larger).

[the bigg]

is it within ToBEX's ability to add a new scripting trigger? if so, it'd be amazing to be able to check a LOCAL on another creature.

Global(S:Name,O:Object,I:Value)

This feels like something that would be convenient rather than needed (you can always avoid needing to use this by setting GLOBALs instead). I think other things being equal there's a lot to be said for only modifying the engine when something can't be done at all within the existing engine.

Actually, it's somewhat useful if you're writing an NPC that wants to acknowledge a certain banter you had between two other party members - since these are usually tracked via LOCALS, without the proposed extension to Global{,GT,LT,TimerExpired,TimerNotExpired} you usually have to ADD_TRANS_TRIGGER into the original dialogue to set a GLOBAL you can check. Somebody might even want to write a group of enemies that can check each other's variables to better coordinate their actions. Of course, you'd have to either drop support for Mac PPC users (Mac Intel users can use a Windows bgmain.exe and run it via Wine, thus having access to EXE patching/extending goodness) or use softcode alternatives to preserve compatibility.

Edited by the bigg, 15 February 2011 - 04:02 AM.

[Daulmakan]

Is it possible to make imported characters retain their HLAs (assuming they had any when they were exported)?

[the bigg]

is it within ToBEX's ability to add a new scripting trigger? if so, it'd be amazing to be able to check a LOCAL on another creature.

Global(S:Name,O:Object,I:Value)

.. After actually thinking about this a bit more, TriggerOverride(O:Object*) would be better if feasible; it evaluates to True (taking up an extra slot in OR()) and makes the next trigger be evaluated on the given target:

IF
  TriggerOverride("Aerie")
  HasSpell(CLERIC_CURE_LIGHT_WOUNDS)
THEN
<...>

IF
  OR(3)
    HasSpell(CCLW)
    !TriggerOverride("Aerie") // negated to avoid falsifying the OR()'s return value
    HasSpell(CCLW)
THEN

<...>

Edited by the bigg, 16 February 2011 - 03:43 PM.

[GeN1e]

If it is indeed feasible, I'd retain the action format - TriggerOverride(Object,Trigger()). More intuitive and stable.

[the bigg]

If it is indeed feasible, I'd retain the action format - TriggerOverride(Object,Trigger()). More intuitive and stable.

This would be better in theory; in practice, the BCS format doesn't have the space to add the TriggerOverride object; moreover, even if it did, modding tools wouldn't be able to operate on it (at least without being altered to do so).

[phordicus]

yes, i couldn't give a rat's ass about this re:dialogs. this is more about setting up tactics and kit options for individual creatures.

also, is it possible to "activate" the Class and Race scripts on in-party creatures?