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[Ascension64]

Oh, I see. You want separate different spell/item sources.

[fearless]

Im wondering if its possible to use this tool to make an ingame map editor, by utilizing the existing resources in the game engine, adding own content (actors, containers etc) and then saving info to output files. I suppose it would take a lot of modding to achieve this though - seperate cloned installation specially modded to show modding menu/buttons, then load an existing area up. Some sort of overlay to delete/add containers, actors, creatures. Probably too complicated though i suspect.

[Ascension64]

Ehm, yeah, I think you are asking a bit too much for me there.

[GeN1e]

IETME/DLTCEP allow map edition and have an good interface. Making yet another map editor imo is pointless by now.

[Sam.]

I've got another small convenience tweak request. When buying from a store, you can only select 16 (or 16 stacks) of an item to buy at a time, even when the item you are buying would stack in your inventory to only take up one slot. Can this number be raised?

[Ascension64]

I've got another small convenience tweak request. When buying from a store, you can only select 16 (or 16 stacks) of an item to buy at a time, even when the item you are buying would stack in your inventory to only take up one slot. Can this number be raised?

I suspect this is too much work for too little gain here, sorry.

[Daulmakan]

The Maximum HP Modifier effect has the option to update or not the current HP with the chosen modifier. If update is enabled, the item will heal the character everytime it's equipped. The not update option solves this, but at the expense of having the HP bonus vanish whenever a new area (or the game) is (re)loaded, so the item has to be reequipped for the bonus to work. Can something be done about this?

Kudos for the new release, BTW.

[Galactygon]

You will then have to change the nature of timing mode 2 - which works like a permanent timing mode that's updated each time a character equips some sort of item, enters an area, atc. Ascension/Taimon probably know this is better detail.

-Galactygon

[the bigg]

The BG2Fixpack docs contain some interesting bits. Refer to the URL for detailed description. Yes, I suspect some are impossible and/or too much work and/or might cause trouble elsewhere, but listing is free

These aren't (IIRC) fixed by any mods:
Multiclass Cleric-Rangers Receive HLAs at Incorrect Levels
Fake-Talk Exploit
Kit Abilities Restored When Character Rejoins the Party
Attribute Drains Can Cause Scores to 'Wrap Around' To Max Values
Bags of Holding Recharge Items
Spell Effects and Scripts Remain Active During Time Stop
Launchers That Do Not Require Ammo Damage Exploit

(Sort of) fixed, but in another mod:
Weapon Specialization Does Not Provide Extra Attacks for Non-Fighters (tb#tweaks)

Not from that page, but might help less attentive modders:
Cleric/Rangers aren't detected by CLERIC_ALL (fixable by manually checking for C/R when checking for C_A, but error prone).

[Galactygon]

Spell Effects and Scripts Remain Active During Time Stop.

This more has to do with TS incrementing the durations and delays of sll spell effects by TS's duration, and making sure stuff fired during TS have incremented durations and delays. I'm against making effects trigger after TS expires, because that will mess up the AI into thinking whatever protection spell has not been cast yet.

There's one that fixpack attempts to fix, and really bugs me the way it does:
- Invisibility granting save bonuses, II granting AC bonuses against creatures that do not detect invisible things (io invisible detection by script).

-Galactygon

[the bigg]

This more has to do with TS incrementing the durations and delays of sll spell effects by TS's duration, and making sure stuff fired during TS have incremented durations and delays. I'm against making effects trigger after TS expires, because that will mess up the AI into thinking whatever protection spell has not been cast yet.

I'm well aware that some of the bugs I mentioned can't, or shouldn't, be fixed. I've just copied verbatim the list from the Fixpack documentation, minus the two things that are already fixed by ToBEx.

Also: it's possible to overflow the thieving skills, since they're stored in an unsigned byte (you can't spend more than 250 points at level up, but once you factor in the bonuses from race/ability points/equipment it can overflow). This is another "don't do this", but I think it should't be hard to enforce a 0-250 cap via the .exe.

EDIT: a tweak to allocate thieving skill points in increments of 5 at level up might be nice (especially when leveling up a lvl 25 thief 20 times in a row while testing).

EDIT II (actually hampering Refinements and not just navel-gazing): AddKit() only saves the upper half of the dword, rather than the full dword (same issue as Kit()). As such, calling AddKit() on a Barbarian (and I assume on a Wild Mage) will write a nonsensical value for the kit.

Edited by the bigg, 23 January 2011 - 08:58 AM.

[Dakk]

Ascenscion64:
In a somewhat similar vein to " -Added: Disable Force Inventory Pause", I seem to recall that when looking at the minimap no auto-pause functions works. So if I send the party on a long stroll and watch the progress on the minimap, the first hint that enemies are nearby is that a random character is severely damaged. Could this be fixed (unless it's just my local behaviour)? Addendum; will autopause work if the aforementioned tweak is installed, and I'm browsing the inventory while enemies attack?

(Sort of) fixed, but in another mod:
Weapon Specialization Does Not Provide Extra Attacks for Non-Fighters (tb#tweaks)

I've thoroughly searched the bigg house, and cannot find this component - neither is it mentioned in the readme?

[the bigg]

tb#tweaks is currently at 2.50, and the component is "wspatck for all". Updated the readme on bigg.spellholdstudios.net.

Edited by the bigg, 23 January 2011 - 09:08 AM.

[cmorgan]

Compatibility for EasyTutu_ToB installs?

[fearless]

I seem to recall that there is a hardcoded limit for amount of joinable NPCs that you can have in your party at one time. Possible to change this with TobEx? or would this entail adding support for other scripting options as well, for example Player7, Player8 etc. Might be a bit much?

[Daulmakan]

I seem to recall that there is a hardcoded limit for amount of joinable NPCs that you can have in your party at one time. Possible to change this with TobEx? or would this entail adding support for other scripting options as well, for example Player7, Player8 etc. Might be a bit much?

Oh, and there will never be a party of > 6 characters enabled by TobEx.

[Miloch]

In the BG2 you always get only 1 attack in a round with off-hand, even if you do 10 atackks in a round, but animations says that you do tham identically for both hands , so maeby it could be fixed

I think not - not without revising animations frame-by-frame and possibly implementing new animation sequences.

Is't possible to add compatibility with spell animations from pst? (with bigger resolution than bg2)

I also think not, as the maximum pixel size is 256. But there is an easy fix for this - either downsize the animations (with BAM Resizer or whatever) or "quarter" them (cut them into four separate animations which fire at the same time).

Here's a request: how about logging *something* every time the game crashes? Like the last few actions or dialogues/scripts triggered, the last few creatures visible, the area the party was in, even a forced screenshot might help.

[Shaitan]

Here's a request: how about logging *something* every time the game crashes? Like the last few actions or dialogues/scripts triggered, the last few creatures visible, the area the party was in, even a forced screenshot might help.

I might add, that this will spare Miloch of asking each and everyone if logging On=1 has been added to the .ini

[Ascension64]

The BG2Fixpack docs contain some interesting bits. Refer to the URL for detailed description. Yes, I suspect some are impossible and/or too much work and/or might cause trouble elsewhere, but listing is free

These aren't (IIRC) fixed by any mods:
Multiclass Cleric-Rangers Receive HLAs at Incorrect Levels
Fake-Talk Exploit
Kit Abilities Restored When Character Rejoins the Party
Attribute Drains Can Cause Scores to 'Wrap Around' To Max Values
Bags of Holding Recharge Items
Spell Effects and Scripts Remain Active During Time Stop
Launchers That Do Not Require Ammo Damage Exploit

(Sort of) fixed, but in another mod:
Weapon Specialization Does Not Provide Extra Attacks for Non-Fighters (tb#tweaks)

Not from that page, but might help less attentive modders:
Cleric/Rangers aren't detected by CLERIC_ALL (fixable by manually checking for C/R when checking for C_A, but error prone).

Some things to look at, thanks.

EDIT: a tweak to allocate thieving skill points in increments of 5 at level up might be nice (especially when leveling up a lvl 25 thief 20 times in a row while testing).

Lol, you mean holding down the mouse button isn't good enough?

EDIT II (actually hampering Refinements and not just navel-gazing): AddKit() only saves the upper half of the dword, rather than the full dword (same issue as Kit()). As such, calling AddKit() on a Barbarian (and I assume on a Wild Mage) will write a nonsensical value for the kit.

Yep, definitely worth having a look at.

In a somewhat similar vein to " -Added: Disable Force Inventory Pause", I seem to recall that when looking at the minimap no auto-pause functions works. So if I send the party on a long stroll and watch the progress on the minimap, the first hint that enemies are nearby is that a random character is severely damaged. Could this be fixed (unless it's just my local behaviour)? Addendum; will autopause work if the aforementioned tweak is installed, and I'm browsing the inventory while enemies attack?

I haven't had a good look at the auto-pause code, so I don't know. I suspect that getting hit in the inventory will behave exactly like the minimap. Why don't you test it out?

In the BG2 you always get only 1 attack in a round with off-hand, even if you do 10 atackks in a round, but animations says that you do tham identically for both hands , so maeby it could be fixed
2 atacks 1/1, 3 2/1, 4 2/2... Additional atack effect on weapon grant attack with main hand whenever hand you used for weapon with this effect, can it be called bug?

That's an interesting one, sounds tricky. Is it the animation itself, or the attack rolls too. I may be able to correct for attack rolls, but not animation.

Is't possible to add compatibility with spell animations from pst? (with bigger resolution than bg2)

Someone will have to explain to me how these differ, since my PS:T copy sits somewhere in deep storage...

Here's a request: how about logging *something* every time the game crashes? Like the last few actions or dialogues/scripts triggered, the last few creatures visible, the area the party was in, even a forced screenshot might help.

This is extremely tricky for two main reasons.
1. Not all crashes occur via assertions. I can't catch any of these because TobEx isn't run in a separate thread except at startup when the EXE modifications are being made.
2. All assertion crashes crash call the same procedure. Therefore, I can't tell properly who called it (except manually opening the debugger) and the context of which the crash occurred. I'm not a screenshot helps either, because it doesn't tell you what happened. Stuff in the dialogue bar will get logged into TobEx_dlg.log.

The best I can do is log the error message from the assertions. For other crashes, people will have to report via the Windows crash dialog box.

I might add, that this will spare Miloch of asking each and everyone if logging On=1 has been added to the .ini

With TobEx, you do not need Logging On=1 set. Actually, if you have Logging On=1, you get the assertion error logged twice in TobEx.log. I'll re-iterate here that logging with TobEx.log will always occur in assertion failures (even when the game can't show them) and it gives an extra memory address that tells a debugger where the assertion was called in 'hex' code.

-----190 Critical Error Message Box Fix [F]
Fixes an issue where the critical error message box during a crash does not always display
This is because the window thread that the message box is sent to is suspended

Options:
-0: disabled
-1: enabled

-----500 Log Assertion Failures [D]
Logs assertion failures in the game to console and TobEx.log (with timestamp)
These are logged even when the game is unable to display them
Assertions will display a return address to facilitate debugging
Does not require "Logging On=1" in baldur.ini

Options:
-0: disabled
-1: enabled

Edited by Ascension64, 23 January 2011 - 10:17 PM.