I was wondering how far has the romance have to progress before i can go to Spellhold. I have heard that romance ends if you go there too soon.
I've have to ask this here because Black Wyrms Lair is what it is.

Posted 29 November 2010 - 12:09 PM
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Posted 29 November 2010 - 05:30 PM
I'm finally at chapter 3 (after six months) and i have Sime in my party. I'm going to romance her (i haven't tried before first TS install).
I was wondering how far has the romance have to progress before i can go to Spellhold. I have heard that romance ends if you go there too soon.
I've have to ask this here because Black Wyrms Lair is what it is.
Edited by Hoppy, 29 November 2010 - 05:32 PM.
Posted 29 November 2010 - 05:31 PM
Edited by Hoppy, 29 November 2010 - 05:32 PM.
Posted 29 November 2010 - 07:18 PM
Unfortunately i always do everything possible at chapter 2. As far as i know only SoS Soubar and Watcher's Keep level 2 onward are only thing left. I don't want to go Soubar until i get Selence to join and i have to visit Brynnlaw for Selence quest. Watcher's Keep from Level 2 onward i do at ToB.Well I can't give exact details like LoveTalks and all that but hopefully you have plenty to do before Spellhold so travel around and do some quests and let the lovetalks commence. I think the warning was more or less not to go to Spellhold shortly after she joins. Oh, I went to Spellhold after a special encounter* with her and all went well. Tee Hee
Edited by micbaldur, 29 November 2010 - 07:52 PM.
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Posted 29 November 2010 - 07:24 PM
Posted 29 November 2010 - 07:44 PM
I'm next going to do TS main quest before Brynnlaw. I've already started doing it until i remember that should have move much further in Sime romance before going to Brynnlaw (Kara-Tur). So i reloaded and start waiting romance progress. Unfortunately i don't nothing else to but sightseeing in Amn. Well such is life.Like I said, wait until her "little encounter" with the vampires and then Spellhold should be OK for you. She has extra banters in Kara Tur so you would need to follow the main TS storyline but I can't be positive if that is absolutely necessary for her romance
. Sime is Aran Linvail's daughter so it makes sense that she becomes available to help fight Bodhi and not before you meet Aran.
Edited by micbaldur, 29 November 2010 - 07:53 PM.
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Posted 30 November 2010 - 10:50 AM
I was wondering what happens to Sime Romance when i'm going to kick Kachiko and Yoshimo temporary from party at Brynnlaw because need to get some other NPCs from Athkatla to do some quest at Brynnlaw.
Posted 30 November 2010 - 11:19 AM
Ok i'm going leave Yoshimo and Kachiko in Caiya's house at Brynnlaw. Then i'm going to get Robillard (TDD) and Kim for their quests at Brynnlaw. After their quests are over i need to go to Spirit Soaring (RoT) with Drizzt and Alissa. Do i need any other RoT NPCs (Wulfgar,Bruenor,Regis). Also i end up to Brynnlaw after Spirit Soaring right of wrong? THen i pick up Yoshimo and Kachiko and enter the Spellhold.Nothing to her romance but K and Y's content will rely on them being in the party when you enter the asylum and confront Jon finally. There is no way around that if you want to break the curse and fulfill the TS romance between Yoshimo and Kachiko because they need to have that dialog with Jon. I mean, there's three party members right there so I don't know how much content you can give and take in the actual asylum once the dialog finishes and then the cutscenes and maze start.
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Posted 30 November 2010 - 05:25 PM
Ok i'm going leave Yoshimo and Kachiko in Caiya's house at Brynnlaw. Then i'm going to get Robillard (TDD) and Kim for their quests at Brynnlaw. After their quests are over i need to go to Spirit Soaring (RoT) with Drizzt and Alissa. Do i need any other RoT NPCs (Wulfgar,Bruenor,Regis). Also i end up to Brynnlaw after Spirit Soaring right of wrong? THen i pick up Yoshimo and Kachiko and enter the Spellhold.
Nothing to her romance but K and Y's content will rely on them being in the party when you enter the asylum and confront Jon finally. There is no way around that if you want to break the curse and fulfill the TS romance between Yoshimo and Kachiko because they need to have that dialog with Jon. I mean, there's three party members right there so I don't know how much content you can give and take in the actual asylum once the dialog finishes and then the cutscenes and maze start.
I hate this 6 party member limit. So many quests, romances and NPCs to fill the slots.
Posted 30 November 2010 - 07:30 PM
Oh i didn't know that Randall has a quest stuff in Brynnlaw naturally he's coming to Brynnlaw then. Thanks for info.Don't forget you need to fulfill Kova and Kiyone's Spellhold and Kiara Zaiya's Spellhold material
. Also Randall from RoT must finish his quest as it ends in Spellhold or are you going to blow him off? He is a nice guy you know and should be treated with fairness
Who else, let's see?
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Posted 07 December 2010 - 07:16 PM
I think that something went wrong with Yoshimo. Jon and Yoshimo talks about breaked curse and so on. Then the party is moved to Maze without Yoshimo? I don't know is this right but i played forward (Imoen joined). Then at Jon Irenicus encounter later Yoshimo comes after Jon teleports away. After short talks he attacks and i have to kill him (no Yoshimo's heart). Then Kachiko leaves.Nothing to her romance but K and Y's content will rely on them being in the party when you enter the asylum and confront Jon finally. There is no way around that if you want to break the curse and fulfill the TS romance between Yoshimo and Kachiko because they need to have that dialog with Jon. I mean, there's three party members right there so I don't know how much content you can give and take in the actual asylum once the dialog finishes and then the cutscenes and maze start.
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Posted 07 December 2010 - 11:46 PM
I think that something went wrong with Yoshimo. Jon and Yoshimo talks about breaked curse and so on. Then the party is moved to Maze without Yoshimo? I don't know is this right but i played forward (Imoen joined). Then at Jon Irenicus encounter later Yoshimo comes after Jon teleports away. After short talks he attacks and i have to kill him (no Yoshimo's heart). Then Kachiko leaves.
Nothing to her romance but K and Y's content will rely on them being in the party when you enter the asylum and confront Jon finally. There is no way around that if you want to break the curse and fulfill the TS romance between Yoshimo and Kachiko because they need to have that dialog with Jon. I mean, there's three party members right there so I don't know how much content you can give and take in the actual asylum once the dialog finishes and then the cutscenes and maze start.
I was wondering is there any quest or something like that conserning Yoshimo and Kachiko after Spellhold. If not then there's no need for them any more.
Other thing is Randall. Is there more to his quest other than this EPIC encounter with Marcus (by the way i had to CLUA:Console Marcus).
Edited by Hoppy, 07 December 2010 - 11:50 PM.
Posted 08 December 2010 - 12:54 PM
Ok it try it again. I load the game prior to talking Desharik and Spellhold entering. I report later.With Randall, who knows, you're probably the expert now. Did you follow the other parts of his quest first with the necromancer prior to Spellhold? That is necessary and it is more like background I guess.
With Yoshimo, things went very wrong and he does not leave regarding the TS romance, if he does leave then he is following the traitor path. I have not had any of these problems with getting that to work in TS-BP so it could be something local to your installation like Jon's dialog when he reveals himself got screwed up. I would reload from a previous point and see if you can duplicate the problem every time.
EDIT: Also it would have been very important to have Yoshimo and KAchiko in the party enough to have them fulfill their dialog requirements and lovetalks for their romance to progress. Those specifics I do not know.
Edited by micbaldur, 08 December 2010 - 10:01 PM.
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Posted 09 December 2010 - 10:03 AM
Update:
I tested this couple times. Everything seems to ok after first talks uptairs. Yoshimo says that he's not cursed anymore and Jon indicates that as well. After some more talks party is teleported to Cellar and CHARNAME into glasstube. 4 other party members are at nearby cell. Yoshimo is out of party and in the same room with Jon and CHARNAME. Talks with Jon and Yoshimo indicates that Yoshimo is now traitor and also cursed. After the normal talks party is teleported to Candlekeep Dream except Yoshimo.
Also Marcus doesn't spawn at Spellhold. I've had to CLUA:Console him again and then talks goes ok.
Posted 09 December 2010 - 11:13 AM
You could be right that "Super NPC Swithing" mess up variables. Thing went well at Kara-Tur as far as i know. Only thing i was wondering why Kachiko didn't comment his father's suicide after i resurrected her. Well i don't should she comment?The only thing I can say right now is that either the romance variables are messed up because of all the super NPC switching you do, or the cutscenes triggered from that dialog and the dialog itself may have been patched poorly.
There is no way I can look into this in detail to even believe something needs fixing with TS-BP. It is plausible that something is broke in the mod but I say again, I have not had the problems with this happening. It could also be related to their quest in Kara-Tur but I don't know anything offhand to trigger the actions you are getting.
One thing I will recommend is make sure that Yoshimo and Kachiko are in the vicinity when talking to Jon after the initial tour and his revealing. That may make a difference, I don't know.
Edited by micbaldur, 09 December 2010 - 11:14 AM.
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Edited by Izzy, 06 February 2011 - 07:29 PM.
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